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IHS: Galaxy S8 with 6GB RAM is in the wings, but only for China

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Samsung already sells a phone with 6 GB RAM in China - the C9 Pro

Samsung already sells a phone with 6 GB RAM in China - the C9 Pro


What, 6 GB RAM on a Samsung flagship? Yes, Samsung was tipped planning do it with the Galaxy Note 7 in China, so why not fast forward a few months, and do it with the Galaxy S8, offering both 4GB/64GB and 6GB/128GB models there. At least that's the claim coming out of none other than Kevin Wong, the research director of IHS for China, and it's not the first time we are hearing this rumor there.

With the Note 7, it was speculated that Samsung didn't want local brands that already have phones with 6 GB RAM on the market, to undermine the launch of its high-end phablet, and the argumentation for an eventual S8 with 6 GB RAM may be the same. In fact, it's speculated that Samsung's upcoming flagship models will have versions with 6 GB RAM and 128 GB storage both in China, and in South Korea. Samsung already has the C9 Pro with 6 GB RAM  and 64 GB storage on sale in China, so it's not without a precedent.

Whether these will be announced at launch, or arrive later on, if the rumors hold water in the end, remains to be heard come March 29 or thereabouts, but it's pretty believable, and Samsung is certainly well positioned to do it as the largest supplier of memory and storage chips. If you have been hoping for a version with 256 GB storage, though, tough luck, as there are no indications that will be happening.

IHS: Galaxy S8 with 6GB RAM is in the wings, but only for China

source: Kevin Wang (Weibo)
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posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:21 5

1. JocularJ (Posts: 158; Member since: 27 Apr 2011)


The majority of westerners don't want, need, or care about RAM so they're fine with 4/64 but Samsung should give the power users and spec junkies the option to get 6/128 instead of deciding for us what we want. They'll actually sell more phones if we have more options other than just color ... Just my two cents

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:30 2

3. Bankz (Posts: 1963; Member since: 08 Apr 2016)


This.. Samsung seem to be resting on their laurels lately. I used to know samsung as the king of the spare-no-expense game. Could it be that they have their attention divided by another divice?

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 07:42 2

15. LebronJamesFanboy (Posts: 618; Member since: 23 Mar 2013)


I have 6gb of RAM on my Mi Note 2.

I promise you guys, it makes a huge difference in speed and multitasking.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:42 1

7. trojan_horse (Posts: 4654; Member since: 06 May 2016)


I think this is because the Chinese market is so fierce with competition, and with the local brands marketing heavily on specs, Samsung can't afford to let consumers chose another device over the S8, just because the S8 doesn't have 6GB RAM..

But again, wouldn't 6GB RAM be awesome for VR?

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 06:54 2

12. Tabby_Tiger (Posts: 275; Member since: 23 Jan 2017)


Both Samsung and Apple have lost market share to Chinese manufacturers like Huawei, Vivo, Oppo and Xiaomi in China.

Tough customers.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 07:15

13. kerginaldo17 (unregistered)


I agree.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 08:41

18. remixfa (Posts: 14604; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)


i can get behind the 128 having more ram than the 64. honestly, it would almost make the price bump worth it (since the memory itself is pennies and pure profit margin)

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 09:40

26. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14118; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


And you know this how? The fact is, I bet I can go an ask people on the street how much RAM their phone has and they wont even know. So they have no idea if they need it or not.

Do you only and always shop based only on need? NO! Because no one does. We also buy things we just "want".

If they plan to increase the cost of the phone, I want something to go with that price increase. 2GB of more RAM would be a nice option for that cost increase.

I not only want to pay for style, I want to pay for substance.

Just because the vast majority of people could care less according to you, that doesn't make it any less important.

Guess what, most people could care less about AIDS or HIV. Doesn't make it any less important though...right?

Samsung phones would benefit greatly from more RAM due to its featureset.

I go into RAM management and even before you install apps, over 50% of the RAM is already secured by the system and pre-installed apps. Leaving me with under 2Gb available for my own.

If the phone had 6GB and the system took 3, I'd still ave 3GB to work with which would improve multi-tasking capabilities.

I never said its a must have. I am saying because they are doing it for another locale, why not just do all the phone. It make sit seam they are getting special treatment, especially after the Note 7 issue. We are due some payback!

