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Future Nokia phones will not feature Carl Zeiss lenses

Future Nokia phones will not feature Carl Zeiss lenses

Posted: 06 Mar 2017, 02:23, by Plamen D.

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Future Nokia phones will not feature Carl Zeiss lenses

One of the most anticipated events at this year's MWC was the return of Nokia and its first batch of Android phones. This long-awaited comeback undoubtedly evoked a sense of nostalgia in longtime mobile fans, but most of them realize that the new operating system is far from the only change to occur with Nokia and its handsets.

As you may know, the Finnish company's mobile division was acquired by Microsoft in 2013. This high-risk move proved to be a lost bet, and Redmond eventually sold its feature phone business to current rights owners – HMD Global. Considering all of these changes, it shouldn't be surprising that you won't find many of the emblematic “old Nokia” features in the company's new products, and a recent Tweet from Nokia Mobile confirmed that we won't see the firm using Carl Zeiss lenses going forward:

@___Dhruv___ We're no longer using Carl Zeiss technology.
— Nokia Mobile (@nokiamobile) March 5, 2017

This Twitter enquiry also involved the PureView imaging technology that was exclusively used in Lumia devices, but it's important to mention that PureView is one of the things that Microsoft opted to keep when it sold its phone business to HMD.

While this indicates that we probably won't see a contemporary version of the Lumia 1020 and its massive 41 MP shooter anytime soon, it doesn't necessarily mean that Nokia will stop producing phones with great cameras. After all, our team got to check out the sensor on the new 3310 at MWC, and discovered that it is actually better than the camera of the Galaxy S7! Don't believe us? You can check out our totally unbiased and unexaggerated comparison here.

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posted on 06 Mar 2017, 03:33 1

1. FlySheikh (Posts: 417; Member since: 02 Oct 2015)

I for one would like a replacement for my old Nokia 808. It still takes nice pictures

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 03:38 2

2. alexvoda (Posts: 37; Member since: 11 Jan 2013)

I really don't get why Nokia sold the PureView division to Microsoft.
They could have kept that and be one of the 3 major smartphone camera suppliers (along with Sony and Omnivision).
If this market works for Sony it could have also worked for Nokia.
At Microsoft, that tech is just sitting there, not being used for anything.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:13

6. Settings (Posts: 2308; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)

Nokia probably can do better tech than Pureview.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:39 5

13. hemedans (Posts: 628; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)

1. Nokia was never camera supplier, they used internals of other companies
-sensor from Toshiba
-lens from Zeiss

2. pureview Technology still owned by Nokia, Microsoft only own trademark pureview. Nokia can make same Technology as pureview but they have to call it another name. Proof check Nokia ozo, professional vr camera it has many feature of pureview like HAAC mics

3. Pureview division is no more, very few people are with Microsoft and inventor (Juha Alkarahu) is with Nokia. Head of pureview now work at Land rover and Ui designer work with Apple.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 06:29 1

17. jojon (Posts: 356; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)

mm, i think MS kept Pureview for a reason, they ain't done yet. They were not gonna have a garage sale for a name like Pureview. I think you will find that again on a future Surface phone or such

posted on 07 Mar 2017, 04:03

25. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1236; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

Ms only owns the pureview name not the actual technology doe

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 03:44

3. Caveman723 (Posts: 22; Member since: 01 May 2014)

Whaaat? I'll crawl out of ma cave when i heard the next Nokia phone will not feature Carl-Zeiss anymore. Maybe they should collaborate with other camera lens manufacturer like Huawei does with Leica.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:01

4. Wiencon (Posts: 2019; Member since: 06 Aug 2014)

"like Huawei does with Leica."

So basically slapping Carl Zeiss logo on it and charge extra

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:05 1

5. Bondurant (Posts: 573; Member since: 04 Jun 2014)

Actually Huawei uses Leica lens and Leica is involved with the camera software development as well. Nice try tho..

