Here's why T-Mobile, Verizon or AT&T reps don't really push the iPhone X
by Daniel Petrov / Dec 11, 2017, 2:43 AM
backlog in iPhone X deliveries from the get-go, which is just now starting to clear up. Here's what one rep, who had worked at all four carriers, had to say on the matter of spiffs:Reps, however, commented that the infamous spiffs (incentives) to sell one phone or another are overblown, and each carrier has its own strategy to spur sales with larger discounts which, however, usually go for a short list of underperforming in terms of customer interest handsets. Apple's phones are simply not one of those, plus there has been a
Those free phones that the salespeople might get after hitting the quota, however, are never iPhones. "If we do get them, they are rarely from T-Mobile. There may be an incentive to win a free phone from LG or Samsung if you sell x amount of said device," said one guy from Big Magenta. Thus, a stealth reason for not pushing Apple's phones like the X enough might be that Apple never goes into carrier stores to present their gear for reps, as it feels there is enough hype and demand anyway.
Last but not least, it also comes down to the rep's individual feeling about the handset - if they deem the iPhone X not that much different from the 8 or 8 Plus to warrant the price difference, they will say so to people who are on the fence. In a nutshell, the salespeople said, they will try to sell you anything that will let them be done with you faster, and move on to the next person, as oftentimes the commission is the same whether they sell an X or a feature phone with a plan. As per one Verizon quota performer:
Duly noted, but reps also commented that they don't want to cause customers the headache of switching to another mobile operating system. They warn users who want to go from Android to iOS that they will miss the consistent way to go back which on iPhones is all over the place, for instance. The same goes for those who tell them they want the latest Galaxy and are coming from iOS, too, who will miss their iMessage contacts, and have no iTunes purchases to resurrect. "Phones are investments. Why sell a phone the customer is not used to? Why curse them for 1 or 2 years? If you came to my store, I would explain the differences and make you see what you are deciding," ended one Verizon salesman on a high note. We'd have to add that then you also don't have to explain a whole lot of stuff to the Android or iOS newlywed, while there is a line in the store.
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Everyone wants money.... What has happened to the humanity..
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 2:57 AM 1
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There was love all around, then someone invented money. :)
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 3:00 AM 1
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Who ever they interviewed is full of it. I worked at verizon for close to a decade. They stopped phone spiffs and sell this many to get a free one a long time ago, at least 3+ years ago. The sales rep phone plans allows them to change their phones at least once if not upto 4 times a year.
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 6:31 AM 1
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And I never got a spiff as an AT&T rep for selling a certain phone. The only "sell this many and get one" promo I was offered was when the first Galaxy Note came out. If we sold 10 in the first 14 days of release, we got one.
posted on Dec 12, 2017, 4:20 PM 0
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Screw humanity. When you have people selling their organs for Apple branded products, I find it extremely hard to believe that there’s much else you can do to stop the temptation to exploit the demand.
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 6:46 PM 0
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How exactly do you pay your bills? Unless you're living a subsistence lifestyle in the middle of nowhere, you need to have money in order to buy food, housing, transportation, etc. As for this article, there's something else that's missing and that's how little meat is left on the bone by the time the iPhone reaches the customer. Remember how Best Buy got ripped a new one for charging more for iPhones bought at retail price up-front? There's a reason for this, and a reason why most independent dealers have to charge more: iPhones are oftentimes sold below cost. Ask any independent dealer (most cellphone stores are privately-owned) and they'll tell you. iPhones don't make money for anyone besides Apple.
posted on Dec 18, 2017, 1:57 PM 0
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I've found that most sales reps don't know what they're talking about in the first place. Then again most consumers don't know much about the phones they buy too.
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 4:06 AM 3
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I was surprised by this when I started working in the industry. Its almost like the higher in the company you go the less they know about the actual technology they're selling too lol. That's the state of these giant corporations right now tho, they don't care about what they sell or if it even works good for the customer. Just look at the apps and websites of most of these carriers they are terribly not optimized for businesses that have so much money. My local bank's app works about as good if not better than the MyAT&T app
posted on Dec 13, 2017, 6:59 PM 0
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That's rarely the case, I get to work with many of the us carriers and the incentives rarely sway reps from selling something other than what the customer asks for. Most of the reps see $1k phones down payment/taxes as a hurdle to sell accessories and that's essentially their concern
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 6:00 AM 4
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I work at a MetroPCS store and if a person buys a $29 Android phone compared to the $799 Iphone 8 Plus, we make the same compensation and commission. Stores would rather sell the $29 Android phone so it can break due to its bad quality so customers can come in within a few months to purchase another and make another commission. As with an Iphone most customers do not come back to make another purchase for another two or three years. Since they only spent a small amount of money they do not mind coming back and purchasing several phones within a year. I see this happen all the time. Also, there are spiffs still available via contests. For the month of December, LG has four prizes for store reps that sell the most amount of LG Phones. From Free Phones, to gift cards and LG Tone headsets. Its also true we do not want customers switching from Android to IOS or from IOS to Android as we are usually busy with customers. Answering all questions is impossible.
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 9:44 AM 1
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metropcs must work a lot different than the larger carriers then. I work at AT&T and we only make commission on phones when they're sold on a Next plan. If someone came in and bought a $29 Android phone over and over it wouldn't make me anything except annoyed lol. Even if I did have incentive to sell one phone over another I wouldn't, its not worth the customer being frustrated with the phone I sell them and 9 times out of 10 they'll just end up exchanging the phone if its not what they wanted anyway.
posted on Dec 13, 2017, 6:31 PM 0
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Oh no hope it go like Big Pharma. Pocket fillers to promote their product to the point we can't afford them. That is in the price to us I'm sure the give aways. They are going to get to a point they out price themselves and people use them forever without updating. If they keep the price as low as possible they will sell a whole lot more anyway just for the technology. Don't need to make us have to eat free phones in our prices.
posted on Dec 11, 2017, 10:20 PM 0
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