Samsung Exynos 5410 could get software update to become true octa-core chip

Samsung Exynos 5410 could get software update to become true octa-core chip
We already know that the Samsung Exynos 5410 chip is not a true octa-core chip. With the big.LITTLE technology, two sets of 4 cores are utilized with one set active at a time. Just the other day, we told you how Samsung had used Heterogeneous Multi-Processing Capability (HMP) to turn its Exynos 5 line into true octa-core processors able to use all eight cores at a single time.

The interesting news this morning is that HMP can be added to the Samsung Exynos 5410, already used in the GT-i9500 version of the Samsung Galaxy S4, via a software update. The update should also work on the Exynos 5420 which has already been seen on video with HMP, using all 8 cores at once. That is potentially electrifying news for those with the international version of the Samsung Galaxy S4 as well as for those with the international model of the Samsung Galaxy Note 3 and the Meizu MX3.

Meizu has already announced that the Meizu MX3 will be getting an HMP update later this year to convert the Exynos silicon in that flagship model into a true octa-core. And yes, Samsung could do the same to its devices sporting an Exynos 5. The bottom line could be a more powerful and efficient device that can transform the inner workings of your handset thanks to a mere software update.

source: Meizu (translated), gizChina via UnwiredView

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44 Comments

1. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1337; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

Nice. This is truly innovating on the part of ARM and Samsung for allowing a software upgrade to do this instead of a hardware upgrade. This gives additional life to the international S4.

8. sharks

Posts: 236; Member since: Feb 16, 2013

It's not gonna happen for the S4 as the latter has already gone halfway through its lifespan before the S5 is announced in about 6 months. Samsung isn't going to unleash the marketing of "true octacore" via a simple update. That moniker will be reserved for something grand and new, in the form of its next flagship device. However, the Note 3 might still be eligible, although it is already packing a newer Exynos chipset with a lot of more CPU and GPU power relative to other handsets on the market right now. So, my guess is - no true octacore update for Note 3 either. The only solid possibility is after the S5 reveal, when the S4 is refreshed into the S4 Plus.

16. TROLL

Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

All this is just a Kernel that needs to be downloaded via Root ™

29. heyhi

Posts: 137; Member since: Feb 19, 2013

i guess Note 3 will be a true octacore. i read this on XDA Forum - a guy asked about the difference between exynos 5410(S4) and the new 5420(N3). Q: " read in the S4 forum that the Exynos 5410 is affected by a bug at the Corelink which caused some slow downs in the switch between A7 and A15 cores. Is the Exynos 5420 bugfree?" A: "Exynos 5410 had its CCI disabled - a hardware limitation, not a bug. The CCI is enabled in 5420" According to the answer, im not sure how they're gonna update 5410 if its a "hardware limitation", according to him. 5420 doesnt have this "limitaion", so..... Q: "Do we actually know if the 5420 supports the HMP (Heterogenius MultiProcessing)? If it does, will we have to wait for a software upgrade? (kernel?)" A: "It does support all the 3 processing types. Latest linux kernel has the support." i dont understand about programing, not sure about the answers, if they're tottaly true, but it seems about right.

32. Shatter

Posts: 2036; Member since: May 29, 2013

It is not half way to the S5 try about 7-8 more months.

13. ihatesmartphone unregistered

What a beast!!

2. zuckerboy

Posts: 898; Member since: Dec 22, 2011

It has been not a true octa core ? then samsung lied :D

7. xDrizzyXx

Posts: 64; Member since: Jun 28, 2011

Samsung never said it was a true octa-core. Its has always been big.LITTLE.

22. SleepingOz unregistered

It is a true octa-core, it's just not meant to be used as such.

3. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

I wonder how hot the phones will be in true 8-core mode? GS 4 in game mode will literally be too hot to hold....

18. scumbledEGG unregistered

octacore=timed bomb

38. Volcra

Posts: 21; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

It's more like the other way around; if you're doing the same amount of work on a quad core processor on a Octacore, temperatures will be lower as there is less strain on each individual core; also the battery life would be more efficient.

44. scumbledEGG unregistered

if you are only at 1ghz, but was the use of octacores if you aint running at 2ghz??? but then you'll be toast, haha! great power means great responsibilities, haha!

4. galanoth

Posts: 428; Member since: Nov 26, 2011

I thought the Galaxy Note 3 is using the 5420.

12. Alan01

Posts: 570; Member since: Mar 21, 2012

I thought that it was clear that this would also apply to the 5420 as well. I've added a few words to make that clewarer. Thanks! Alan F.

5. tarun.parashar

Posts: 8; Member since: Sep 11, 2013

this is crazy. How would they PHYSICALLY adjoin those dual processors. :p

6. yadu004

Posts: 72; Member since: Apr 26, 2013

Hell Yeah!!!

9. raghu67

Posts: 32; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

i don't think this is something that can be done by just a software update.. as it has to do with how the processor cores interact with each-other & transfer the load. as per what i understand, this new feature might be enabled in the newer 5420 SoC or may be with the newer batches of 5410 & 5420.. i may be wrong also..

14. ashisharbola

Posts: 62; Member since: Oct 20, 2012

Are you the engineer behind Exynos 5410 So u can say it can't be happen....

43. raghu67

Posts: 32; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

am not the engineer behind 5410 design, i said it is my opinion and i also said i may be wrong... whats wrong with you.

10. rawbow

Posts: 428; Member since: Mar 30, 2012

That's good support! Now Android needs to play catch up to these amazing processors

11. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

GREAT!!!

15. scumbledEGG unregistered

specs, specs, its all about OS...

19. TROLL

Posts: 4851; Member since: Apr 13, 2012

Mighty true A15s™

21. scumbledEGG unregistered

agreed but what about bloatware issues compared with different os?

17. FreakenSolom

Posts: 9; Member since: Sep 11, 2013

I wonder how will that effect the bettery life thing -_- I mean that the whole point of the Big.little was to make life bettery better ........ right O.o !!!!!!

20. Nephylim

Posts: 134; Member since: Apr 04, 2013

woow, great !!

23. SonyPS4

Posts: 347; Member since: May 21, 2013

Give us battery that last a week and minimum 128gb internal storage then we can talk about octa core or 4k video (to all manufacturer not just Samsung)

25. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

You're demanding a Ferrari with a Toyota price. It's never going to happen.

33. MorePhonesThanNeeded

Posts: 645; Member since: Oct 23, 2011

I'll take the Toyota as it will run off a tank of gas for a week, the Ferrari will be out of gas in 1/4th the time. I like to get where I'm going without having to plan my route accoring to filling stations. Samsung has a nice 128 GB internal storage, but Seagate just dropped the bomb of 500GB internal storage for slim tablets, I wonder if they can use the same tech to toss 250GB storage in a cellular device?

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