Qualcomm accuses Apple of ignoring sales ban on older iPhone models ordered by Chinese court

Qualcomm accuses Apple of ignoring sales ban on older iPhone models ordered by Chinese court
This past Monday, China's Fuzhou Intermediate People’s Court granted Qualcomm's request and ordered a ban on the importation and sale of older Apple iPhone models in the country. According to CNBC's David Farber, Qualcomm is arguing to the court that Apple is ignoring the ban, and continues to sell its handsets in China. As proof, the chip designer showed the court a video of iPhone units being unboxed and sold.

Because of a number of lawsuits between the two companies, there is bad blood between them. Qualcomm insists that Apple owes it $7 billion in royalty payments and that it has turned over secrets relating to its modem chips to rival Intel. In fact, this year Apple dropped Qualcomm as a supplier and is exclusively using Intel's modem chip in the iPhone. Apple has accused Qualcomm of charging excessive royalties. Back in 2017, Apple said that it pays Qualcomm five times more in licensing fees than all other firms it pays such fees to, combined. Still, Qualcomm CEO Steve Mollenkopf believes that both firms will shake hands by the end of this year.

In the case leading to the import and sales ban in China, the court ruled that Apple infringed on a pair of Qualcomm's software patents. One patent relates to software used to resize and adjust photos on a smartphone; the other patent deals with software used to help handset users navigate and close apps on their phones. The ban covers the iPhone 6s, iPhone 6s Plus, iPhone 7, iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone 8, iPhone 8 Plus and the iPhone X. Apple claims that the court order refers to those models, but only if sold with an older version of iOS, containing Qualcomm's software. Qualcomm disagrees, and says that the ruling affects the sale of nearly every iPhone model. On Wednesday morning, Apple had no comment.

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20 Comments

1. TechNeck

Posts: 624; Member since: Aug 29, 2014

Apple is going to get themselves in more trouble with Chinese courts if they don't abide by what they say. They still have nice phones to sell, they're just overpriced.

8. Finalflash

Posts: 4062; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

They apparently aren't overpriced enough for Apple. Not only do they not want to pay for tech they're using, they're also squeezing suppliers more and more. There is no way to keep raising prices and squeezing suppliers infinitely so their gravy train might be coming to a halt soon. Tim just can't innovate beyond financial games.

9. toukale

Posts: 599; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

There it is, the Apple is doomed comment, never fails. lmfao. Folks have been waiting for that for decades. You may have to wait a bit more my friend.

11. tedkord

Posts: 17047; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

He never said they were doomed, just that they can only raise prices and squeeze suppliers so much.

2. Nine1Sickness

Posts: 895; Member since: Jan 30, 2011

USA: Lock her up! Lock her up! China: Lock him up! Lock him up!

3. alanrock

Posts: 223; Member since: Oct 04, 2018

you see kids...money is (not) everything.

4. 7thlvl

Posts: 34; Member since: Dec 09, 2018

seem like a article to just have iphone affiliate links to earn you $$$. but seriously im with Qualcomm on this one.

20. worldpeace

Posts: 3077; Member since: Apr 15, 2016

Affiliated link : 3 iPhones Related Phones : 7 iPhones lol..

5. strategic_developer

Posts: 1627; Member since: Jul 17, 2018

I'm with Qualcomm on this one. The court order the sales ban and Apple is disobeying a court order. That is against the law and wrong. As far as Apple clicks Qualcomm is charging them 5 times more than what other com ppl anies charge Apple. Well Qualcomm has a right to charge whatever price. All Apple had to do was say no. But they signed an agreement t and they should be held too it. And since Apple isn't paying, any phone using their hardware should also be banned. Since Corporstions are people too according to Republican Mit Romney, then when a Corp breaks a law, the CEO should be thrown in jail since it would be by his orders to break the law. The ITC has also found Apple guilty vs Qualcomm, but yet refused to do a ban, likely because he knows Trump will overturn it. But he should donit anyways. It sets a wrong precedent when corps are allowed to breach a court order when they are found guilty if breaking a law. Apple is a disease and it's time for a cure. Microsoft you should have let Apple drown in their own misery.

7. toukale

Posts: 599; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

Except, the patents Qualcomm is doing that with are FRAND patents. Plus the case is currently making its way to the court system and Apple have a winnable case. Qualcomm is just trying everything they can to see if they can forced Apple's hands to settle out of court. Have you noticed who has been doing all the crying/screaming since that case started? Qualcomm even went so far as to hire "Definers" (the same company facebook hired to spread all the fake news). To spread fake news about Apple all of this year. Meanwhile Apple is waiting on the court to decide on the case.

15. midan

Posts: 2487; Member since: Oct 09, 2017

You did it again, you try to act like you understand the subject you are talking about, but in reality you have no idea :D just like toukale shows.

6. toukale

Posts: 599; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

Well Qualcomm thought they finally scored a point against Apple, only to realize the Chinese were clever in their decision. Apple employs over 1 million people in China through Foxconn. How many people do Qualcomm employ in China indirectly? Second, it's a software patent, which iOS12 took care off. It's the reason why all the iPhones they were release this past Sept. is not on the ban list. Apple stop supporting iOS11 this past October 9th to be exact. Meaning all their devices from the 5S on currently ship with iOS12. Meaning none of those devices are infranging those patents. I am sure its not by accident, and China knew well in advance what they were doing when they placed that banned.

10. slashas

Posts: 118; Member since: Jul 17, 2017

It is strange to hear that when patent was breached but fixed with software update after 3 years so how come Apple was doing breach more than 3 years without fines... cool let me steal something use for few years and reply when caught that ups sorry I have now updated :) Apple should be fined with $ from past and feature sales in the China for mentioned phones instead of ban.

13. toukale

Posts: 599; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

What are you on about? Your comment makes no sense, I am not even going to respond. Qualcomm only file this last year because Apple stopped being their buddy. Like a mad ex-girlfriend, its over Qualcomm, get use to it.

12. tedkord

Posts: 17047; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

The reason recent iPhones weren't included is that when the case was filed, they had no idea if the phones infringed or not. It's the same reason in ever Samsung suit, Apple was suing for older models. That's nothing new, the court system moves slowly. The F in FRAND stands for fair, not free. If QC are charging all others roughly the same, then it's fair. And, that doesn't necessarily mean a net dollar amount, if they charge a percentage of the price, so long as it's the same percentage, it's fair.

14. toukale

Posts: 599; Member since: Jun 10, 2015

Then Qualcomm should wait for the courts conclusion if they are so confident. Btw, Apple had to show the court Qualcomm's money is seating in an escrow account during this whole thing. If Qualcomm wins, they get their money, simple as that. Qualcomm have already been found guilty of it in 3 countries. Which is why they hired "Definers" like Facebook to spread "fakenews" about Apple. Someone is very afraid to lose this case, and it's not Apple.

17. koioz

Posts: 132; Member since: Nov 29, 2018

What will expect you from a desperate company. Keep ranting when someone copies the shape of their crappy iphones but good at pretending they made a tech they copied.

18. darkkjedii

Posts: 30688; Member since: Feb 05, 2011

Whatever secrets Apple turned over to intel, intel broke em...that’s for damn sure.

19. Peaceboy

Posts: 640; Member since: Oct 11, 2018

I want Qualcomm’s to funish unfair pricing of their modems.

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