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:22

8. ibend (Posts: 6632; Member since: 30 Sep 2014)

and their camera is great actually, but underated..
it could beat pixel in low light (inside lab, lol..)
mate 9 pro photo get more detail, and better color contrast than pixel
http://www.gsmarena.com/piccmp.php3?idType=5&idPhone1=8396&idPhone2=8345&idPhone3=8238
(don't bother to compare it with HTC10, OP3, or iPhone7+, they all sucks, lol..)

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 11:31

21. DoggyDangerous (Posts: 1001; Member since: 28 Aug 2015)

Wow. Mate 9 pro is taking photos with less noise and better quality.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:18 1

7. sip1995 (Posts: 1683; Member since: 07 Feb 2014)

At least they still have PureView technology.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:24 3

9. salami1980 (Posts: 43; Member since: 27 Dec 2016)

Nokia is just another Chinese brand, not less not more.

we loved Nokia back in time for:
1-Pure view camera.
2- Carl Zeiss lenses.
3-Clear Black display.
4- Good quality sound & Microphones.

I don't see that with the new fake Nokia

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:32 1

11. nokia12 (Posts: 580; Member since: 19 Nov 2013)

The New Nokais do come with Polarised filter on screen..

Good quality Sound is there with emphasis on the Amp chip..

And the build quality is great as ever...

the thing that is missing is CAMERA ... and that is where all the disappointment lies :( But this is HMD's first attempt , i hope they at least bring something competitive in Camera department..

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:34 4

12. SIGPRO (Posts: 1865; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)

What fake Nokia?
Do some research before you write something stupid!
HMD Global that is in charge of the new Nokia phones are ex Nokia and Microsoft employees, they are based in Finland!
Yes the phones are made in China like many Android phones and iPhones!
So you made a fool out of yourself here!

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 13:18

22. salami1980 (Posts: 43; Member since: 27 Dec 2016)

you are the one who saying stupid things

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:43 3

14. hemedans (Posts: 628; Member since: 01 Jun 2013)

new Nokia has clear black display Technology but they cant use that name because Microsoft own it, they just said polarised layer.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 05:33

15. Z..... (banned) (Posts: 355; Member since: 01 Feb 2017)

Wtf is wrong with Nokia making cheap trashy mid and budget phones. Forget about Wp, that was crap. Didn't like it like IOS, though Wp OS is better than IOs.

Nokia needs a flagship phone to come back.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 04:30 1

10. zac89 (Posts: 14; Member since: 18 Jan 2016)

Hahaha I guess there is no reason to get Nokia phone any more... For me premium camera was one thing that was tempting to make me buy new premium Nokia phone whenever it comes out... so stupid...

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 06:23

16. jojon (Posts: 356; Member since: 11 Feb 2014)

Hmm, not good..no pureview name, no Zeis optics, no mention of wireless charging, even lost Here. You know what, might see if i can still get a Lumia 950. Only starting to realize what great phones the Lumias really were

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 07:25

18. remixfa (Posts: 14604; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

while that's a bit disheartening, hopefully they have something just as good if not better up their sleeve. I was really looking forward to a high end nokia with vanilla android and a hell of a camera/battery.

because that's exactly what I want in a phone.

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 09:28

19. SailfishOS (Posts: 94; Member since: 06 Nov 2016)

Well bye nokia. I was here for the phone camera

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 09:32

20. okinalex (Posts: 8; Member since: 02 Feb 2017)

I dont care about Carl Zeiss lenses, what makes diference is PureView technology

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 13:49

23. pixelated (Posts: 74; Member since: 03 May 2015)

If Nokia won't use their PureView tech in flagship models then I'll never give any thought to Nokia. Done!

posted on 07 Mar 2017, 04:05

26. microsoftnokiawin (Posts: 1236; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

they said zeiss tech they still own pureview not the name but the tech silly

posted on 06 Mar 2017, 20:30

24. kevin007in (Posts: 37; Member since: 28 Oct 2015)

I hope HMD GLOBAL brings new innovations to the camera tech just like the original NOKIA did .Remember ,its HMD global using nokia NAME . nokia was best in camera R&D. good luck though. lets c what difference it makes without ZEISS .