Samsung promises "64-bit functionality" in next smartphones, because it can't let Apple have anything "special"

Samsung promises "64-bit functionality" in next smartphones, because it can't let Apple have anything "special"
That's right folks, we're back in the day care play area and Samsung is jealous of Apple's new 64-bit toy. Samsung apparently doesn't care much that 64-bit processing won't really help Apple all that much in the near future, nor that 64-bit support will be completely useless on an Android device (unless Android 4.4 KitKat is bringing 64-bit support.) 

Samsung has promised that its next smartphones will have "64-bit processing functionality", which of course means nothing right now. As we mentioned before, 64-bit on a mobile device doesn't mean anything unless devices get past the 4GB of RAM plateau, or the software is optimized properly. Right now, the Android system is not optimized, nor are the apps. At least Apple has updated iOS 7 for 64-bit support, even if app developers likely haven't yet, but Samsung wants to add the feature to its marketing plan without bothering to wait for Google to get the system ready, meaning the term will mean even less than it does for the new iPhone. 

As we said, it is possible that Google is going to introduce 64-bit support in Android 4.4 KitKat. It is most likely to be included if Google adds in the rumored optimizations to allow for Android to run on laptops. But, if those optimizations don't happen this time around, it is highly unlikely that Google will bother to add support. Samsung could add in some optimizations itself, but without system-level optimization, it likely won't mean much. Of course, like Apple, Samsung would be doing this for marketing rather than actual performance benefits right now. 

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143 Comments

143. cj100570

Posts: 204; Member since: May 12, 2009

It's truly sad when supposed journalists allow their bias to write stories. Just a quick FYI.... Samsung discussed using 64-bit processors in their devices as early as last year. As ARM is the architect of the chips that Samsung, Apple, etc. use they had to wait on arm to institute it in its chips. And lets not forget that Samsung produces the A7 chip in the iPhone. But who needs facts when you have a click bait headline....http://samsung-updates.com/news-samsung-talks-about-new-exynos-quad-core-mobile-cpu-at-isscc-2012/

142. sarge77

Posts: 202; Member since: Mar 14, 2013

Samsung didnt copy anything they made the chip apple so its goin to happen its a shame that apple didnt take advantage of the 64bit using beyond 4g of ram is awesome the only problem is limited space will come into play soon are we going to walk around with a portable drive as well.

139. ilani

Posts: 90; Member since: Dec 23, 2011

its not about copying! its about buzz words! Apple has an extra buzz word on their product now! no one really cares what it is! just that 64 is bigger than 32! this could mean selling more products, of course samsung is gonna do it too!

124. 0kax0el0

Posts: 238; Member since: Nov 15, 2012

Have anybody read the source article? It doesn't say it was announced, it was commented in an executives meeting. Shin was asked by the chiefs about 64bit processors in their phones. “Not in the shortest time. But yes, our next smartphones will have 64-bit processing functionality,” That sounds like "it's not our focus, but yes, we can do it too". Still, the most importan aspect about processors is the number of instructions per second ther're capable of. 64bits processors aside from an easier access to bigger ram memory, gives you more precision on bit operations. So, is anyone using an iPhone o Galaxy as a database server or molecule simulation?

122. Darkerm

Posts: 322; Member since: Jan 31, 2012

Am I the only one who dosn't care about what Apple or Samsung do but only care about 64 Bit so we can run Android in our PC?

123. Ninetysix

Posts: 2967; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

115. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

And the fanboys including this writer of course jump to the copying bandwagon. What they obviously missed while back was arm already have a 64bit architecture and said it will be on phones in 2014 so the fact Samsung is saying they will have a phone with a 64bit CPU isn't news because as arm who has a very close relationship with Samsung pretty much said this was going to happen but I let uninformed people believe what makes you happy.

114. Quezdagreat

Posts: 428; Member since: Apr 05, 2012

Samsung does it again with their me too approach. this is my second time saying this bt the galaxy s5 will have a fingerprint scanner. "if apple has it why shouldn't we have it" smh

110. RomeoJDR

Posts: 245; Member since: Dec 09, 2011

What a rare failure by Samsung's marketing department. The author is right about there being no advantage of 64-bit running on a system with well less than the 32-bit's 4GB virtual memory cap. Plus I'm wondering the impact this will have on the iPhone usable storage since this will require more ROM space dedicated to the OS. It may be a huge issue in the 16GB version. Why Samsung is only adding fuel to the fire instead of exposing the 64-bit as simply useless hot air is beyond me? Apple touting the 64-bit in a phone as being ahead of its time is correct, unfortunately that means it offers no utility when the rest of the phone lags behind.

117. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

The note 3 has 3gb ram so don't be surprised if the note 4 next year comes with a 4gb ram and then the 64bit CPU makes sense. Arm said a while back that they have the 64bit architecture and phones in 2014 will use it so this is no surprise.

130. RomeoJDR

Posts: 245; Member since: Dec 09, 2011

4GB is the limit, so unless it has dedicated graphics memory as well it will still be a waste of space.

133. taz89

Posts: 2014; Member since: May 03, 2011

I'll be honest really dont know too much about 32/64bits but read somewhere that to get any real use out of 64bit you need 4gb ram or more and something about 4gb ram being the limit for 32bit. Could be wrong though as I said don't know much.

109. xtian1103

Posts: 364; Member since: Feb 11, 2012

the real question is "what took samsung so long to follow apple?" it has been a day since the announcement. c'mon samsung fire your spies!

96. Altair

Posts: 367; Member since: Feb 02, 2012

Poor Samsung has to once again copy its superiors. Thats what it has been doing all day long since 2007. Shamesung the grand thief after Google.

93. thedarkside

Posts: 654; Member since: Apr 30, 2012

does anyone know that Samsung is the maker of the A7 chip in the new iphones? if Samsung would release the 64bit chip in the phones, it woluld make everything better for the phones that are in actual HD. I don't see how it will fit on a phone that doesn't even have 720p.

95. Ninetysix

Posts: 2967; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Samsung also used chips by Qualcomm on most of their phones. What's your point?

140. TheM16

Posts: 80; Member since: Aug 14, 2013

Wrong again dude... The Taiwanese company "TSMC" is making the A7 chip not your "Samsung" anymore. And it will make the A8,A9 and A9X... Wake up Samsung fans!

90. Ninetysix

Posts: 2967; Member since: Oct 08, 2012

Useless without Google optimizing the code/apis for 64bit. It's already in iOS7 and more on the way. Good luck with your 64bit smartphones with no optimization for it.

83. Googler

Posts: 813; Member since: Jun 10, 2013

Let it go SS, you don't need to do this. When phones are ready for 64 bit architecture, release it and do well. Don't release it just because someone else is trying to get a 5 minute spotlight.

88. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

"When phones are ready for 64 bit architecture..." How to understand that smartphones are ready for 64-bit ?

105. Googler

Posts: 813; Member since: Jun 10, 2013

For starters, when RAM has reached a point to warrant it. Right now it's not needed, and probably won't for a few more years.

113. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

And when in your opinion as you say RAM will reached a point to warrant it?

82. amats69

Posts: 1527; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

Poor samsung! A secret fan of apple. Lol

80. FanDroid

Posts: 5; Member since: Oct 28, 2012

No iPu$$y user will benifit from 64-bit untill decades later cuz dat's when apple will add 4GB or more RAM to their phones. For SS maybe nxt yr 4 s5 or note 4 or s6...

63. SonyPS4

Posts: 347; Member since: May 21, 2013

But Samsung fan said this is another gimmick by Apple.

58. PhoneArenaUser

Posts: 5498; Member since: Aug 05, 2011

64-bit was before Apple started to use it in iPhone, so Samsung doesn't copy Apple. "...Samsung is jealous of Apple's new 64-bit toy." I don't think that Samsung is jelous, it is more like what was said in the article titles: "...because it can't let Apple have anything "special""

49. jad.boutary

Posts: 107; Member since: Sep 04, 2013

And they call it inovation.. poor samsung fanboys

81. tedkord

Posts: 17544; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

No, they didn't. But Apple did. Taking ARM designs and ARM instruction sets is innovation for Apple.

87. jad.boutary

Posts: 107; Member since: Sep 04, 2013

Yeah at least they did something not copy and past it in there phone and voila inovation

101. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

Lol dumb ass. They were first to introduce big little which is a lot more helpful than this is.

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