Samsung's Exynos 8 Octa 8890 chipset now official: 14nm FinFET, 64-bit custom-core powerhouse


The majority of rumors and we leaks regarding the Samsung Exynos 8 Octa 8890 that hit us during the past few weeks or so made us quite impatient to see if the speculations were true. Given that the Exynos 7 Octa 7420 is a spectacular chip that truly helped the Galaxy S6, S6 edge, and Note 5 be the top dogs they are, we were quite impatient to see how Samsung will continue the development of its chipset line. Well, the time has come, as Samsung officially announced the Exynos 8 Octa 8890 chipset.

Similar to the Exynos 7 Octa 7420, the new chipset is an 64-bit octa-core silicon that is built on a 14nm FinFET manufacturing process (no word whether it's Low Power Eearly or Low Power Plus, though). So far, so good, but what's really interesting about this new chip in particular is that it is the first one to come with custom-made CPU cores, four of them to be exact. Initially known as Mongoose or M1, these are based on the 64-bit ARMv8 architecture. The other four cores are Cortex-A53 ones. The two clusters work flawlessly in concert thanks to enhanced big.LITTLE heterogeneous multi-processing.

So, what's the benefit of having four Cortex-A53 cores and four custom ones? It seems that it's a big deal, as Samsung claims the Exynos 8 Octa 8890 boasts 30% better performance than the Exynos 7 Octa 7420, while being 10% more power-efficient at the same time. That seems like a "win-win" outcome, no matter how you view it.


Apart from the custom cores, the Exynos 8 Octa 8890 is also Samsung's first high-end one-chip silicon that combines the processor and the modem in a single package. True, we've seen such Samsung-made chipset in the past, but these were mostly mid-range ones. Back on the Exynos 8890: the new powerhouse comes with an LTE Rel.12 Cat.12/13 modem, which is unlocking the possibility for blazing-fast bandwidth. How fast exactly? Samsung says that download speed of up to 600Mbps and upload speed of up to 150Mbps are possible with its new in-house chip. Impressive, right?

As far as graphics are concerned, the Exynos 8890 doesn't bring a knife to a gunfight, either. With a top-end ARM Mali-T880 MP12 GPU on board, the chipset will most likely fare extremely well in the graphics-crunching department.

Samsung says that the Exynos 8 Octa 8890 is about to enter mass production in late 2015, but if some of the recent rumors are to be believed, it has already started the production of its new high-end silicon. We expect to see the new Exynos in half of all Galaxy S7 units Samsung churns out next year, but we shouldn't rule out the possibility that it could also end up in the Galaxy Note 6 later in 2016. Sure, Samsung can put the chip in other high-end smartphones in-between, too.


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77 Comments

75. brasstax

Posts: 546; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Maybe i'm just dumb but i have always wondered about the logic behind using 2 different CPUs for the same phone split between geographical zones. Why not just go with the one cpu? The s6 and Note 5 did not do too badly with just the one cpu for the globe. And what's the deal with exynos for asia and snapdragon for the western world? Excuse my punctuation, but i am typing this with one finger. Fractured my left hand and 3 fingers on my right.. hehe

76. Clars123

Posts: 1082; Member since: Mar 16, 2015

its difficult to manufacture the same chip at a substantial rate for the entire world

77. Clars123

Posts: 1082; Member since: Mar 16, 2015

since Samsung is also manufacturing the 820 there wont be enough room to manufacture its own 8890 at a quick enough pace...plus there's the fact that different zones have different types of networks

52. darkkjedii

Posts: 31798; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Should be in my next phones, the Note 6. 128 gig, with IR blaster hopefully.

57. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

I think this one should go in S7 and something new for note 6. As they did till now for previous S and note series. For note the S2 CPU was clocked higher, SIII and note 2 were same, new GPU and higher clocked CPU for note 3 compared to S4, note 4 was big improvement over S5 (new CPU cores A57 and A53, new GPU). I only considered exynos models.

