Survey finds majority of Americans don't side with Apple

19. CoastCity (Posts: 257; Member since: 07 Mar 2014)

They did that already. I don't believe paid and fixed surveys. I am with Apple on this and it should hold by any lawful way its current stance. Sure, in the end they' ll reconcile. The government won't accept to look like it is in a weak position anymore. Hence the "independent surveys"

23. Finalflash (Posts: 3485; Member since: 23 Jul 2013)

It may not paid or anything sinister. It's just that people don't understand tech and what backdoors mean for encryption and security.

27. neops (Posts: 297; Member since: 28 Jan 2014)

I bet your flash, the one doesn't exclude the other

54. natypes (Posts: 1104; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)

So you just believe what you want no matter what? No surprise, that's how most people who side with apple think.

68. lyndon420 (Posts: 4952; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Believing what you want goes hand in hand with freedom. Are we to believe the government and FBI on everything they tell us? Like sheep or cattle being led to the slaughter house?

29. Good-Is-Better (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Nov 2015)

It's a good thing that the majority of Americans don't support terrorism. Supporting Apple is supporting terrorism. Lets see. If Apple wins this case, be sure get more terrorist operations. If those guys have been able to use the iphone to plan their terrorist acts without being caught and now they can't even be disclosed because of the so called protecting "encryption and security". I don't even understand this delima, keeping "encryption and security" to hide a terrorist and possibly his co terrorists that are still running around. This is something that one will take more than understanding to decipher.

34. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)

So that means whoever is supporting Apple, is supporting terrorism. They don't care about America or their siblings.

And the ones whose supporting Apple still hates terrorist. what BS. Hypocrite two faced double standards. Dumbass morons.

45. lyndon420 (Posts: 4952; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Yeah ok. You just keep living in that 'safe-little-bubble' that you think the government is providing you. But just think for a moment...if the government stopped terrorising us, how could they sway the public's opinion on justifying the amount they spend on war? The government is behind/funding terrorism (think 9/11 for an example) and the FBI already knows everything they need to know...except how to crack an iPhone. If you want to stop terrorism you need to stop giving into the government and make a stand for our rights and freedom's. I'll give you another example - If you're okay with the government peeking in your windows 'in-the-name-of-seeking-terrorists', then you should be fine if I peek in your windows to watch you sleep (and maybe even borrow your wife for a couple hours) - I'd make sure to bring her back to you with a bug smile on her face not to worry. :)

So...what's your address? Don't worry...I work for the government. ;)

50. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)

Lol that impact would cause Apple shares to decline. This company should not be around. It needs to be faded away, just like Nokia.

What's wrong with that? Let them spy. What have you got to hide.

58. SYSTEM_LORD (Posts: 1003; Member since: 05 Oct 2015)

Their traffic on pornographic websites. That's what most of these people are talking about. To be honest, I've had older people tell me that you shouldn't keep anything in a phone that you wouldn't feel safe leaving in the street. People need to stop trusting this tech anyways. Most of us on this site don't have anything anyone wants to see anyways...they just back this stuff because they want to seem as if they have something important to hide!

Keep your important information physical and on your person, for God's sake.

83. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

My phone is part physical and on my person.

Also permiting this backdoor would creat the way to have all electronic computers ect have similar backdoor.

And most backdoor can be opened by hackers.

105. xavysp (Posts: 4; Member since: 18 Feb 2016)

What you think in Liberty?

I bileive the communism comes to the USA people if FBI unlock iPhones

55. natypes (Posts: 1104; Member since: 02 Feb 2015)

go back to inforwars. I'm glad I don't have a mental illness.

69. lyndon420 (Posts: 4952; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Alex Jones is too full of himself...I'll pass thank-you. But I like your analogy though...me being a free thinker automatically means I have a mental illness lol. The government has you right where they want you...under their control. 'You can't really see anything unless you're willing to open your eyes'.

66. elitewolverine (Posts: 5192; Member since: 28 Oct 2013)

None of what you posted has anything to do with the question at hand. 0. How does catching a terrorist after they are dead and after their property is in evidence room equal to you f**king someones wife?

