Samsung in 'final stages' with a 64-bit Exynos processor, prime candidate for the Galaxy S5
posted by Daniel P. / Sep 23, 2013, 3:48 AM
After it became clear that Samsung is still producing the A7, and the Koreans chimed in they are all for doubling the mobile chipset bits, it was a matter of time before we learn such an Exynos is indeed in the pipeline, and we might see it in the next flagship, the Galaxy S5. This chip is meant for smartphones as well as tablets, said the Samsung source, cited by the publication.
The 64-bit architecture has its advantages before the 32-bit, and these are not only the much higher amount of addressable RAM it allows, but also multitasking and overall productivity shenanigans. Its power will really shine when software gets written from the ground up to take advantage, and what better way to push developers than actually have flagship phones and tablets with the tech already on the market.
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A53 and A57 architecture on 14nm... Holy hell this chip going to FLY.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 3:52 AM 21
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-_- What are you planning? running a server from your phone? i think that has already be done with old galaxy nexus. this is overkill to max. had you mentioned the battery saving, it wouldnt have been as ridiculous
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 4:39 AM 3
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Android is 64bit long time ago http://www.slashgear.com/andro
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 9:17 AM 0
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Well 64bit supports up to 16.8 terabytes of ram so we are not going to see anything higher anytime soon. Windows itself is only programmed to support up to 192GB and even that is more than what 99.99999999% of the population will ever need anytime soon.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 7:59 AM 0
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it will be 14nm, in 1 to 2 years (at best)... it will be at 20nm around 2H 2014
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 4:49 AM 2
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I don't like when Apple integrate a feature all other manufacturers just jump and follow them like a fly making newbies think Apple is always innovating. Why don't they have the damn idea to add those things before Apple ? And the funny part is that 64 bit calculation is far more useful on Android than on the very basic and simple iOS.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 3:55 AM 6
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The branding on the first 64-bit smartphone processor is Samsung and not Apple, the iPhone merely got the chip earlier, but Sammy's been working on a 64bit SoC for Android for quite some time. It just debuts with A53/A57, which is why it's next year.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 4:05 AM 10
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So you say that it is because the iPhone is out just at the right moment ? But the same thing goes for fingerprint scanner, and the dual LED with 'fixed tones'. Watch how in the next month every new phone will have at least one of those two features. Motorola had a fingerprint scanner but it didn't sell. I think that the manufacturers are waiting on Apple's marketing to promote what they want to put in their own phones later, and this is bad as we always have to wait on next damn iPhone most of the time to have serious new trends. They could do it without Apple (eg: Nokia with the 808), but they are lazy.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 4:13 AM 4
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I agree with _Bone_, ARM already announce their 64-bit A57/53, and since Samsung used big.LITTLE with A15/A7 it was obvious that Samsung would use 64-bit A57/53 sooner or later. Also Apple weren't the first with a 64-bit CPU, it was the Huawei Ascend D Quad with their K3V2 CPU. There were various other phones with fingerprint readers before Motorola (2011) as well. For example the Acer Tempo M900 (2009) LG Expo (2010), Toshiba Portégé G500 (2010).
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 4:32 AM 10
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I'm looking at the teardown, and it clearly shows Apple. Samsung couldn't brand the A7 and sell it, because they lack the Architecture license for custom ARM. I know ig hurts your little fanboy feelers, but its time to accept that Apple's processor design team is ahead of Samsung on the curve. Samsung will keep fabbing stock ARM designs for themselves while fabbing advanced custom ARM dilicon for Apple.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 6:15 AM 0
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Apple designed the Cyclone core in the A7 which happens to be built around the ARMv8 architecture. Samsung just provided their production resources to manufacture these socs in bulk. Apple gets full credit for being the leader.
posted on Sep 26, 2013, 10:24 AM 0
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That’s why nothing special about Samsung as usual.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 4:17 AM 0
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He's right though, what are you advocating? Companies like MediaTek making 8-core CPUs, each with low-quality processing and energy conservation, coupled with the fact that the vast majorities of applications only utilize up to 2 cores. Let's face it, these big companies like Samsung/Qualcomm have the resources and the money to employ the best engineers to make the most cutting-edge technology a reality.
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 4:53 AM 3
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Problems are still energy efficiency and software optimization, I still don't think 64bit is good for mobile phone right now, it's good for marketing though ...
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 3:56 AM 1
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Agree. An upgrade in Cortex architecture amounts to enormous performance and efficiency improvement with or without 64bit. I just have not read anywhere how 64bit is an advantage unless you have more than 4GB of working memory to utilize. The Note 3 tops the list at 3GB and I really can't see dedicated graphics memory added to a phone for a while, so what is the point of 64bit until phones contain the other hardware necessary to take advantage of it?
posted on Sep 23, 2013, 7:09 PM 0
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