38. phonearenarocks

Posts: 607; Member since: Mar 26, 2015

One word - Disappointed.

35. phonehome

Posts: 812; Member since: Dec 19, 2014

How fast do processors really need to be on a consumer device? Really wish all this effort was put into condensing battery capacity (as well as cancer racket...err...research).

42. tedkord

Posts: 17520; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Each new generation of SOC is more power efficient, along with the display, modem, ram, etc...

33. AZNHA unregistered

2016 gonna be interesting with this exynos 8890 and snapdragon 820 and also kirin 950 , not to forget helio x30 :)

32. plasteek

Posts: 265; Member since: Jun 07, 2015

Wow Adreno 530/Mali mp12 for lagfree UI and games please...

29. vuyonc

Posts: 1094; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Dang it, Samsung hasn't disclosed the number of GPU clusters >:(

30. vuyonc

Posts: 1094; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Edit: never mind.

26. sceamgid

Posts: 25; Member since: Nov 12, 2015

browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/search?q=Xiaomi​+gemini i guess sd820 will beat 8890 at single core score but 8890(and kirin 950 too) manages to beat at multicore due to 8 cores. whatever 2150 is really good score. but if it's really 12 cores of mali t880 , it can manage to beat adreno 530...

28. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

That gemini is Mi5 isnt it??

34. sceamgid

Posts: 25; Member since: Nov 12, 2015

yes it is

51. FluffyBled unregistered

Well I have to disagree, since single core performance of Android smartphones has been long criticized, I am expecting the Exynos to score around 2300 single core (It's been rumours for that iirc).

64. Techist

Posts: 311; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

Leaks of the 8890 have it attaining 2,294 (single-core) and 6,908 (multi-core) so it beats the 820 and Kirin 950 on both scores and beats the A9 and A9X on multi-core. The 8890 is looking like another excellent chip from Samsung. http://www.sammobile.com/2015/10/06/samsungs-mongoose-soc-benchmarks-leak-shows-incredible-performance/

20. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Is that 14 nm LPP ??

25. galanoth

Posts: 428; Member since: Nov 26, 2011

It has to be. Samsung always saves the best tech for their own devices.

53. Brewski

Posts: 739; Member since: Jun 05, 2012

Why do these mobile chipset manufacturers keep making thier CPUs 64-bit and then only put in 2-3 GBs of RAM? What is the thinking there? Either take advantage of the extra capacity and put more RAM in or stay with 32-bit.

63. ph00ny

Posts: 2082; Member since: May 26, 2011

See Note5 4GBs of RAM

67. Ruturaj

Posts: 1484; Member since: Oct 16, 2014

Do you think 64 bit computing exists solely to overcome 4gb RAM barrier?

16. Tsepz_GP

Posts: 1227; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

18. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

Wait, l can't find Vulkan in the API support.

24. TyrionLannister unregistered

Don't worry, even the 2015 GPUs will support vulkan.

27. vincelongman

Posts: 5826; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Yep, any GPU that supports OpenGL ES 3.1 can support vulkan Meaning even some phones from 2012 could support vulkan But vulkan requires an update and Qualcomm was didn't start supporting 3.1 until the 805 So probably late 2014 phones and newer will get vulkan

31. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

How can we get that vulkan api , its a an update or a drivers ?

37. vincelongman

Posts: 5826; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

The vulkan spec isn't finalised yet It should be here at the end of the year Its probably going involve both an OS update (most likely Android N) and new drivers/firmware

14. carlemillward unregistered

Would be interesting to see S7 Snapdragon 820 Vs S7 Exynos 8890 Vs S7 7420.

41. almostdone

Posts: 452; Member since: Sep 25, 2012

They will probably lower the clock speeds on either to make them have similar performance. I doubt they want their customers to feel robbed one way or the other depending on which chip is inside.

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