Microsoft gets Motorola's Android phones banned in Germany

Microsoft gets Motorola's Android phones banned in Germany
It looks like Motorola will be joining the rest of the Android gang and start paying license fees to Microsoft for using technology invented (patented) by Redmond. After Mannheim Regional Court Judge Andreas Voss ruled that Motorola's Android devices are indeed infringing on Microsoft's FAT file system patent, Microsoft can now use this injunction to enforce a 10 million euro bond, block Moto's Androids from being sold in Germany and request to be paid an unspecified amount due to damages caused to the maker of Windows Phone.

However, we can imagine that Motorola will not stand having its devices taken off from shelves and will attempt to settle this with Microsoft by agreeing to pay some kind of licensing fee for using the FAT file system on its phones. Apparently Motorola has tried to argue that this should be considered a FRAND patent, but the judge has obviously ruled that since Motorola has had other options, this argument doesn't hold much water.

Even though its owner, Google, is known to oppose such kind of licensing agreements, there may not be any other way for Moto, if we take some other major manufacturers as an example, like Samsung and HTC, which are already paying licensing fees to Microsoft.

via: Electronista

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59 Comments

1. mercorp

Posts: 1045; Member since: Jan 28, 2012

Trying to convert motorola to wp8? Microsoft shows its "be evil' philosophy against google again.

7. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

that wont happen since Google owns moto

51. nightelf91

Posts: 20; Member since: Jul 03, 2012

Not entirely true. Google owns Motorola Mobility (patent division), not Motorola Solutions (hardware maker).

56. dmckay12

Posts: 243; Member since: Feb 25, 2012

Motorola Mobility is the handset/phone division (with its own set of patents) and Motorola solutions makes set top boxes and other things that are not phones.

21. lubba

Posts: 1313; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

Don't think MS trying to convert anyone. Well at one point MS did try to court Moto to become a WP oem. Google beat MS to the punch.

38. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Well, Google could just implement a non-FAT filesystem solution in Android.... As the German court noted, there are other alternatives.

44. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

actually android has capabilities to use EXT file system and there are other, but fat is quite popular because of windows so manufacturers want to use popular files systems to avoid making workarounds and making users life simpler

49. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

Well, for the short-term (at least in Germany), it would seem that disabling the FAT file system is an alternative to a sales ban.

2. pistolashtc

Posts: 29; Member since: Dec 28, 2010

Why is everybody banning android devices from everywhere??

5. PAPINYC

Posts: 2315; Member since: Jul 30, 2011

Because they're Nazis (or, iNazis)ยก

10. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

This is Microsoft not Apple... Stop trolling and go outside.

32. Pings

Posts: 304; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

Apple has done it too....

58. iami67

Posts: 332; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

Hey papasmurf your the one trolling he didnt say anything about apple he said why is everything not why is apple. learn to read silly boy

14. taco50

Posts: 5506; Member since: Oct 08, 2009

Google is trampling on people's ip. Companies won't stand for it.

16. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

READ Motorola, and is related to FAT file system, you know what FAT is you know where FAR is used? doubt you do no go away... REPORTED

29. troutsy

Posts: 382; Member since: Feb 17, 2012

Thumbs up because I think you were going to make a good point if it was in English.

31. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

My bad :s

40. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

Google owns Moto.

45. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

you know this "infringement" came before Google bought moto? how log has it actually passed since the acquisition was completed? how many of the infiging phones should have been products influenced directly by Google? I guess some people just want to see the world burn

36. Commentator

Posts: 3722; Member since: Aug 16, 2011

taco50 with more upvotes than downvotes?!? I'm screen-capping this one!

26. nofear

Posts: 151; Member since: Jun 22, 2012

Because it can not be compete!

54. anywherehome

Posts: 971; Member since: Dec 13, 2011

Because they (Apple + Microsoft=pure evil) are scared of the innovations for free for people's progress

55. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Because Android infringes on a lot of patents.

57. anywherehome

Posts: 971; Member since: Dec 13, 2011

no, because Apple steals a lot of ridiculous patents:http://goo gl/04pud and Apple is complete rotten company:https://sites.google com/site/corpsins/ just deal with the facts, not just talk without any detailed argument like you do ;)

3. PAPINYC

Posts: 2315; Member since: Jul 30, 2011

iThought HiTler was dead?

4. ardent1

Posts: 2000; Member since: Apr 16, 2011

MS is making a killing from android devices.

8. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

dunno, its not helping them get more customers, I honestly though the FAT system was FRAND long ago, oh well that's how things roll these days

18. Aeires unregistered

Yeah, pay it and move on. Better yet, pull a Samsung and work out a licensing deal to make W8 phones to the fees balance out. Just because Google owns Motorola doesn't mean they have to be a one horse show, especially when they've said Motorola would retain it's own identity.

39. Droid_X_Doug

Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010

FAT-16 was introduced with the IBM PC back around 1984. If 1984 is the date the FAT patent was issued, it is approaching expiration. The expiration could be extended through continuations, but as a general rule, continuations cover the new subject matter only. Moto may be better served by appealing the sales ban.

46. protozeloz

Posts: 5396; Member since: Sep 16, 2010

they will probably go for that, waiting for the patent "blessed time " to run out, but they can also pay until they don't need to do so if forced otherwise

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