Apple is our role model for customer privacy says Huawei founder and CEO

Apple is our role model for customer privacy says Huawei founder and CEO
Huawei founder and CEO Ren Zhengfei told the Financial Times (via CNBC) that if his company is asked to unlock its devices by the Chinese government, he will follow Apple's lead and refuse to do so. The executive calls Apple his role model when it comes to protecting the privacy of its users. Last year, Apple CEO Tim Cook famously said that Apple will never make its customers the product. In addition, back in 2016 Apple defied a court order that demanded Apple unlock an iPhone 5c belonging to San Bernardino shooter Syed Farook. The company was fearful that if it created a special version of iOS that would allow the FBI to unlock Farook's iPhone, the software could find itself in the wrong hands threatening the privacy of all iPhone users. 

Ren points out that data is owned by Huawei customers and states that it is up to the carriers to track users, not the companies that manufacture phones. But Huawei's current placement on the U.S. Commerce Department's Entity List, banning it from obtaining U.S. parts and software despite comments to the contrary made by President Donald Trump, have nothing to do with privacy. The U.S. has concerns that under the laws of communist China, Huawei could be directed to spy on its customers by the government. And that has led to rumors that Huawei's products contain backdoors that will act as a conduit sending information to Beijing. Huawei has denied this repeatedly and company Chairman Liang Hua has offered to sign a "no-spy" document with any country.

Huawei's founder says U.S. micromanages its tech firms



The executive says that the Trump administration is off base with its concerns about Huawei and notes that the Chinese government manages private firms like Huawei through the use of laws and taxation. Ren also states that China doesn't intervene in Huawei's business operations. "I don't know why the US government micromanages its tech companies as much as they do," he says. "They act like a mother-in-law, and if they get too involved, their daughters-in-law might run off."


Because of the ban, Huawei is expected to see a huge $30 billion decline in revenue this year. The company will still be in the black, estimating profits of about $8 billion for 2019. However, the manufacturer has admitted that it won't top Samsung to become the largest smartphone manufacturer in the world next year. This has been a goal that Huawei has discussed since 2016. It shipped 206 million phones last year, third behind Samsung and Apple, and the 59 million units it delivered during the first quarter placed it second behind only Samsung. But the company has said that it will ship 40% to 60% fewer phones outside of China this year, pointing to total smartphone deliveries of 140 to 160 million units for 2019.


Last week, the presidents of the U.S. and China, Donald Trump and Xi Jinping respectively, agreed to a truce that temporarily puts a halt to the trade war between the two countries. Trump said that the Chinese agreed to buy "tremendous" amounts of U.S. agricultural products. He also revealed that "U.S. companies can sell their equipment to Huawei. We're talking about equipment where there's no great national security problem with it." However, it was discovered last week in an email sent by John Sonderman, Deputy Director of the Office of Export Enforcement, in the Commerce Department’s Bureau of Industry and Security (BIS), that Huawei remains on the Entity List and should still be considered "blacklisted." So far, no U.S. company has announced a plan to resume selling supplies to the beleaguered Chinese manufacturer.

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25 Comments

1. drunkenjay

Posts: 1699; Member since: Feb 11, 2013

I call BS on that one:https://www.ft.com/content/b37f0a9e-a07f-11e9-a282-2df48f366f7d And china now installing malware on every phone:https://www.cso.com.au/article/663656/china-spyware-border-targets-foreign-travelers/ this also targets people in hong kong and muslim areas. once huawei makes their own os, you're privacy will be held with the ccp.

3. S4NDY

Posts: 263; Member since: Mar 14, 2016

I'm more worry about US spying than China's We already have lot of US spyware in our phones, like Google, Facebook, Amazon, Microsoft. US Spying And Presenting The World Police are more bigger problem's than China P.S everyone spies on everyone

8. dimas

Posts: 3394; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Wow, so you prefer getting spied by someone who can use your credit card, steal your identity, stalk you and your family and will kill you if you say bad things about their government? You know that china's been breaching their agreements and policies with different countries today, right? I don't know what's going on with your head but sure are dumb to accept chinese espionage.

15. mahalo15

Posts: 84; Member since: Nov 30, 2018

There is a difference between someone spying on you to sell you some ads and someone trying to spy on you to punish you for things like posting "Winnie the Pooh" memes because the character looks like the president. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/07/china-bans-winnie-the-pooh-film-to-stop-comparisons-to-president-xi

13. dumpster666

Posts: 98; Member since: Mar 07, 2019

"target muslim areas"...I see nothing wrong in that....

25. jacky899

Posts: 431; Member since: May 16, 2017

drunkenjay, the news you posted is fabricated US propaganda. It is COMPLETELY UNREALISTIC AND UNFEASIBLE TO SCAN the entire phone and install malware for every visitor entering Xinjiang. First there are thousands of different phones people use, different brands, models, OS, firmware version, which would require different approach to scanning and hacking and no way they will have a large staff of trained pro hackers that can handle all of that. Also time wise, it is IMPOSSIBLE. Just look at the 10s security scans at our airports already causes a huge line and long wait. To fully scan a phone and install backdoors will take at least 1/2 hour per phone. Remember the US propaganda is historically known for fake news and deceit. The US fabricated fake news on a daily basis for two decades to justify the two Iraq invasions that killed millions of innocent Iraqis and tearing apart Iraqi families living out their peaceful lives. The first invasion in the 1990s was justified by Iraq's atrocities against citizens of Kuwait, claiming Iraq troops raped a number of women more than the entire Kuwait female population, killing babies, etc. etc. Even Kuwaitis later stated those accusations were fabricated. The second invasion against Iraq in 2003 was based on the justification of SOLID EVIDENCE that Iraq had a secret program developing weapons of mass destruction, among many other false accusations. The US media didn't even mention that no weapons of mass destruction or Programs for such were ever found after Iraq was bombed to smithereens, and that all of their other accusations were never found. https://billmoyers.com/2014/06/27/the-first-iraq-war-was-also-sold-to-the-public-based-on-a-pack-of-lies/ https://www.prwatch.org/books/tsigfy10.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony Recently, the US is trying to stir up hate for the Iranians by saying the Iranians blew up a Japanese ship an hour before the Japanese Prime Minister was to meet with Iranian leadership. Iran, who is desparate to remove unjustified economic sanctions and establish peace and trade with the rest of the world would never do something that stupid. Even the owner of the Japanese tanker that was destroyed is contradicting the US's claims. This is the kind of lies, the US uses to stir up hate, incite conflicts, and justify attacks against foreign people. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/japanese-tanker-owner-contradict-u-s-officials-over-explosives-used-n1017556 The things you are reciting about China are pure US propaganda. Even Edward Snowden leaked that the US funded the Al Qaeda subset responsible for inciting racial riots and conducting terrorist acts in the heavily Muslim populated Xinnjiang region of China.

