Microsoft schedules event for October 26, but don't expect a Surface Phone announcement

Microsoft schedules event for October 26, but don't expect a Surface Phone announcement
Microsoft fans are probably aware that the company recently announced a hardware event for October 26. While this is good news since we're certainly going to find out more about Microsoft's plans in the mobile and gaming industry, there won't be anything to see at the event when it comes to smartphones.

The Redmond-based company is about to get rid of the Lumia family, but that doesn't mean that it will not continue to launch other Windows 10 smartphones. The bad news is the long-rumored Surface Phone is nowhere near ready for prime time.

As we explained in our previous report, the Surface Phone is likely to be unveiled in late 2017, or during the next year. The information has been recently confirmed by Mary Jo Foley, who also stated that Microsoft fans should not expect any new announcement related to smartphones this year.

On top of that, Microsoft was pretty clear that it won't launch another Band device in 2016, so don't expect one to be unveiled later this month. What we expect to see at Microsoft's event scheduled for October 26 is a Surface All-in-One device, which will probably come with a Surface keyboard and mouse.



Some gaming news will be part of the event, but Microsoft is also expected to highlight some of its OEM partners' Windows 10 devices. There might be phones on the stage, but not made by Microsoft.

So, if you still believe in Windows 10 Mobile, your best bet for a smartphone designed and built by Microsoft is the Surface Phone, which isn't coming until late 2017 or maybe 2018. Are you still hyped for a Windows 10 smartphone made by Microsoft? If yes, are you willing to wait that long to be able to get one?

source: Microsoft via ZDNet

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25 Comments

1. Martineverest

Posts: 521; Member since: Oct 27, 2015

the only innovative hardware announcement this year

2. Nopers unregistered

What's it going to be? Surface pro 5 with faster processor, gpu, new type cover and pen. Innovation.

5. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

Nope, it'll likely have a "Flux Capacitor"... Considering all that time Microsoft is taking to introducing the Surface Phone...! Sources say that Surface Phone will launch somewhere around The 2017 mark...! If it ain't Flux Capacitor, then what the hell it is...? Why its taking so long, Microsoft...? Oh well... G'Day!

13. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

See post #11.

8. bolosantosi

Posts: 103; Member since: Sep 20, 2016

What is innovation to you?

10. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

I'm hoping it'll include a Thunderbolt 3 port and a new dock that allows you connect a PCIE graphics card to the tablet when docked. Thus unlocking the potential to replace a full high-end Desktop with 0 compromise. That'll make it a 0 compromise 4-in-1 device.

21. sgodsell

Posts: 7209; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Thunderbolt 3 with 40 Gbps would be really awesome. But who the hell needs to support two 4k displays at 30 fps with your smartphone? Absolutely no one needs that today or for that matter even two years from now. Considering there is barely any 4k displays in consumers homes. Nevermind smartphones or tablets. The only 4k smartphone that comes to mind is Sony's Xperia Z5 premium. That display alone surpasses the HTC Vive, Oculus Rift, Gear VR, PS VR, and every other VR display on the planet. USB 3.1 supports 10 Gbps. Let's just see about one 4k display at 60 fps. Especially when you are talking about portability, then only one 4k display will ever be needed at most. Remember battery life is a major factor. Intel can make a smart phone tomorrow with an i7 processor. However expect to get only 30 minutes of usage before the battery dies. There is trades off to everything.

22. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

"But who the hell needs to support two 4k displays at 30 fps with your smartphone" Those who want only 1 computing device to worry about. Regardless, I'm talking about the Surface Pro 5 here, look at the comment I'm responding to.

23. sgodsell

Posts: 7209; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

Then why do you need thunderbolt 3. Is USB 3.1 speed not good enough for you? Especially when it can support 10 Gbps. Sure thunderbolt 3 is 4 times faster than USB 3.1, but USB 2.0 was 480 Mbps, and USB 3.0 is 5 Gbps. Look I know a lot about throughput and data speeds. For mobile devices a number of them today have USB-C ports but still only support USB 2.0 speed, and some are supporting USB 3.0 speeds. A 2k display at 60 fps is pushing (2560x1440x4x60) = 885 MB per second. So USB 3.1 with its fast mode can handle 1.2 GB of data per second. Which is more than fast enough. If you remove the alpha byte (color) then that brings it down to 664 MB per second. Right now Mobile devices need more USB 3.1 speed. Nevermind thunderbolt 3 speeds. Granted it would be awesome, but smartphones don't need it today or tomorrow.

25. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

Lol, you clearly have no idea of the purpose behind Thunderbolt besides merely speed. They allow you to connect a high-end Desktop class GPU to your portable system when docked. You'll be able to use them graphics intense 3D-modelling software or play all them intense graphics PC games with great framerate, all of that achieved by simply docking it at your desk. Basically, you're able to turn it into a full high-end Desktop with 0 comprise with that Thunderbolt port. When you're done with those graphics intense work, undock and enjoy the portability as a Laptop or Tablet, again, with 0 compromise. That's what I want in a Surface Pro. Again, I'm talking about the Surface Pro 5 here.

3. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Another rumor is that they are releasing an All-In-One desktop PC, under the Surface brand Its supposedly easily upgradeable (probably how it relates to the Windows 10 and Xbox gaming announcements also scheduled at that event) http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/10/more-surface-hardware-leaking-but-none-of-it-is-a-computer/ As a PC gamer, I'm pretty curious Although I'm not sure its something for myself It sounds like something I could possibly reccomend to less tech savy friends, assuming price is reasonably

6. GreenMan

Posts: 2697; Member since: Nov 09, 2015

The game developers have to re-compile the whole bloody game for ARM... Of course there's a possibility that Microsoft might use an X86 Intel Atom SoC... Oh well... Only time will tell, mate... So, G'Day!

9. vincelongman

Posts: 5677; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

The rumors are its an All-In-One desktop PChttps://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/10/surface-aio-patent-2.jpg It would definietely be an Intel Core processor

24. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

I like the idea of a Surface Desktop however i don't think i would be buying it over DIY PC due to the premium Microsoft usually charges for their hardware.

4. Chuck007

Posts: 1410; Member since: Mar 02, 2014

I'm looking forward to the all-in-one cause with Microsoft's track record so far, the surface line have been brilliant so far. Products that don't conform to the norm that surprisingly makes the PC market refreshing for a change. Now I have no clue how Microsoft will handle the Surface phone, but if Microsoft indeed decides to slap its Surface branding to it, I'm sure it'll be a great product. I'm currently set on getting an iPhone 8 next year but if Microsoft manages to make something remotely similar (meaning dual edge screen with fingerprint scanner embedded into the screen), we have a major contender on our hands here.

7. hado86

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

Surface pro with desktop or 28 watt dual core chipset would be nice.

12. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

If they're able to dock and switch CPUs AND GPUs, that'll be groundbreaking and a big gateway to materializing the the Surface Phone.

11. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

Couldn't care less how long it takes. If they're able to materialize the true Surface Phone (a Pocket PC with 0 compromise), I'll happily be grabbing one. All Smartphones at the moment are merely companions to my Surface Pro. A true Surface Phone will be my 1 and only computing device, capable of practically transforming into every form-factor of a PC (SmartPhone, Tablet, Laptop, and Desktop) with 0 compromise.

16. Fona13A unregistered

The Surface Phone will be a whole other category. Breaking categories is the kind of shake-up this industry needs.

17. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

I would like to see a true pocket PC however Intel killed the the Mobile CPU's that could make it happen. Maybe AMD has an x86 mobile CPU Microsoft could use to make a Pocket PC like Smart phone. rumor has it that the Surface smart phones will use ARMS CPU's and they do not run win32/x86 Desktop programs. the new Surface smart phone will probably be like the HP Elite X3 except it will run special Microsoft software to help it access and run x86/win32 Desktop PC software. This will be let down for many Windows smart phone fans but the HP Elite X3 shows this kind of smart phone is not so bad to have because it works very similar to a pocket PC

20. MrElectrifyer

Posts: 3960; Member since: Oct 21, 2014

If it comes with ARM, it'll offer nothing more than what Android devices do with Andromium OS. I wouldn't put it past Microsoft to invent their own x86 mobile chipset, considering the all-new HPU they invented in the Hololens.

14. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

MS is focused on building the Surface brand beyond what it is now without leaving behind it's partners. Be fun to see how that turns out. As for a Surface phone or any other Windows 10 phone, just build the ecosystem and it will never be too late. If what consumers want is available, the Windows mobile offering will find a home. If it isn't, then they have seen the result. Let all-in-ones, convertibles, tablets, and gaming build the ecosystem through Universal apps. Then bring Windows 10 mobile on a large scale to phones. Otherwise, keep it professional focused and don't bother trying to compete with the big two. Won't work.

15. raiter

Posts: 33; Member since: Mar 10, 2014

If MS really is going to build the SurfacePhone (or the new device in next few years) then it could be worth to wait. But the MS must keep support for existing devices. There would also be nice, to have more OEMs to build the Win10Mobile devices. But with current unclear statements from MS, about the future of W10Phone, it seems impossible to attract the OEMs. Really hope, MS will find the way to get back in mobile market. Because the choice between Android or IOS ... that is not the real choice, isn`t?.

18. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

it appears to me that for now Microsoft will for awhile let it's OEM partners build and sell Windows 10 mobile smart phones while it supports and make the Windows 10 mobile operating system better which people in the Windows insider window 10 mobile smartphone program will tell you they are now doing. Microsoft insiders say we may not see a Microsoft "Surface" smart phone till late 2017. folks it's up to microsoft OEM partners to make the new hardware and microsoft will make the software like the GOOD OLD DAYS before EX CEO Ballmer bought Nokia

19. 7thspaceman

Posts: 1597; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

MS CEO Nedella seems to me to be leaning to have Microsoft's OEM partners carry Windows smart phones forward as far as hardware manufacturing is concerned. there is no doubt in my mind that they are working on making the Windows 10 mobile operating system better and there are good things about it like it uses MS Universal Apps that work on all windows 10 devices and the "Continuum mode" which turns a windows 10 mobile smartphone into a pocket PC like device that can very useful at times. folks there are 4 windows 10 mobile smart phones on the market place that have Continuum mode that are not made by Microsoft. Microsoft may indeed return to it's OLD status of just making the software and it's OEM partners making the hardware to run it

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