Snapdragon 865 vs 855, Аpple A13 and Exynos 990: what's in it for Galaxy S11?

Snapdragon 865 vs 855, Аpple A13 and Exynos 990: what's in it for Galaxy S11?
Samsung's processor foundries missed one production cycle of the flagship Snapdragon 8-series processor but their new and superior extreme ultraviolet (EUV) lithography has won the hearts of Qualcomm's management for Snapdragon 865.

Qualcomm just detailed its next high-end chipset during its annual event in Hawaii, and, together with Samsung's newest kid on the block, the Exynos 990, there is every chance that those two top-shelf processors will end up powering Samsung's high-end Galaxy S11 series in the spring.

As if to corroborate that notion, the Snapdragon 865 specs that Qualcomm just released to us, tip performance gains in comparison with Snapdragon 855+ that are commensurate with the move from the first generation of the 7nm process to Samsung's second-gen lithography that Apple's processor maker TSMC, for instance, is yet to master.

The Galaxy S11 will eventually thus have a chipset that is about 25% faster than the fastest Android chips at the moment, with the corresponding graphics subsystem gains. The big bump, however, is in the value-added features like multi-mode 5G, high-res camera support, or up to 144Hz display refresh rates. Here is a quick comparison table with all the known Snapdragon 865 features against the Exynos 990 and some other notables.

 

Snapdragon 865 and 855+ vs Exynos 990 vs Apple A13 specs comparison


We are comparing Galaxy S11's Snapdragon 865 and Exynos 990 specs and features below for your viewing pleasure. For reference, we include the current Snapdragon 855+ and Apple A13 kings of the mobile processing hill.


While a 25% performance gain is nothing to sniff at when compared to Snapdragon 855, the added value of today's chipsets are not the clock speeds - they are high enough as it is - but rather the accompanying features and especially the modem integration. Qualcomm's X55 modem supports anything from 5G down to 2G, but it is seemingly still an add-on rather than an integrated affair. 

Based on the Snapdragon 865 and Exynos 990 specs alone, we can deduce that, yes, the Galaxy S11 might sport a 108MP camera indeed, have fast DDR5 memory, and a display refresh rate of at least 120Hz.

Moreover, Samsung's finest for the spring season would be capable of smooth 8K video recording, and up to 7.5Gbps download speeds on mmWave networks like Verizon's 5G. All specs that you don't even have on your high-end laptop at home, and sound pretty crazy to have in your phone, but may very well become reality before February has rolled out in earnest.

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19 Comments

1. User123456789

Posts: 1172; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

The isheeps will justify by using the fact iOS allows A13 to achieve higher benchmark. Benchmark is useless. GPU is more important. Resilution of screen and camera setup support is more important Video recording is more important

2. sgodsell

Posts: 7592; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Why no mention of the new 15 trillion operations per second for the new AI processor on board the Snapdragon 865? That's way faster than anything Apple has in terms of an AI offering. Yet you guys list Apples much slower speed.

6. mackan84

Posts: 633; Member since: Feb 13, 2014

You guys always forget to ask yourself What will 8K recording do for me? What does this ultrafast chipset give me that I don’t already have? We’re at a time that benchmarks and speeds doesn’t matter, unless they give us something useful that I can’t do on my 5 year old smartphone. The only upside is better battery-life but most have realized that a thicker phone does that better. “ Resolution of screen is more important”. Well haven’t this been debunked yet? People buys lcd iphones in droves and most android-users never touch their resolution settings and let it stay at its lower setting. Y’all just want to pick a debate on some future tech we don’t even know if it will change anything. Doesn’t it get boring?

12. vgking9699

Posts: 217; Member since: Mar 01, 2019

8k will allow you to more easily fill up the storage and give you pleasure of buying more and larger sd cards if they even get the option to take them anymore, unlikely since the 5g models of the s10 and note 10 and even the $2000 galaxy fold doesn’t have sd card support lol 8k will also for those tiny tiny time limits for video recording androids have been famous for with 4K lol And to be downscaled to like 320x480 when sent through a text message lol, compared to iMessage videos that look pretty much the same as the original video taken from the senders phone

13. vincelongman

Posts: 5753; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Lol this table has so many errors: -865 is N7P, not 7LPP -All those have add-on external modems, except the 855 -Doesn't list the TOPs for the NPUs/DSPs, only for Apple's CPU cores -The 855/865 also support UFS 3.0 -All support computational photography. Computational photography is not new. The SD 800 on the Nexus 5 supported computational photography lol -Misses the unqiue features of the 865 like: Dolby Vision, SPU, dual iSIM, ...