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 09:51 2

29. kiko007 (Posts: 5221; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


What....the....f**k?

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 10:02

33. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14118; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


What si the problem. Do you know how to read/comprehend? DO I need to spell it out in Crayon for you?

Should I write it in "fruit" smelling markers?

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 10:18 1

39. kiko007 (Posts: 5221; Member since: 17 Feb 2016)


The snark is a bit much bro. I was just in aw at the fact you criticized Samsung. Never thought I'd see the day.....

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:24 3

2. Bankz (Posts: 1963; Member since: 08 Apr 2016)


What's so dificult about bringing 6gb ram to the rest of the world? Just when i felt 2017 will finally be the year of so much innovation/proper improvements. Smh.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:37 2

4. Lamzaza (unregistered)


More RAMs always welcome

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:40

5. TechGirl90 (Posts: 300; Member since: 06 Feb 2017)


Seems like LG isn't the only one with Region Specific features.

I wonder if folks will react the same way they did with the LG G6, seeing that this is a different Brand Name that is reported of having 6 GBs of RAM available in one market, or if this will be glossed over and justified seeing that it's Samsung.

I personally don't care either way, as long as the device can hold to it's own, I don't see how this will cause pins and needles.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 09:14 1

22. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1268; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


Yes LG is the only one pulling features out for different regions... Samsung has been known to give the east 6gb of ram before as the article states... That's nothing new there... But if they gave wireless charging to one region, and 32gb of internal storage to another and giving others 64gb of internal storage, while leaving out wireless charging somewhere else is the issue with LG... Nice try though... Still no comparison...

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 09:54

30. TechGirl90 (Posts: 300; Member since: 06 Feb 2017)


There is still a comparison, Region Specific features is just that, Region Specific.

Is the Galaxy S8 with 6GB of RAM and 128 GB of storage coming to the US? No

Is China getting this Model as the Article clearly states? Yes

If this feature isn't going to be available in all global markets, does that make it fragmented? Yes

Is there any inbetweens with this situation? No

And thank you, I do indeed try, as well as you be doing the same. :)

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 09:59

31. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1268; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


No there isn't any in between with this because we knew that Samsung already gave the east that configuration with other handsets... LG just decided to pull features they already offered on this side of the pond with previous handsets and vice versa... You're not seeing the bigger picture here and you're just trying to justify the bs LG pulled... Again... Nice try, I respect your resilience though

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 10:15

38. TechGirl90 (Posts: 300; Member since: 06 Feb 2017)


To cut production costs, that's why! if LG was to implement all those features (Water Resistance/DAC/Wireless Charging/ 64GB) into one device, you'll have people crying up the wazoo about the pricing!!

And they didn't just decide either, LG claimed they posted a survey to see what people wanted into their device in each market, and made a conclusion based on that analysis.

You're not seeing the bigger picture here and you're just trying to justify that this isn't a Region Specific matter and in the same breath saying that you already knew Samsung would do this, ok, so you knew, that still doesn't change the fact that this is fragmented and only the Chinese Market will take advantage of this feature and nowhere else.

Again, thank you, I do indeed try, as well as you be doing the same, I too respect your resilience.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 11:46

42. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1268; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


To cut production cost indeed because LG knows they can compete with the big dogs anymore... To many mistakes have been made... That's the difference here... They have to cut features that you would normally get with other oem's World Wide. Samsung is giving the east something they've always had... LG is cutting out features they've offered to people already... See the difference...???

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 12:05

44. TechGirl90 (Posts: 300; Member since: 06 Feb 2017)


I see the difference, but the fact still remains that the fragmentation is there, and that LG isn't the only OEM who have done this, that's the point I'm trying to make, regardless of "Samsung is giving the east something they've always had".

LG had no choice, unfortunately they don't even have a quarter of the same Revenue Samsung has to implement all their features into millions of their Smartphones to distribute them worldwide.

I'm sure LG wanted to make sure everybody gets the fair treatment of having the DAC/Water Resistance/64GB/Wireless Charging, but they didn't want the price to be compromised, sacrifices had to made, whether it benefits them or not once this Device is Officially available for purchase remains to be seen.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 12:18 1

45. trojan_horse (Posts: 4654; Member since: 06 May 2016)


"To cut production cost indeed because LG knows they can compete with the big dogs anymore..."

