Do you think that planned obsolescence exists?

Do you think that planned obsolescence exists?
Planned obsolescence is a term that we are hearing a lot about in recent years and if you don't quite understand it fully, it all boils down to companies deliberately designing devices that will become obsolete in a shorter amount of time than they could potentially last. This could happen via the initial design or in the case of smartphones, via software updates that bring performance down.

But is this planned obsolescence thing something real or is it a conspiracy theory?

The truth is that nobody except for the top people in the biggest companies in the world know this, so we can only speculate. There are plenty of speculators saying that moves like the death of removable batteries in phones, the lack of microSD card support for expandable storage and software updates that slow down rather than improving the performance of the phone are clear examples of it. Others will argue that those were moves that improved the design of modern phones, while removable cards could sometimes fail.

Whatever it is, we want to hear your thoughts on this: is planned obsolescence real? And what are your arguments that this is indeed happening? Or is it something that's completely made up in your opinion?

Is "planned obsolescence" real?

Yes!
91.05%
No way.
8.95%

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93 Comments

1. macawmatt

Posts: 134; Member since: Feb 20, 2012

Definitely on the fruit side of the fence.

4. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Nope. iOS 12 fixed that. But all the androids under Samsung STILL gets obsolete after 3 moths of usage lolzzzzzzzz. If you can say it's planned obsolesce that's fine with me LOL!!

27. Fred3

Posts: 494; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

The main reason for the IOS update because of the lawsuite Apple recently got sued for slowing down older iphones and was forced to fix it. LMAO!!!!

45. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

This is what I don't get about the iFans. They literally had evidence that Apple is willing to kill performance without telling them and they still get lubed up and bent over every September. iOS 12 is just them taking out all the code to purposely slow down iPhones older than the newest ones and eventually (starting next quarter), that code will slowly seep back in. That's the benefit of open source, you can't screw over the customer with shady crap like that whole throttling incident. Android manufacturers also put as much hardware as it is physically possible in their flagships so no planned obsolescence there. Finally, updates aren't as frequent but if it functions on day one it will function just as well as soon as you reformat. Plus, you can go back to earlier versions so planned obsolescence is t even possible, unlike with Apples updates. Oh well, to each their own. Guess the iFans like getting shafted.

57. Leo_MC

Posts: 7190; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Last month I have used an iPhone 5 for a few days (iOS 10.3, 2y old) as a secondary phone; of course it was not snappy, but it was more responsive than a LG (v something with ears) from 2018 I had checked out the same days. The 5s is relatively ok for its age with iOS 12 and 7 is a rock, functional wise.

68. cheetah2k

Posts: 2213; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

iFans get shafted so often they all carry lube in their hand bags...

98. donhwan

Posts: 21; Member since: Feb 15, 2012

@piyath "after

19. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

Guess you haven't head of iOS 12 you numbnut!

48. tedkord

Posts: 17298; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

We did. It's basically Android Nougat with less functionality.

58. Leo_MC

Posts: 7190; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Right: less bugs, less annoyance, less security holes.

78. mootu

Posts: 1499; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

Is that why they had to patch it 16 times last year? Probably the highest number of "fixes" it had to release in one OS year.

87. Leo_MC

Posts: 7190; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

They are called updates.

39. TheOracle1

Posts: 2210; Member since: May 04, 2015

Most definitely with Apple.

44. RoyalMike unregistered

Iphone XS will be obsolete when the new iPhones will launch which were supposed to come in 2018 but will now come in 2019. It already looks boring so yeah its planned

71. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

Guess you need to learn what obsolete means... Google it and then come back...

83. ZombieHunter

Posts: 265; Member since: Oct 13, 2013

I googled "What does obsolete mean" Google responded "Smart Apple fans" Oh!

85. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

Guess Apple need to make a search engine now. Google's going down the crapper with you! LMAO!

86. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

FYI its this "Planned obsolescence, or built-in obsolescence, in industrial design and economics is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so it will become obsolete (that is, unfashionable or no longer functional) after a certain period of time." Which is the very definition of an Android Phone, they're obsolete a week after they've been released! LMAO! HAHAHAHAHA

2. Sakeem

Posts: 857; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

Apple was doing it. So it does exist.

9. piyath

Posts: 2445; Member since: Mar 23, 2012

Can your precious android make a 5 year old phone function reasonably well today with the latest software + security ?? Nope. But Apple can and they've done it with iOS 12. So STFU and get a life.

11. Sakeem

Posts: 857; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

Why are you attacking me? Precious Andriod? lolololol......I don't put phones or brands on a pedastal like some of you do here. You are the one that needs to get a life for defending a company that doesn't know or care that you exist.

37. Chrusti

Posts: 100; Member since: Jul 25, 2015

Lol you f**king owned piyath. He went to cry to his mama now and told her you said something bad about his phone!

40. izim1

Posts: 1596; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

I tell everyone this. Fanboys won't listen. I've a Lincoln, chevy, and dodge in my driveway. Ive an iphone SE that i use for work because it fits my work needs and an s9 for personal use because they had the BOGO deal going on and i needed a new personal phone. My tvs are sony, samsung, and lg. Everything works just as well. Im not being sponsored by any brand so ill buy whatever fits my needs for the best price and value. These people who worship certain brands and bash on others, seriously have mental issues and I've no problem letting them know. But fanboys being fanboys just take it as you attacking their brand because YOUR a fanboy of the rival brand. They see no other way. Thats their reality. Then you have the closet fanboys like kiki7 or whatever his name is who'll claim theyre not a fanboy but theyre just sick of android fanboys picking on the innocent apple owners who dont bother anybody...

43. Sakeem

Posts: 857; Member since: Sep 05, 2012

I get brand loyalty, but man.....some take it way too far on this site. Both sides. Apple and Samsung/Android. It's crazy. Is it really that serious? I've seen some vile things said on this site and I can't believe some would stoop so low to defend a company that has no idea who you are.

12. bucknassty

Posts: 1325; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

tell that to the millions of android devices still live and going strong on older versions... shows that you dont have to have the latest to enjoy something good!

29. Fred3

Posts: 494; Member since: Jan 16, 2018

The IPhone 5 didn't get any updates but my google nexus which i don't use still get updates. You're just buthurt LMAO

54. JCASS889

Posts: 503; Member since: May 18, 2018

ever heard of custom roms? my lg g3 runs android 9 with Septembers security updates, seems pretty updated to me.

59. darkwintercloud

Posts: 33; Member since: Oct 04, 2017

YES, go to XDA developers and you will se devices like Nexus 4 from 2012 running Oreo with August Security Patch running beautifully. Its just a matter of installing a Rom manually. The thing is, with a android phone, for instance, your FREE TO DO WATHEVER YOU WANT. Want to officially downgrade? You can do it. Want to build YOUR OWN FIRMWARE, you can do it. Is there a way to install even a different OS, if a developer wants it can do it. Want to update your phone with a custom rom? You can do it. End of discution. On iOS you have to live with what Apple thinks its better for the device, well we know that a couple months ago what it was doing with an "old battery" on an iDevice. Cripples the device to the point of unstable usage, without the user consent. It that picture about an iPhone 6S with better performance after a battery replacement didnt got the attention it took a while back, people would still believe that the device is slow just because its just time to switch to a new one. STFU and get a brain!

65. wickedwilly

Posts: 666; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

You can have a 5 year old Android phone that works perfectly, is just as secure as an Phone, with more functionality than a year old iPhone. The bonus is in that 5 years you have not had the inconvenience of all the bugs every update, risk of bricking and planned obsolescence while enjoying superior functionality.

72. T12RYK

Posts: 849; Member since: Jun 10, 2011

No it doesn't!!

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