Do you own a tablet? Have you upgraded it recently?

Tablets used to be the next "big" thing in personal computing. The device that is bigger and more powerful than a smartphone, but not as cumbersome as a laptop. Now, a few years later, phablets ate one side of the tablet niche, while super-light laptops and ultrabooks ate at the other.

So, the tablet market is stagnating. The Apple iPads are pretty much the only slates that one may say "sell well", and the Microsoft Surface Pro family of usper-powered tablets has its share of devout fans. But, in general, these are devices that rarely get upgraded, which is why many manufacturers who are still in the game have pretty wonky refresh cycles for them.

Do you currently own a tablet? And if yes, how old is it?

Have a tablet? How old is it?

I have a brand-new one
Mine is a year or two old
Have one, more than a couple of years old
Mine is ancient. Hey, I think it still powers up!



1. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

I have a brand new one, so yes, I upgraded recently.

10. sgodsell

Posts: 7368; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

The thing is phablets have cannibalized​ their respective tablet platforms. More so for Android because they can do all the same things as there bigger tablets can do with multitasking and split screen. Where as Apple's so called phablets have eaten into Apple's iPads as well. However iPads have split screen multitasking. Whereas no iPhone's currently have split screen multitasking yet. I bet you if Apple had real multitasking and split screen multitasking on iPhone's, then it would erode into Apple's iPads even more.

18. Nine1Sickness

Posts: 896; Member since: Jan 30, 2011

Not to bash tablets/phones, but there is absolutely no point in split-screen multitasking on a small 5-12" screen.

22. airoid

Posts: 128; Member since: Dec 13, 2016

But split screen on 16:9-3:2 is much better than 4:3 screen like ipad. Everything on iPad look skinny in split screen.

24. buccob

Posts: 2968; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

That is your opinion, however I have used it multiple times for convenience. Even my wife that is no expert use it frequently. My phone has a 5.2" display and hers is 5"

26. Well-Manicured-Man

Posts: 688; Member since: Jun 16, 2015

Do you mean split screen or picture in picture? I don't agree with you on split screen but more important is picture in picture in my opinion. The iPhone needs to get picture in picture.

31. buccob

Posts: 2968; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

I was talking about the native Split Screen in Android Nougat.... Coming from older Xperia devices with Small Apps (floating widgets) as a multitasking tool... I also though that split screen for this size would not be as useful, and there are times that I DO miss the small apps implementation, however Split Screen in Nougat is extremely well done and simple to use.... and I use it all the time for having a Whatsapp conversation + a Calculator.... Also if you use the native File Explorer (under Settings > Storage) you can use Split Screen with 2 windows and you can even drag and drop files from one location to another... just like what iOS 11 is promising on the iPad... so yeah... I also use it for Chrome, where you can turn a "new tab" into a "new window" and send it to the other side of the screen.... Finally the best way I have taken advantage of this solution was when I was working on a certain job on my computer, and use my phone projected to a TV while using Split Screen to cast a dual information window while I was working on the laptop.... I could have been achieved solely with the laptop however I already had all the info and conversation on my phone screens so it was a nice productive approach. I don't disagree that picture in picture would be useful, however the way it currently works on android is extremely satisfactory and simple to quickly get things done... a Picture in picture is more of a long session multitasking, whereas split screen is just to quickly copy/paste or do a side by side comparison.... etc.

38. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

The multitasking on the iPhone is as real as it can be.

39. buccob

Posts: 2968; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

How so? I mean can you actually perform multiple actions simultaneously and, by that i mean running things that you can have your focus on at the same time? In Android you can have truly running background processes (not only limited to first party apps), floating apps, split screen, widgets and advance notifications in certain apps... What 2 things can you do on an iPhone simultaneously? (don't tell me music and gps)

41. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Sync files, reply to messages, make voice/video calls, send/receive files, convert videos (while running the GPS - music doesn't work during calls). "Multi" means more than one, "tasking" means to do some tasks.