I guess you meant to say "LG knows they CAN'T compete"... not '"can".

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 14:28

46. Mreveryphone (Posts: 1268; Member since: 22 Apr 2014)


Right... Meant to say "CAN'T COMPETE"...

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:40 3

6. darkkjedii (Posts: 24444; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Each unit should have 6 gigs, and an Exynos CPU. All this different RAM and chipset depending on regions crap sucks. Same goes for Apple and whoever else does this.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:49 1

10. Tyrion_Lannister (unregistered)


Actually, it makes pretty good sense from a business standpoint. I or most others outside China simply don't care about 6GB RAM, and would rather have cost reduced. Chinese people on the other hand value the spec-sheet highly and since other Chinese vendors are giving 6GB RAM, Samsung can't afford to put a 4GB phone there.

About putting Snapdragon and Exynos, the simple reason is the CDMA support on Sprint and verizon in US. Samsung had to have external modem on S6 when it gave Exynos in US, and it sucked big time due to standby drain. It won't repeat the same mistake again.

There will always be variations across regions. And believe me, people in US have it better than most. You guys have high income per capita along with strong dollar and very low tax on products.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 09:48

28. darkkjedii (Posts: 24444; Member since: 05 Feb 2011)


Nahhh...they can do it. You can bet, savings are the reason not to.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 10:09

34. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14118; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


But what are they saving? RAM is just chips. The chips use a certain amount of material which comes at a certain cost.

If you stripped away the outside of a chip to get to the silicon inside, a 6GB piece of material will look exactly the same as 4GB or 2GB.

Considering the size of the die, it doesn't cost MORE to fabricate.

Save what money? They stand to make MORE money.

If they had put 6GB in the S8+, that means they will charge more for it. Thus they will make more money. This will also make the model more attractive. And since in the US, we still basically buy phones on contract and the cost is broken over 24 months, then ANYONE in the USA could but the phone. We are talking adding $40 roughly to your bill to get a very nice phone.

I feel we are gettign gimped and I'm criticizing Samsung for it, just like I would so any other OEM who skimps on stuff, but then wants to charge a lot of money.

The Galaxy S and Note has lots of advanced features. Considering all the bloatware from both Samsung and carriers, more RAM is actually needed.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 10:00

32. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14118; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


But the cost isnt being reduced. The S8's are goign to cost more. IN fact the base S8 will cost more than the S6 edge+ did.

What many dont seem to get is whether the die has 2GB, 4GB, 6GB or 8GB; it costs Samsung who fabricates their own chips the same price.

I've already posted links to what the RAM and Internal flash cost on the open market.

256GB of Internal store cost about $5 per 1M, but we get charged mor than $100 by the OEM.

Right now, all top end phones liek the S8+ and the Note at the leats shoudl come standard with 128GB and still support SDcards.

The base S8 with 64GB I think fair to keep the cost down for what would be the most sold model as an entry level price.

But for us who have the jack to pay more and want more and do more with our phone and we are trying to buy a phone with those top features, it should also have top hardware.

The S8+ or Note 8 should both be 128GB Storage and 6GB RAM because of the extra features and capabilities and since these are top tier items and Samsung should be trying ot lead the industry in the direction of giving more vs piece-milling us like the video game industry did in the 80's.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 09:47

27. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14118; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


The US uses SnapDragon because of better compatibility with US networks. Even though the Exynos was made to work in the S6, the Exynos works harder and thus cause more battery drain.

After all we know the Exynos does work, but Samsung didn't use SD because of the overheating issue, which obviously was not fixed which is why the S20 has a heatpipe, which to me doesn't help. But a video shows it does.

I agree though. They shoudl all be 6GB. They should all be 128GB for what its going to cost, especially since its costs Samsung nothing to simply put 6GB on a single die. In fact I would guess it costs exactly the same to fabricate no matter how much RAM is on the die.

The US is the biggest market. We should get all the benefits FIRST before anyone else.

Samsung will sell more phone in the US just on pre-order vs all the phones they sell in China period.

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 05:44

8. Arch_Fiend (Posts: 3367; Member since: 03 Oct 2015)


China numba wan!!!

posted on 16 Mar 2017, 10:09

35. TechieXP1969 (Posts: 14118; Member since: 25 Sep 2013)


Cute!!

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