82. lyndon420 (Posts: 4952; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Let me say it another way then. If you give the FBI permission to look through your phone whenever they please, then you shouldn't have any problem with me looking through it as well. Not to worry....my only interest is acquiring your wife's phone number. I work for the government so that means you can trust me explicitly. :)

95. Good-Is-Better (Posts: 82; Member since: 12 Nov 2015)

You are mad. Haha, I would prefer you watch how I sleep with my wife so that you can do same to yours. But, having a night with her is just a terrorist act to our marriage. So, if the government seem to be more dangerous than the terrorists like you insinuate, why don't we do away with the government and stay like that. If you suspect that the government cannot be trusted what makes you think Apple should be trusted. They are keeping information that is helping to protect the terrorist. What does your law says about who ever fails to denounce a terrorist?

So, what's your suggestion? That Apple should bar the government and keep the terrorist information? What is the next victim is your lovely wife, son or daughter?
You must give away something to get another. As it stand now, either you keep your encryption and accept terrorist, or you give trust to your government and forget about freedom.

96. S.R.K. (banned) (Posts: 678; Member since: 11 Feb 2016)

Well said. That's what I said. +1

100. lyndon420 (Posts: 4952; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

Well if it bothers you it could be arranged so you don't need to know about it then, but I've always preferred the open and honest concept when it comes to wife swapping.

I wasn't trying to say that the government is more dangerous than the terrorists...the government is most likely behind most if not all terrorist activity. They've done a very good job of turning mankind against itself...this world is full of so much hate and greed it's sickening. I'd be up for doing away with our one centralized (all powerful) government so we can try to learn and govern ourselves. I've never said that apple can be trusted. I can't root for both them and the fbi at the same time on this matter, so my gut is telling me to fight for whatever rights we have left because at the rate we're giving them away there won't be anything left for our kids generations. Try to look at the big picture, and while you're at it try to come up with some valid reasons why these so called 'terrorists' are pissed off to begin with. My laws were written by greedy men of power that we appointed for some stupid reason.

My suggestion? Yes apple should bar the government from having unrestricted access to everyone's iPhone. McAfee offered to hack the phone in question for free which sounds perfectly rational and sensible to me, and the fbi's reluctance to take that offer sounds way too fishy to me. If something happened to my daughter or wife the situation I'm sure would have been handled alot differently...and they most likely wouldn't have suddenly needed access to everyone's phone. Hypothetical question: How would you and everyone else have reacted to this whole thing if (instead of terrorism) the headlines read: "Wife and Daughter Missing...FBI finds suspicious iphone at scene and now wants backdoor access to everyone's phone". Would you all just gleefully hand over your rights and freedoms in the hopes that my family is still alive?

101. lyndon420 (Posts: 4952; Member since: 11 Jul 2012)

You forgot to mention that you work for the government and that he should trust whatever you say...good luck getting his wife's number now you dumbass!!

40. shiftt (Posts: 333; Member since: 03 May 2015)

That's like saying the "BlackLivesMatter" movement is a "anti-white" movement. Neither of those are the case and you need to stop jumping to conclusions. There is a bigger picture beyond this case and the sooner you understand that, the better.

61. downphoenix (Posts: 3165; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)

No, allowing 4th amendment rights to be stripped is unamerican.

74. cripton805 (Posts: 1484; Member since: 18 Mar 2012)

The dumb award goes to this guy and everyone else that doesn't think the phone is a violation of privacy...

The 4th amendment states "Unreasonable search and seizure". This is beyond reasonable and everyone needs to STFU and let the FBI do their job and Apple needs to comply with a legal court order and be fined with contempt. Dumb asshats.

84. marorun (Posts: 5029; Member since: 30 Mar 2015)

Nope at max apple need to take the phone unload all its info on a usb stick and send it to the FBI.

Creating backdoor and custom ios to crack phone should NEVER be put into any governement hand.

Its been seen often in the past thats governement love to discredit ppl using various informations now just think what could happen if they can use this backdoor to push stuff on your phone..

Lets say lil child porn pictures by exemple.

A door can be used both way so lets not create one!
If you dont see the implication you are the Dumbass.

98. Plutonium239 (Posts: 1079; Member since: 17 Mar 2015)

Its not any more unreasonable than taking laptops/desktops/servers and breaking into them, its exactly the same principle.

71. Mxyzptlk (unregistered)

There's so much stupid leaking from this comment.

70. engineer-1701d (unregistered)

the phone has already been unlocked and .ost of the info taken a few things still need to be done.
and again pa stop saying the phone belonging to farook it was not his it was ca state public health office phone.

81. MSi_GS70 (unregistered)

oh god this is such circus .. komedian show... another tricks only just to gain /earn money nothing else... PATHETIC