Steve Jobs nailed it; desktop Flash will join mobile Flash to the grave in 2020

Steve Jobs nailed it; desktop Flash will join mobile Flash to the grave in 2020
Adobe today made an announcement that Steve Jobs predicted it would make over seven years ago. It was the beginning of 2010 and Jobs had just unveiled the first Apple iPad just days before. Hosting a Town Hall Q&A session in front of Apple employees, Jobs went after Adobe and Flash, calling the latter buggy (and a battery drain, he later wrote). He also made the prediction that no one will be using Flash in the future as HTML5 would replace it. At the time, updates were allowing various Android phones like the Motorola Droid and the Nexus One to support Flash animation. Android users who were at first thrilled with Flash, couldn't wait to disable it thanks to its penchant to lag.

Yesterday, Adobe announced that declining usage means that it will stop supporting Flash on desktops in 2020. Adobe says that in 2014, 80% of Chrome users visited a site using Flash daily. That figure declined to 17% this year. Security was the big issue afflicting Flash on the desktop, and Firefox stopped including Flash by default. Google stopped showing Flash based ads on Chrome, turning instead to HTML5. And hey, isn't that exactly what Steve Jobs predicted back in 2010?

It wasn't necessarily the bugs that kept Flash off of the iPhone. After all, Jobs saw that as a minor engineering issue. According to those in the know, Jobs was upset that Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen would not take Jobs' calls; this made the Apple CEO feel that Apple would not be able to get in touch with the software firm if a situation arose that required immediate communications between Apple and Adobe. However, an Apple software engineer revealed last year that Apple tested Flash on the iPhone back in 2008 and it obviously did not impress anyone at Apple.

Mobile Flash died in November 2011, and Adobe will stop supporting and distributing the Adobe Flash Player at the end of 2020. And as Jobs predicted all those years ago, HTML5 is the most popular replacement.

source: Adobe via Engadget

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39 Comments

1. blingblingthing

Posts: 979; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

Who predicted the death of the 3.5 inch screen on a flagship?

19. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

He just too lazy to fix it.. and rushed to end support to it.. flash still used by ~80% of chrome users on 2014, and just under 20% right now.. (sourcehttps://blog.chromium.org/2017/07/so-long-and-thanks-for-all-flash.html) It's dying right now.. Not when Steve drop flash back in 2010.. but, It's news just because it's Apple.. next decade they'll write "Apple was right, disk-drive is obselete" or "Apple was right.. 3.5mm has no future" or "Apple was right, AMOLED is the future"

43. ahmuzencab

Posts: 192; Member since: May 12, 2017

Flash is complete crap. There is a plethora of content to educate ourselves on why it is such junk.

46. roscuthiii

Posts: 2383; Member since: Jul 18, 2010

So are cobblestone roads. Point is, at the time, it was the winning all-around solution.

47. ahmuzencab

Posts: 192; Member since: May 12, 2017

I like your response

2. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

People, such as Elon Musk, might call him a jerk, but the man was definitely a genius. Even in his predictions. Huge respect for him for visioning a pinnacle of technology which the iPhone is.

4. blingblingthing

Posts: 979; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

Visionary? Sure, great work bringing the iPhone, iPod and iPad; but, they all would have died if he was still around. The reason iPhones have advanced this much is because Tim cook is keeping up with the competition. Under jobs, they we're sticking to their guns.

8. medtxa

Posts: 1655; Member since: Jun 02, 2014

Yeah imagine jobs presentation with new big screen iphone.

30. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Why do you guys always act so sure about the unknown. There's a reason the fate of Apple is unknown and it's that we don't know what would've happened if Steve Jobs was still the CEO. Besides, you guys are questioning the skills of Steve Jobs, not some run of the mill university graduate who started his own business. Atleast try to make sense instead of bluntly stating Apple would've been a thing of the past under him......

5. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"but the man was definitely a genius. Even in his predictions." Yeah... the "none is going to buy a big phone" was definitely a genius one!!! LMFAO

6. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"but the man was definitely a genius. Even in his predictions." The "none is going to buy a big phone" was definitely not a genius one... Same applies to the stylus, brosephine.

23. Spyro

Posts: 334; Member since: Mar 29, 2017

It was a different era at the time dude and a 3.5" screen was considered "big" at the time. Unfortunately, with the rising competition, Apple had no choice but to make a bigger iPhone with a sh*tty thin-obsessed design. The stylus though was on point. Nobody needs a stylus for a phone.

29. AxelFoley unregistered

"It was a different era. " That's basically how predictions work. Predicting newer technology will usurp old technology isn't exactly genius. I predict the A12 processor will one day replace the A11. Call me Einstein. I'm sure we'll see how many nobodies there are in a few weeks. If larger phones are taking the place of tablets, then that means nobody needs a stylus for a tablet either. Or, maybe it would be wise if I just spoke for myself and not declare what "nobody" needs on everybody's behalf.

45. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

"Nobody needs a stylus for a phone." Who said he was just referring to phones? http://sck.pm/mBI Also, during the iPhone event, his excuses for ditching stylus were: "You have to get them, put them away, you loose them. Yuck! Nobody wants a stylus." Last time I checked, the same thing still applies to the apple pencil today. He may have been right about some things, but he was also shortsighted and dead wrong about the stylus, big screen Smartphones, 7" Tablets, and many other things. He's just another human being after all.

13. TerryD

Posts: 559; Member since: May 09, 2017

I'm sorry but predicting that flash will no longer be used isnt exactly genius level thinking. Old technology gets surpassed. Did Jobs predict the death of Silverlight too or did he miss that one?

3. blingblingthing

Posts: 979; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

What about these newer 4.7 and 5.5 inch screens? Aren't those something he was wrong about? What about him on styluses? What about the Android is a stolen product, yet compare iOS 10 to ginger bread and iOS 6 and tell me who is stolen

24. Spyro

Posts: 334; Member since: Mar 29, 2017

Using stylus on a phone in 2017? How counter-intuitive!

37. blingblingthing

Posts: 979; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

Using a 3.5" screen flagship in 2017… how primitive!

7. HillaryClinton2020

Posts: 191; Member since: Feb 08, 2017

Buuthurt gonna butthurt, google also klled flash and yet they silent, follower gonna follow, copier gonna copy, case close

11. SIGPRO

Posts: 2817; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

HillaryClinton2020, aka Vincent Liu, aka Snakeboy.....follower gonna follow, copier gonna copy, case close.........this is exactly apple. But iSheep like you could never understand hahahahah!

15. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

aka LeSerpent Vincent.

16. SIGPRO

Posts: 2817; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Ah yes you are right!

9. Rock_Hardwood

Posts: 117; Member since: May 11, 2015

so petty jobs forced us to do without flash or find workarounds for years and years, that is one thing i hate about him. I still use puffin browser to watch flash sites.

10. SIGPRO

Posts: 2817; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Steve Jobs was an idiot! Nothing more nothing less!

12. miketer

Posts: 535; Member since: Apr 02, 2015

An idiot, he was not, for sure

17. SIGPRO

Posts: 2817; Member since: Oct 03, 2012

Steve was arrogant, and a dictator..... so in my eyes a big IDIOT!

14. TerryD

Posts: 559; Member since: May 09, 2017

Dunno about that but he was an arrogant ****

22. cmdacos

Posts: 4302; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Ten years later? Jobs has zero influence on the death of flash. It's evolution.

25. Spyro

Posts: 334; Member since: Mar 29, 2017

He made a prediction, stop acting butthurt.

26. cmdacos

Posts: 4302; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Awwww you crying that your Lord and savior didn't influence enough to kill Flash?

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