HTC Hima Ace and some Hima Ultra variants expected be powered by MediaTek processors

HTC Hima Ace and some Hima Ultra variants expected be powered by MediaTek processors
The often praised HTC One (M8) will soon have a successor, though this may not be called One (M9) - because HTC could be ditching this naming scheme. Right now, the upcoming smartphone is referred to as the HTC Hima, and we heard that we might see a Hima Ace, and a Hima Ultra version being released alongside the regular model.

According to @upleaks, the Hima Ace will be powered by a MediaTek processor. This kind of makes sense, as the Ace is expected to be a cheaper, plastic-made alternative to the regular Hima - which should feature a 64-bit Snapdragon 810 processor. As for the Hima Ultra, it’s said that “at least” its China-bound variant will also have a MediaTek heart inside.

Seeing that the regular HTC Hima should sport a 5-inch 1080p display, the Hima Ultra could have a larger screen with a higher resolution (Quad HD, anyone?). That, however, is pure speculation.

HTC could announce the Hima in the first quarter of 2015, not at CES or MWC, but during a separate event.

Since earlier this year, HTC is already using MediaTek chipsets for its smartphones: handsets like the Desire 310, Desire 516, and Desire 820s are all powered by processors from the Taiwanese chipmaker (with the 820s featuring an octa-core, 64-bit model).

Naturally, we’ll be keeping a close eye on all the HTC Hima-related rumors, and get back to you when new details are available.

HTC Hima Ace and some Hima Ultra variants expected be powered by MediaTek processors

source: @upleaks

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28 Comments

1. hafini_27

Posts: 942; Member since: Oct 31, 2013

Are Mediatek chips good in terms of performance and apps compability? Haven't play around with any smarphones that have them.

3. deanylev

Posts: 234; Member since: Mar 11, 2014

Their CPUs are top notch, but where they fall short is in GPUs. That's what holds them back. If memory serves me app comparability is perfect as they use ARM Cortex cores, which are standard. Only custom cores (other than Krait) like Denver have problems. I may be wrong but I believe I'm right.

4. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

if you are looking for performance check out lenovo vibe x2 it has mediatek 6595 HTC hima ace will most likely have mt 6575 .. which will be as powerful as snapdragon 810 .. only gpu would be weaker but hey you'll get the same performance of SD 810 at a very less price

5. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

Did you mean mt6795? It still far weaker than than SD810, it only uses octa A53 compared to quad A57 + quad A53 in SD810.

8. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

ohh sorry yes i meant Mt6795 i am pretty sure you must have read that info from wikipedia which is presenting wrong information .. Mt6795 is supposed to be a 64 bit variant of Mt6595 Cortex A53 + Cortex A57 you want to know the reason ? because they already have Mt6752 which is octa core Cortex A53 which is designed for main stream market.. while Mt6795 is designed for Power users and premium market ( same as mt6595 ) mediatek hasn't disclosed it officially what combination of processors they are using , so somebody at wikipedia has wrongly assumed the specs .. check out the capabilities of the chip http://www.mediatek.com/en/news-events/mediatek-news/mediatek-launches-64-bit-true-octa-core-lte-smartphone-soc-with-worlds-first-2k-display-support/ Mt6595 was Cortex A17 + Cortex 7 Cortex A7 is succeeded by Cortex 53 cortex A17 is succeed by Cortex 57 so trust me ,.. it will perform same as snapdragon 810 just look at Mt6595 it performs same as Snapdragon 805

9. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

Wrong again. mt6795 doesn't have any A57 cores, it's a pure octa A53. mt6795 is not for power user since it only uses power efficient CPU and the GPU is weakest variant of Mali-t760(it's Mali-t760 MP2 and only have quarter the power compared to the Mali-t760 MP8 in the Exynos 7). And also, Cortex-A57 is the successor to A15, not A17.

10. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

ohh man looks like you need a detailed explanation.. fine here goes keep in mind mediatek hasn't officially stated what GPU they are using and what cores they are using.. check their official site no mention of anything.. http://www.mediatek.com/en/products/mobile-communications/smartphone1/mt6795/ its only wikipedia that is mentioning it and it is wrong and here is why fact 1 - they have 3 products Mt6732 for entry level Mt6752 for mid ranger Mt6795 for premium users .. it is impossible that Mt6795 is Octa Core Cortex A53 because They already have an Octa Core Cortex A53 and that is Mt6752 so why will they release 2 same products with different naming scheme.. ? if you say its because of clock speed difference .. then no because to differentiate between clock speeds they use words like turbo and M .. for eg - 6589 and 6589T and 6589M 6592 , 6592M and 6592T Secondly Mt6795 is their premium product .. this is a fact check this Official line from Mediatek http://www.mediatek.com/en/news-events/mediatek-news/mediatek-launches-64-bit-true-octa-core-lte-smartphone-soc-with-worlds-first-2k-display-support/ "The MT6795 is currently set to be the first 64-bit, LTE, True Octa-core SoC targeting the premium segment, with speed of up to 2.2GHz, to hit the market" and "Coupled with 4G LTE support, MT6795 completes MediaTek’s 64-bit LTE SoC product portfolio: MT6795 for power users, MT6752 for mainstream users and MT6732 for entry level users." see you know half facts.. Cortex A17 is the successor of Cortex A12 .. Cortex A17 ends up performing similar to Cortex A15 while consuming very less power, as Cortex a15 was very power hungry earlier .that is why qualcomm named it cortex A17 .. while its not a direct successor to cortex A15 but it performs same as Cortex A15 while consuming less power.. so Cortex A17 is the highest performing 32 bit processor.. you want proof why don't you check benchmarks of Lenovo Vibe X2 ? it performs same as Snapdragon 805 and 32 bit exynos variant .. so you see Cortex A17 is essentially a successor to cortex A15 otherwise it wouldn't be able to match the performance of cortex A15 Now lets assume your claim that Mt6795 is an Octa Core Cortex A53 ? i think you will agree that an Octa Core Cortex A53 won't be able to beat a Snapdragon 805 or Mt6595 and here are the facts Fact 1 - Mt6795 is a premium product as stated by mediatek Fact 2 - Mt6795 is a successor to Mt 6595 so the implication of your claim will be that the successor model will end up being far weaker than the last years model which is totally ridiculous .. how can a successor be weaker than predecessor you are assuming that mt6795 has mali t760 Mp2 and has octa Core Cortex A53 can you please provide the link from official mediatek website where they explicitly state this ? anybody can edit wikipedia .. some ignorant person edited mediatek's page

11. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

and in order to exceed Mt6595 performance .. they will have to use Cortex A57 .. there is no other way .. so it is 100000000000000000 % guranteed that it will be a Quad core Cortex A53 + Quad core Cortex A57 challenging snapdragon 810 i hope you get it this time

13. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

mt6595 is also far behind in memory technology support, it only have Dual-channel LPDDR3 memory clocked at 933MHz(l don't know if the bus width is 32-bit or 64-bit) while SD810 have 64-bit dual-channel LPDDR4 clocked at 1600 Mhz.

12. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

l got your point. But still, Mediatek always use power efficient CPU and the weakest variant of GPU line. Judging from this habit, there's a high possibility that mt6795 will use octa A53 and Mali-t760 MP2

15. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

i agree with you on GPU part and that is why i said it my first post that GPU will be weaker than Snapdragon variant.. but regarding CPU performance i will disagree .. the proof is Mt 6595 .. just see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0a_eyIGgenE and they are providing this chip at mid range prices so i think users can easily compromise with a bit weaker GPU , especially since qualcomm counterpart at that price is Snapdragon 615 which does not have a powerful GPU.. Mt6595 is supposed to be in 300-400 $ phones remember this.. while sd 810 will end up in 700-800 $ phones that is why they use a bit weaker GPU to cut on cost.. mediatek's whole business is based on providing cheaper chips.. and in order to give high performing GPU they will have to increase their SOC prices .. which they cannot do it currently .. they need to win trust of major tier 1 OEM's first because qualcomm has a monopoly in high end right now with these tier 1 OEM.. slowly now they are tackling qualcomm premium chips and increasing their brand value .. once they win the trust of samsung,sony,htc in high end then they will be able to increase their prices of SOC and will be able to provide cutting edge performance in both CPU and GPU.. there is 0 possibility that 6795 will be an octa core cortex A53 as i explained in the last post .. regarding GPU it will obviously be better than Mali T760 Mp2 .. because it does support features like - 2K on device display (2560x1600) - 120Hz mobile display - 480fps 1080p Full HD Super-Slow Motion video feature so it will be much much better than Mali t760 MP2 for sure .. i am guessing atleast it will perform same as Adreno 330 does.. don't expect Adreno 420/430 like performance though.. GPU is weaker area for mediatek now

16. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

You should read comment #14........ Btw features like - 2K on device display (2560x1600) - 120Hz mobile display - 480fps 1080p Full HD Super-Slow Motion video feature is a job to ISP(Image Signal Processor) not GPU.

18. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

ohh thanks i wasn't aware of this part.. but its definitely not Mali T760 Mp2 for sure .. it is definitely better than that read post 17 as well

14. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

I think both of us are wrong, now l have discovered that mt6795 have G6200 GPU(it's still a weaker GPU compared to the competition). And it's confirmed that mt6795 uses octa A53 see the link :http://www.linleygroup.com/newsletters/newsletter_detail.php?num=5200

17. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

that's an old news by a research firm .. while i am not sure which GPU will they go for.. but i am 100 % sure that it cannot be an octa core Cortex A53 i don't know why are you doubting that, given the reasons i have stated its impossible.. a Successor cannot be weaker than predecessor ..and if that's wrong most likely the GPU news is also wrong.. this thing happened previously as well.. go and look out for articles when Mediatek 6732 and mediatek 6752 were launched if you check older articles you will see everybody reporting that these chips carry Mali T760 MP16 .. even wikipedia had that entry for months where it sated both 6732 and 6752 have 16 core Mali T760 Mediatek never officially stated that it had 16 core .. but still all research firm and news everywhere it was stated it has 16 core .. but now when it launched it ended up being MP2 only.. and now mediatek has officially said it is Mali T760 Mp2 .. so you see this is the same thing going on here.. until there is a word from Mediatek don't assume anything..

19. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

Yes, no one can't assume anything including you. You said earlier that you guaranteed that mt6795 would have quad A53 + quad A57, and now you are being trapped by your own words.

20. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

lol man i can't believe you after explaining in detail you still can't believe it.. i am not assuming anything its you who are assuming it.. i am giving mediatek words for it.. mediatek have themselves said it is a premium product.. and it is 64 bit there is nothing else to assume the only successor to that chip is possible with cortex A57 .. no other way .. are you seriously thinking that a company will launch a much much weaker successor than the predecessor ? that's a grandiose assumption considering it never happens in technology..

23. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

Well, Mediatek didn't say anything like Cortex-A57, big.LITTLE, and manufacturing process about mt6795. So I have to admit that I'm wrong, but also that's why I'm telling you that you can't guarantee that mt6795 will have quad A53 + quad A57.

25. nokia12

Posts: 610; Member since: Nov 19, 2013

there are only 2 possible choices .. 1) either the successor is going to be weaker than predecessor ( octa core cortex a53 ) or 2) or it will be quad cortex A53 + Quad cortex A57 ( to beat Mt6595 performance ) even a 2 x 57 + 6 x 53 won't be enough to beat 6595.. so it has to be 4x53 + 4x57 they don't make custom cores so that's out of question please enlighten me if there is a 3rd choice..its guaranteed because there is none other in case you still can't get what i am trying to say and think mediatek can't use cortex A57 then this should give you some confidence http://www.cnx-software.com/2014/12/11/mediatek-mt8173-quad-core-big-little-arm-cortex-a57a53-processor-code-submitted-to-linux-mainline/

26. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

Okay, you win ;)

2. Anshulonweb

Posts: 468; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

HTC might do so to bring the cost down in chinese market.... Chinese market is really price sensitive and mediatek are very cheap processors.... btw isn't snapdragon 810 having same cores(a57) as in mediatek??....i think just the GPU is different??.... can anyone confirm...

6. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

No, Mediatek only have octa A53 in their 64-bit chipsets.

7. tiara6918

Posts: 2262; Member since: Apr 26, 2012

could it be that the hima ultra will be cheaper than the flagship hima(successor of the m8)?

21. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

well sounds like a very good deal having the same CPU performance as SD 810 and a weaker GPU only for the price of SD615 is good for people who want some cheaper phones but only one major advantage for me: it is closed source like exynos, maybe more

22. HOOHH13

Posts: 22; Member since: May 25, 2014

what a disappointment by HTC ...

24. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

why is a disappointment? i was thinking like you, but look at it in another way. you will only lose a powerful GPU, but get almost the same CPU performance of SD810 but SD615, you will have a lower GPU AND CPU for the same price if mediatek is not to be used with the same price tag, they would have used SD615

27. memeON1

Posts: 34; Member since: Nov 26, 2014

If you're not into gaming then Mediatek will be good enough

28. mas39

Posts: 80; Member since: Jan 17, 2013

Please don't listen to these people Mediatek is a complete fail, sd810 is way better both for cpu and gpu, end of story.

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