29. Mike88

Posts: 438; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

I think Trump is a big part of an anti national mission.. He is the biggest enemy US ever had, same is with some other govt in the world like Russia, India, China etc

31. Plutonium239

Posts: 1239; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

The primary reason the US got involved in the first gulf War against Iraq was because Saudi Arabia wanted us there to protect them from Iraq.

2. Subie

Posts: 2415; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

So Ren says that US tech firms are micromanaged. Ok, but why won't guys like Ren be transparent about the function of the "Trade Union Committee" that controls Huawei investment and Holding. It could all just be smoke and mirrors... https://www.gizmochina.com/2019/04/19/huawei-not-owned-by-its-employees-state-ownership-likely-research-paper/

9. dimas

Posts: 3394; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

It's no surprise, people under chinese govt. will always say things different from their actions. Look at Jack Ma, after entering alibaba in nasdaq, he admitted being a communist member since 1980.

18. mootu

Posts: 1537; Member since: Mar 16, 2017

"So Ren says that US tech firms are micromanaged. Ok, but why won't guys like Ren be transparent about the function of the "Trade Union Committee" that controls Huawei investment and Holding." That paper is complete speculation with not a single actual fact just supposition from the 2 authors, the employee's get profit sharing so how is it not employee owned?

23. Subie

Posts: 2415; Member since: Aug 01, 2015

It's an opinion piece based on logical and deduction from the facts that they do have. And Huawei is also unable and or clearly unwilling to show any transparent "facts" as to how it is wrong. And employees receiving "profit sharing" means nothing towards ownership of a company. Companies can offer Bonuses, profit sharing, pension plans, etc. based on agreements or how the company structures it's benefits to employees. I receive profit sharing where I work and I assure you I have no say in how the company is run, nor do I have any ownership of it.

4. Mike88

Posts: 438; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

I think they are just bothering Huawei for no reason.. Google is spy itself and track all your info for their political mission. So if Huawei phones are unsafe its not the hardware it's Android itself and it's same with every other android phone.

20. daddyd302

Posts: 49; Member since: Jul 17, 2008

So you got a problem with Google for selling your info for money but you got no problem with China for sending people to jail for speaking out against the government?

33. Mike88

Posts: 438; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

I've problem with both that's why I use an iPhone. But Huawei is just a brand not Chinese govt. They may not provide any info to Chinese govt

5. VariableCheapskate

Posts: 185; Member since: May 29, 2019

Posturing for those who have an accolade in posturing, when both would be nothing without Google or even Microsoft. Sit down.

6. Mike88

Posts: 438; Member since: Mar 05, 2019

What are you talking about?? Google was barely a second or third place search engine before it decided to copy ios with Samsung and oems like Samsung, Sony and others made it popular by adding their own features in what was a very flawed insecure OS from the beginning.. Google forced its services in Android like Gmail, Google search, maps etc and defeated other search engines with its user base which came with Android. While Microsoft on the other hand is also going through difficult days losing customers in almost everything they have.. Apple didn't use someone to be the brand it is now and didn't copy another brand in providing revolutionary products since the beginning. The world won't lose anything if Google and Microsoft are vanished one day.

32. Plutonium239

Posts: 1239; Member since: Mar 17, 2015

Microsoft isn't losing customers, they keep gaining ground in the cloud computing sector and they retain their business customers. In the past couple years low end windows pcs sales have ticked up vs chrome books.

7. dimas

Posts: 3394; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

And the chinese govt. said that they are friends with other neighboring countries but build their military base in an island near malaysia, thailand and philippines. History prove that mainland chinese don't honor agreements. You can say all you want, huawei ceo. You might be a good man but you can't do anything when your govt. dictate you.

10. Galen20K

Posts: 578; Member since: Dec 26, 2008

As another person said on 9to5 Google, "Huawei CEO has zero credibility when it comes to human rights and respect for freedom. He does exactly what the Chinese Communist Party tells him to do. Period."

11. obedchuni

Posts: 338; Member since: Jun 16, 2014

Just trying to be Apple of China.

12. Demo-jay

Posts: 86; Member since: Feb 13, 2018

Some people still agree Huawei is spying Without proof too..Trump or the US doesn’t have any proof it’s spying but they got proof Facebook and google are spying

14. vgking9699

Posts: 205; Member since: Mar 01, 2019

Mean while the Chinese government micromanages all its citizens by banning google search, Facebook and other social networks as well as YouTube and recently banned Wikipedia

16. vgking9699

Posts: 205; Member since: Mar 01, 2019

GooglePlay App Store is also banned in China so people there are actually forced to vpns to make their phones act like they aren’t in China just to install google play to download other apps lol

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