No more Snap, Crackle or Pop for iPhone 8/8 Plus as Apple sends out iOS 11.0.2

3. Diezparda (Posts: 940; Member since: 23 Oct 2013)

then they shouldn't hurry & release buggy software in 1st place.

4. AVVA1 (Posts: 227; Member since: 01 Aug 2017)

It's not that easy there are times bugs show up even after deliberate inspections after it's released to the public. They are quite fast to deliver an update to fix the problem so kudos to them.

9. sgodsell (Posts: 6485; Member since: 16 Mar 2013)

Now all they have to do is speed up iOS. Wait, unless Apple purposely added in wait states to gently piss off older iPhone users, so Apple can gently and deliberately push their customers to upgrading to the next iPhone. ;-)

10. Diezparda (Posts: 940; Member since: 23 Oct 2013)

Older device get slower over time, but running new device (iPad Pro 10.5 model), though i didn't notice it's become slower it's still buggy and that's annoying.

17. Back_from_beyond (Posts: 796; Member since: 04 Sep 2015)

Except a study has proven that major iOS updates do actually make their older models noticably slower. The iOS 11 update also did something else, it pretty much destroyed batterylife on older models. Those on the iPhone 7 (Plus) are saying it drains about 50% faster. Those on the 6S or older more than twice the battery drain. Several of my coworkers that have updated to iOS 11 wanna undo it already, because battery life is abysmal.

20. Jimrod (Posts: 1597; Member since: 22 Sep 2014)

Odd that, I'm on a year old SE and there's no noticeable change to battery life.

22. Diezparda (Posts: 940; Member since: 23 Oct 2013)

I had wifi problem, battery last shorter than when i'm using iOS 10, and apps forced to close, it still didn't fixed.

I can only tells my own experience, i didn't notice if the device is any slower or not since it's new device equiped with powerful processor (i dunno what will happen with older device). I think most ppl can't tell a few second difference without side by side comparison.

27. mikehunta727 (unregistered)

My work 7 Plus has no battery drain issues at all and is as good as day 1. It lasts me all day and has no weird standby drain effect. On latest version btw

Only issue I been experiencing on iOS 11 is lag in some animations when using the phone/going in and out of apps, stuff like that. Haven't experienced anything ground breaking yet

My anecdotal evidence

29. uncle_gadget (banned) (Posts: 1050; Member since: 20 Sep 2017)

That may be true, but if this was Samsung, that isn't what you would be saying.

6. iushnt (Posts: 2864; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)

They didn’t hurry. The OS is solid and reliable.

12. Xilam (unregistered)

You'd find plenty of bugs in Android fast too if it had at least half the adoption rate as iOS new updates...

30. uncle_gadget (banned) (Posts: 1050; Member since: 20 Sep 2017)

What? You know why Android doesn't need as many updates? Because it has less issues.

Here is the difference. With Apple, Apple directly updates it phones.

Android firmware, leave Google and then the carriers also does things to test and make sure firmware OTA are good as well.

Though either can have issues, Android has been proven to have less issues. I've never had an Android phone get bricked from an update, but I've had 2 iPhone get bricked from them.

I've never lost data on an Android OTA update. I've lost data on OTA and PC updating via iTunes and had backups that failed to restore.

Even though I have had Android fail backup on my Samsung using SmartSwitch, you can manually restore your updates vs just using the software to handle them all at once. You can't do this on IOS period.

Even if your iPhone has the latest iOS released, I can have a 5 year old Android that won't get the latest update and it will still do things that the present iPhone with latest iOS can't do.

Example, the Galaxy S4 and S5 haven't been updates in years and both do things that even today's iPhone can't do.

Most people don't update until their phone says to do so. Most people in the world could never tell you what version of any OS they are running and most iPhone users couldn't even tell you which model of the phone they own. Jimmy Kimmel proved that showing people old iPhone claiming they were new and people actually thought they were.

I am not saying Apple should have flawless software. What I am saying is, Apple has it easier than any OEM when it comes to software upgrades and since iOS 7 Apple has had more issues with software than all Android OEM's combined.

Apple based on facts in history have NEVER been good at software and that simply hasn't changed.

I guess there are things all the money in the world can't fix!

14. piyath (Posts: 2288; Member since: 23 Mar 2012)

Oh shut up you pathetic fanboy. Android 8.0 is on 0.2% as of now and you won't get it even before Q2 2018. Android fragmentation is hilarious. Apple releases fixes and all the performance updates within a month or so and you'll get a stable device after that.

15. trojan_horse (banned) (Posts: 5868; Member since: 06 May 2016)

When comparing percentages, take into account the vast difference in the number of Android devices versus the number of iOS devices.

16. TheOracle1 (Posts: 1097; Member since: 04 May 2015)

Android fragmentation is a myth unless you're on stock Android and don't receive updates. 90% of manufacturers have their own iteration of Android and most of them are two cycles ahead of stock Android in terms of features and security. In other words skins like miui, zenui and emui on Marshmallow already have most of the features and patches of Oreo and Nougat. A good example is the introduction of permissions on Marshmallow which were already available on miui Lollipop.

18. Diezparda (Posts: 940; Member since: 23 Oct 2013)

How i'm a fanboy when i use both platform? I simply enjoy my android phone and iPad but not so much till i upgrade to iOS 11.

Aren't u so butthurt iFan? Apple release software update last week and now, it's enough to proof it has many problems.

19. Back_from_beyond (Posts: 796; Member since: 04 Sep 2015)

Whereas Android manufacturers thoroughly test their updates before releasing them and thus rarely come with big bugs. For Google's own devices it uses the same approach as Apple does and you hear about bugs making it into the updates as much as they do on iOS. Why? Because just like Apple they opt to let users discover the bugs. Manufacturers like Samsung, Huawei, LG and Sony thoroughly test their updates before release, resulting in a far superior update with significantly less issues. So yeah, maybe they take a bit longer to make it to devices, but generally you experience far less problems with Android updates than you do with iOS updates. So I'd rather wait a few months to get an update that doesn't break anything, than to go through several updates that fix and break things as they go along.

32. uncle_gadget (banned) (Posts: 1050; Member since: 20 Sep 2017)

Exactly and very well said.

33. Xilam (unregistered)

Nearly every android update has reported problems.

31. uncle_gadget (banned) (Posts: 1050; Member since: 20 Sep 2017)

Even without having Android 8.0. All the Android phone is have right now, All do at least 25 things the iPhone still can't do.

It not just about the numbers.

28. MpowerSkills (Posts: 47; Member since: 19 Feb 2011)

I think that's the first time Apple has been accused of hurrying on anything.

5. submar (Posts: 713; Member since: 19 Sep 2014)

Yes, because they're holding it wrong.

7. cnour (banned) (Posts: 2305; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)

Very old one....update yourself...

8. nokia12 (Posts: 610; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)

You are updating yourself wrong

11. iushnt (Posts: 2864; Member since: 06 Feb 2013)

Was funny

21. cnour (banned) (Posts: 2305; Member since: 11 Sep 2014)

Your update has more bugs, but it is normal for Nokia.