Huawei workaround could allow Mate 30 users to install Google apps on open-source Android

Huawei workaround could allow Mate 30 users to install Google apps on open-source Android
What operating system will Huawei use for the Mate 30 series? After all, Google said late last month that it will not license the Google Play services version of Android to the Chinese manufacturer for use with its next flagship series. That also means that core Google apps like the Play Store, Google Maps, Google Calendar, and Google Search will not be available for the Mate 30 line. That's because Huawei was placed on the U.S. Commerce Department's Entity List in May, preventing the company from accessing its U.S. supply chain. Huawei had licenses for some of its recent models that were granted prior to May 16th when the ban was announced.

It was originally thought that Huawei would replace the Google Play services version of Android with its own creation; after all, there had been rumors going back a few years that Huawei was developing its own OS as a potential Android replacement. Last month, Huawei introduced HarmonyOS, but this is not going to be used on the Mate 30 series. Today, MyDriver reports that Huawei founder and CEO Ren Zhengfei admitted that the company has not yet even considered how to get HarmonyOS to run on a mobile phone. Ren points out that building a phone-based ecosystem for HarmonyOS will take some time. He did point out that the software is ready now for smartwatches and smart TVs.

Huawei is working on a way for Google's Android apps to run on the open-source version of Android

At IFA in Berlin last week, the head of Huawei's consumer group, Richard Yu, said that while HarmonyOS could be used on a phone, it is not a priority for the company. But Huawei will have to come up with a replacement for the Google Play services version of Android and Google's core Android apps. Last week, there was a report that ProtonMail could include its encrypted email app in Huawei's AppGallery. As for replacing Android, well, there is always the open-source version of the operating system similar to what Amazon uses for its Fire Tablets. And Yu noted that Huawei is working on a workaround that will allow Google apps to be installed on the open-source version of Android.

The latest reports also indicate that the foldable Huawei Mate X will also be in the same predicament as the Mate 30 line is in. With two of its major releases for the second half of this year not able to use Google's licensed version of Android and its core Android apps, sales outside China are bound to take a hit. Last year, Huawei shipped 206 million handsets with roughly a 50-50 split between domestic and foreign deliveries. Research firm IHS Markit believes that the company will ship 88 million handsets out of China this year, a decline of 13-15 million from the prior year. Huawei's Yu said that before the U.S. ban, Huawei was hoping to ship 300 million phones in 2019.

However, Huawei has been kept afloat by strong domestic sales. During the second quarter of 2019, the manufacturer shipped 37.3 million units in China, up 31% over the same quarter last year. That gave the company a domestic market share of 38.2%, more than twice as large as the 18.3% share earned by Oppo. Part of the reason for this is a rise in patriotism that many Chinese consumers are feeling as a reaction to what they perceive as bullying by the Trump administration. Of course, the phones themselves are the biggest reason for Huawei's domination in China. Huawei has been on a roll since the launch of the Mate 10 Pro in 2017.

And that brings us back to the Mate 30 and Mate 30 Pro. Both phones will be unveiled on September 19th and Huawei will certainly have to reveal which operating system will be running the phones at that time. We'd bet on the open-source version of Android. As for next year, Richard Yu says that if Huawei is still banned from using Google's version of Android, it might consider installing HarmonyOS on the Mate 40 series.



1. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

I’m here for it, whether it’s running Google Mobile Services, an open source version of Android, or HarmonyOS (doubt it will be running HarmonyOS, though). I am interested to see Huawei’s workaround for adding Google apps. It’s a real shame that Huawei is caught in the middle of this political BS and propaganda, as the real users are the consumers, having now to have our choices forcibly limited.

8. Cyberchum

Posts: 1099; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

Why you are just doubting that it'll run HarmonyOS when everything says it won't beats me. Funny. They're caught-up, alright. You kept on repeating the same line on every article; doesn't it get tiring?

12. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

The pain that my comments are causing you in a certain area on your body is duly noted. I can recommend a certain cream for what ails you, as well as a certain Internet Form where you can make note of your displeasure of the pain this comment has caused you.

41. Cyberchum

Posts: 1099; Member since: Oct 24, 2012

Cause me pains? Lol. Not in a lifetime will I let you do that. Whatever makes you happy, mate. Even if it's flooding, go for it!

42. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Lmao clearly it has, or you wouldn't have bothered to make your initial response, mate.

19. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I see that I'm not the only one who is seeing a repetitive pattern here. Of course he's going to give himself a thumbs up with his other accounts.

20. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

You mean like your repetitive patterns of attacking Huawei every chance you get? Dial down the hypocrisy. And you are known multi-account user (most are banned now), so don’t project your ways onto me.

28. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

No, I mean like your repetitive patterns of attacking the Pixel just because your Pureview wasn't up to par and I made you run from it to the OnePlus while you continue to ride the Huawei apologists bandwagon. And don't try to project your multiple accounts thing on me. This is the only account I have ever had. Stop making stuff up.

35. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

No, you really mean YOUR repetitive attacks on Huawei, Nokia, LG, and BlackBerry, all because I favor them. Let’s not talk about something not being up to par, because I made you abandon the flagship Pixels and jump on the OnePlus and Nokia bandwagon, which you now have returned to being a Pixel apologist with the midrange Pixels and riding the Google bandwagon. And EVERYONE here knows who you really are and how many accounts you’ve had here. You’re only fooling yourself by making up otherwise.

51. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Giving my honest opinion isn't attacking. You're just mad because I say things that contrast with your biased opinions and I don't back down to your bs. You didn't make me abandon anything but I like how you suddenly changed your tune about me having experience with the Nokia phones. You're a hypocrite who has multiple accounts giving your comments a thumbs up.

56. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Those aren’t your honest opinions. You attack them because others favor them. You’re just mad because I say things that contradict your biased views and BS, and you always back down and run off in the end. Of course I made you abandon the flagship Pixels, because I kept pointing out that they aren’t up to par. And you being on the Nokia bandwagon doesn’t mean you have experience with their smartphones. There is a difference. You’re the real multi-account hypocrite here, and that’s why you keep getting called out for it.

2. ijuanp03

Posts: 630; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Huawei sure knows how to lie telling everyone they will use a new OS that can compete with Google. Turns out they will just use a forked version of Android. I'm not sorry for the CEO for being arrogant and now trying their way to still use Android apps.

4. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I agree. They are very shady.

5. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

There is no completion between Huawei and Google. Huawei makes better smartphones than Google does, and they sell more than Googles by far. Huawei also went on record as saying that they aren’t using HarmonyOS as of now for smartphones, so I don’t know what you’re getting at.

23. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Lol, there's so much "completion" in the smartphone world. First of all, that's YOUR opinion, not a fact. Just because YOU think Huawei is better, spoiler alert they aren't, doesn't mean that someone else is going to think the same thing. You're not the only one who is entitled to an opinion.

26. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Lmao Google isn’t competition for Huawei. This is a FACT that’s based on many things, such as smartphone comparisons, feature set in said smartphones, as well as how large Huawei is compared to Google in relation to what Huawei has their hands in compared to Google. Your “opinion” does not equate to the facts. Stop being emotional and use the facts about each company and what they have done, are doing, and what they are capable of to make an informed decision. New flash: You don’t have to agree with the truth for it to remain the truth.

29. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Not my fault if autocorrect failed you in your moment of trash talking. Spend less time being a RHT and more time getting your words right. Did you just say that Google, a company with a huge reach compared to Huawei who only has a footprint in the technology industry? You're just blinded by your own opinion trying to pass it off as a fact. Maybe you should take your own advice and stop being so emotional over something so trivial. Let it go. News flash, you don't have to go against everything just because it conflicts with your own opinion. You are not the only person who exists that uses tech so get over it.

36. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Lmao when you learn to use proper punctuation when you’re being a MAT that trash talks, look me up. Huawei has a HUGE footprint in SEVERAL areas of the technological industry, with larger headquarters, and a whole college. They spend more on R&D than Google does, and has far more employees dedicated to it. What Industry does Google reach outside of advertising and data mining that Huawei doesn’t? You’re blinded by your fanboyism to the facts. You should definitely take my advice and stop being so emotional and try to apply more logic, and stop being so immature as to attack everything I favor simply because I favor it. Let it go. Get over it. And who said I’m the only person to use tech? You sound ridiculous making stuff up now.

50. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Hey man, no need to get mad at me just because you mistook completion for competition. Lol you're the only one who is getting emotional about it. Maybe you should take your own advice and not get so worked up about what Google is doing in relation to the subject at hand.

57. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Dude, no need to her all upset and flustered because you still don’t know when to apply punctuation. You’re getting unnecessarily emotional about it, lol. You really need to take my advice and stop getting so triggered about Huawei and other vendors who’s phones you don’t use are doing, and focus on your favorite OEM not being able to launch a smartphone without continuous issues.

16. S4NDY

Posts: 263; Member since: Mar 14, 2016

when Huawei has said that They using Harmony OS only if Android is blocked from them. Nowhere has it been said that the Mate 30 would use it, it is not ready yet

3. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

If Huawei wouldn't have been in cohorts with the Chinese government along with being a shady company, they wouldn't be in this predicament. It's not political propaganda bs or anything that's forcing us to have less choices. I have plenty of different OEMs and devices to choose from that are miles better than what Huawei could provide.

6. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Google, Apple, Microsoft, and Facebook, to name a few, are cohorts of the U.S. government, with backdoors in their products, so let’s dial down the hypocrisy of calling one company “shady”. And instead of choosing excerpts of my comments to place in yours as a way of trying to disprove what I said, why not respond to me directly? It’s definitely political BS and propaganda that has Huawei in the middle of this, as you still cannot provide solid proof of Huawei doing what you say they have done. And one less OEM to buy from in the U.S. because of this BS is indeed out choices being forcibly limited. Literally. And NO, there aren’t any OEM’s “miles better....” than Huawei. There is a reason why they are the #2 smartphone OEM in the world.

24. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

Where in my comment did I say or imply that they were innocent? Stop making crap up and deflecting from the point. Dial down the hypocrisy you say, you first. Why don't you stop being paranoid. I never mentioned your name at all and I'm certainly not afraid to put you in your place each and every time you post. It's not political bs. You act like Huawei was a major player in the US. They aren't. They're only big in China. Once again, stop trying to twist things to further your Huawei Defense agenda. Yes there OEMs who are miles better than Huawei. Opinion remember.

25. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

No one said that you did say they were innocent. Stop changing the facts to suit your false narrative. But it is hypocritical to keep pointing the finger at Huawei about being shady and working with their government when your favored Google is doing the same thing you claim Huawei is doing. And stop deflecting from what? This article isn’t about whether Huawei works with China or not, so you are the one that deflecting from the entire article. Why don’t you own up to what you’re doing for once. It’s clear as day that you were referring to me with your comment. If you’re not afraid, then address me directly the first time and stop with the potshots. You’ve never put me in my place, as you are the one that usually runs off the articles. This one will be no different. It is political BS, and anyone with a modicum of what’s called “thinking for yourself” can see it. I never once even pretended that Huawei was a “major player in the U.S.”, much less acted like it, but let’s not pretend like a choice isn’t being forcibly removed. They aren’t “only big in China”. They have a large presence in Europe as well, as well as big enough presence in India through their Honor Sub Brand. Once again, stop trying to twist things to further your Huawei Hater agenda. NO, their aren’t OEM’s that are miles better than Huawei. Opinions don’t equal facts.

30. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

But you brought them up implying it. Don't try to backtrack now. Own up to what you said instead of chickening your way out. Google isn't stealing data for a communist country. Yes, Google has a crap ton of data on us, but most of that data is aggregated for marketing purposes to show you relevant ads. You don't HAVE to use Google services. You don't have to use Facebook. You're just trying to backtrack after getting called out. I'm addressing you right now and I addressed you multiple times in this article. Quit make sh- up already. You are just being paranoid just because you think you are the center of the universe. Newsflash, you aren't important. You're just someone I continue to bury on a daily basis. I'm not running at all. It's not political bs. That's just your bias talking. Again. A choice isn't being removed considering the fact that there are so many devices available for consumers that isn't from a shady company that is looking to give up your data to their own country. They are not as big as you think. Stop trying to make Huawei something that they are not. There are many OEMs that are better than Huawei. You can't say otherwise and call it a fact.

37. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

I never implied anything, I pointed out facts, so stop changing the facts to suit your false narrative. And let’s not talk about chickening out when you rather take sneaky potshots than address me directly, lol. Google is taking your data, whether you realize it or not. Them doing it when you don’t know is or without consent is stealing. Whether it’s for a country that’s communist or not isn’t the point. They are doing it for a government that doesn’t give 2 fcks about its own citizens. You sound like a Google apologist on high defending what they do and deflecting from it. And the same way you say you don’t have to use Google services, you don’t have to use a Huawei smartphone. You’re just deflecting and backtracking after being called out. Lmao the only reason you’re addressing me now is because I called you out on your potshots. If I never did, you’d be very content with not doing so, so cut the BS. You use the same exact words phrased the same way I put them to sneak shots at me, and play the victim role when it gets pointed out. Newsflash: You’re not fooling anyone when you do that. All you wind up doing is deflecting and playing the cowardly victim role, and then you eventually run off when the verbal lashing becomes too much for you to handle. It is political BS. You saying is not is you just having your bias talk for you again, as well as allowing yourself to be spoon fed all of this propaganda. If something is taken away that was once freely and by consumers, it’s a choice being removed. There is NO LOGICAL WAY you can it’s not. It’s the very definition of choice being removed, no matter how many other choices are out there. You really are making this up as you go along to defend your bias. ALL of these companies are shady, companies like Google allow backdoors onto their products so the government can steal your data, so dial down the hypocrisy. Huawei is much bigger than you’ll ever care to admit. Stop trying to make them something that they are not. There are not “many” OEM’s that are better than Huawei, and I can factually say this based on measures metrics.

49. Venom

Posts: 3782; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

So much bs. No wonder you throw the word "political" around so much because you spew more bs than a politician. You think I'm not aware Google tracks information on me? Guess what, I signed up for it when I read the Terms and Conditions. You claim that they do it without consent, yet they flat out tell you in multiple ways in various services. Yes, I can shut off my location services, my Google accounts, etc. but then again I'm not a paranoid, whiny RHT that cries about what Google is doing. And it's hypocritical that you continue to deflect by bringing Google up because you are using their services on the Android phones you claim to have. You are a fake, biased RHT that deflects and projects whenever you're called out. And for the record, you are nothing more than anonymous user. Why would I even be remotely afraid of addressing you? Do I dangle the carrot in front of your face just to yank it back and watch you scramble for it, yeah I do but only because you are the one who continues to try and pick a fight you can't win. You've been doing it for the two years I've been coming here in some petty misguided feud that you wanted to start. Not my fault if you're hitting rock bottom from getting buried in the ground so much. If Huawei didn't have such a shady reputation, they would still be available for sale in the US for the few people who even care about their devices. Plain and simple. Consider yourself fact checked. Again.

58. meanestgenius

Posts: 22388; Member since: May 28, 2014

Pot, meet kettle. If you knowingly signed up to be tracked and have your information farmed out to 3rd party vendors, then it’s hypocritical for you to attack any OEM that you claim does the same. And there are plenty of times when Google does it without your consent that aren’t listed in any terms and conditions. That’s why they are in trouble with the government now. You shutting off your location services does not prevent Google from tracking you, or your phone from listening to you even when you haven’t used the “wake word”. You claim Huawei is doing this, but hypocritically give Google a pass for it. Good thing I’m not some paranoid, hypocritical, whiny MAT that cries about what Huawei is doing. And it’s hypocritical for you to deflect and bring up other OEM’s like Huawei when Google is at fault. I don’t claim to own anything that I do not. That’s why I’m not afraid to post proof of ownership, unlike you. You’re a fake, biased, hypocritical MAT that deflects and projects whenever you’re called out. If I was nothing but an anonymous user to you, you wouldn’t have spent the energy on making 10 accounts to take cheap potshots at me and troll what I like. You don’t lay out any bait, but you get baited all the time, and it’s because you’re the one that chooses to continue to have issues with OEM’s because “I make a big deal about them.” You have said they, you know it was you, as well as several people on this site knows it was you that said it, but you’re going to deny it, as usual. I don’t pick fights I can’t win, but you do, and that’s evident by you running off in the end. You’ve been doing it for many years now, all because I favor what you don’t. Not my fault your way past rock bottom from getting buried below the earths crusts so much. Just because an entity isn’t allowed to sell or buy from a country, doesn’t mean their “shady” reputation is justifiably given. It’s clear to anyone with working eyes, ears, and a modicum of free thought that this is political BS, plain and simple. Consider your “fact check” and you fact checked....again.

9. mootu

Posts: 1537; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

"If Huawei wouldn't have been in cohorts with the Chinese government" So by your view Google should be banned as well, they have been working directly with the Chinese government for the last 2 years. Members high up in the US military even went public calling them traitors, why arn't they banned?

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