14. whatev

Posts: 2414; Member since: Oct 28, 2015

Take a look at gary explains and speed test g YouTube channels, swallow your words and close the door silently while you leave sweetie, don’t ever write a huge nonsense like the one above, remember you can’t delete posts on PhoneArena ;)

18. Monkeymagicboy

Posts: 2; Member since: Dec 07, 2019

Okay... 855+ real life... Runs circles round the A13 iphone 111 pro max. 865 is by far better that A13. Latency. Ram clock speeds. Lpddr5x 5500 mhz A13 is not as good as most people think it is... anandtech.com/show/14892/the-apple-iphone-11-pro-a​nd-max-review/2 the link shows a highly detailed screening of the A13. From latency speeds and beyond... Its all hype. Iphone 11 pro max for pubg is crap. 25%batter life gone in 40 mins. Could cook food on the iPhone 11 pro max. Very hot. 855+ Better for gaming. With 90hz screen. Look at YouTube comparisons. Realme x2 pro runs circles round iPhone 11 pro max.

3. tbreezy

Posts: 181; Member since: Aug 11, 2019

Still 7nm, interesting.

4. User123456789

Posts: 1172; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

They chose Samsung over TSMC. But they will undo mistake next year with 875.

7. WPX00

Posts: 512; Member since: Aug 15, 2015

Unlikely. TSMC is a 5nm leader, and will likely make it to market first, able to support the larger volumes that a flagship 8-series chip needs.

15. tbreezy

Posts: 181; Member since: Aug 11, 2019

Indeed. My next phone should be 5nm not this old 7nm that they have been prodding and adjusting for the last 2 years now. When the 2020 iPhone Pros arrive I bet they will be on 5nm.

16. extraterestial

Posts: 14; Member since: Nov 08, 2019

lol they didn´t make their 7nm EUV fully operational and you are talking about 5nm already. Dream on.

10. vincelongman

Posts: 5753; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Actually the 865 is N7P, like the A13 Seems like TSMC don't have enough EUV capacity for Qualcomm yet

9. Shubham412302

Posts: 592; Member since: Nov 09, 2011

Intel: still 14nm

5. User123456789

Posts: 1172; Member since: Feb 22, 2019

Specifically, the Snapdragon 865 can handle up to two gigapixels of data per second, thanks in part to its dual 14-bit ISPs. This means that the Snapdragon 865 will be able to handle captures of up to 200 megapixels as well as dual megapixel camera shots with zero shutter delay and HEIC photo capture. It can also apply real-time multi-frame noise reduction, as well as provide real-time object sorting, segmentation, and replacement in images, thanks to its fifth-generation Qualcomm AI Engine. This new technology will 'quickly and intelligently identify different backgrounds, people and objects so that they can be individually treated for a truly personalized photo,' according to Qualcomm.   The Snapdragon 865 chipset is also a big boost for mobile video. In addition to 8K video capture, the chipset also supports 4K HDR (HDR10 +, HDR10, HLG and Dolby Vision), 120fps 4K video and 4K video capture, while simultaneously capturing a 640 megapixel five-shot sequence. This makes it the first chipset to capture Dobly Vision video in real time, and in addition to capturing video at 120fps, the chipset can also play video at 120fps in real time when combined with a 120Hz display, such as those found on Razer Phone, Razer Phone 2, Sharp Aquos R3 Smartphones and Asus ROG Phone II.   Qualcomm also addressed high speed capture. Snapdragon 865 can capture 720p video at 960fps without limits. 720p video at 960fps is not new, as the Sony Xperia XZ and more than a dozen other smartphones from Sony, Samsung, Huawei, Sony and Xiaomi can attest, but today's devices are limited to capturing just a few seconds at a time. When paired with the proper hardware, the Snapdragon 865 chipset can record 960fps videos indefinitely; or at least until it runs out of storage.

8. DBozz

Posts: 119; Member since: Sep 19, 2019

Good promotion for 865! Last time i wrote long lines like that was several years ago on my thesis about why my gf shouldn't breakup with me.

11. IT-Engineer

Posts: 579; Member since: Feb 26, 2015

What??

17. tedkord

Posts: 17469; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

How did you stretch, "Because I don't want to die alone," into that many lines?

19. Monkeymagicboy

Posts: 2; Member since: Dec 07, 2019

The A13 looks good at benchmarks. But that's all. 865 is actually a much better processor. Way better. The previous benchmark by benchgeeks was produced from a reference device. Wait until it is in a commercial device.

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