44. buccob

Posts: 2968; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

yes but there is nothing actually productive about what you just mentioned... that is basically standard for any device out there... Your definition of "Multitasking" only refers to the iPhones capabilities, NOT the USER ability to do multiple task at the same time... with Android, on the other hand, having a split screen, or a floating window gives you a productive edge and speed to get things done.... and the "Multitasking" ability is actually on the user side. its really been a while since the last time I saw an iPhone performing task simpler or faster than a comparable Android phone... And I don't mean benchmarking, I mean accomplishing real life task... If I am on a conversation, and somebody is talking numbers with me for a business, I am able to open the calculator on slip screen (or floating window) and be able to keep the conversation without closing either.... That's the real thing

46. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

So we are clear, iPhone is very well capable of multitasking, let's get to the second part of your assumption. The fact that you are used to the Android way of doing simultaneous tasks, means just that: you found something that works better for you. On the other hand, I can do tasks on my iPhone faster and better than on Android; for instance, I edit a video and I need to send a message in my last conversation; instead of pressing home, open the message app, enter the conversation and write, I pull the notification bar, I press a button and I'm there; instead of opening camera, take a picture, press share on whatsapp, I can simply 3D touch whatsapp icon and I'm there. Both ecosystems are great, some prefer one of them, some prefer the other; both sides need to understand that what is good for them should not necessary be good for everybody.

47. buccob

Posts: 2968; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

Still you didn't give any multi-tasking examples... you just showed 2 ways to do a faster action which is extremely biased to what you wanted to do... if I tell you that I have a native shortcut to instantly dial a number from my home screen.... it is something you couldn't do on iOS (you would need to go to the open apps and there you would find your most accessed contacts, non customizable)... You departed from the conversation to a specific place where you think it would have an advantage, however the truth is that multitasking has never been the fort of iOS, that is a fact. And going back to topic... it is the same reason why the iPad will not replace a laptop the way the Surface line (and surface-like devices) has.... And while for many people an iPad is more than enough... it still doesn't replace it for professionals, students, and the vast majority that actually need to get things done.

48. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Send a message WHILE I edit a video - 2 tasks - is not multitasking? Everything we have talked about is biased (except the fact that multitasking in iOS is real, which is an objective observation) and this is how it should be: I use what suits me better, you do the same; my device is better for me, yours is the same. Just like you have shown me a way to do a task better than on iOS, I have shown you a way in which iPhone does a specific task - while doing another - better than Android. I haven't found a use for tablets, iPad included (I was actually amongst the first persons that said they are useless and today I still believe that) especially now when laptops are so thin and good. Surface is a laptop in a smaller form factor; it's purpose is not to replace laptops but to widen the line of ultraportables.

49. buccob

Posts: 2968; Member since: Jun 19, 2012

Sure buddy... I am not arguing that your iPhone doesn't suits you better... Obviously you got it because it is your preferred device or platform... But objectively one platform is better at doing some things than the other and viceversa... and multitasking, while "present" on iOS, is not actually as good as on Android... However the entire experience will vary a lot from one OEM to another... Anyway, I am sure that you are happy with your device, as I am with mine... but iOS users tend to ONLY use iOS (and the reason is because it is actually a pleasant experience for them) but most also miss a lot of features and innovation that is present on other devices.... that is until Apple catches up.

50. Leo_MC

Posts: 7432; Member since: Dec 02, 2011

Multitasking is better on Android for the tasks you do and the way you are familiar with doing them; for the tasks I do, iOS is better at multitasking (and I gave you an example). I have said it again and again: I also have an Android flagship and there's nothing that I find compelling enough to use it as my main device, although there are some features I would like to have on my iPhone.

36. IronTech

Posts: 153; Member since: May 27, 2016

Surface for work! Tab S2 for reading! No reason to upgrade at all.

2. bucknassty

Posts: 1341; Member since: Mar 24, 2017

I had the HP touchpad, and the battery went completely dead (props, maybe cash to anyone who can get that fired up for me again... i loved that tablet) Now i have a 7 inch fire just because it was 30 dollars HAHAHA

15. Nine1Sickness

Posts: 896; Member since: Jan 30, 2011

I bought 8 of those fire tablets for my nieces and nephews when they were on sale for $30 two black Fridays ago.

3. scarface21173

Posts: 690; Member since: Aug 17, 2014

I like 8inch tablets nothing new really on the market to upgrade to, i have the tab s2.

4. cmdacos

Posts: 4209; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

Tab s3. Love it so far.

5. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1421; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

Have a Note 10.1 2014, still alive and kicking with decent performance, batterylife could be better.

6. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

Surface Pro 2, still no compelling enough reason to upgrade.

7. maherk

Posts: 6879; Member since: Feb 10, 2012

I bought a Tab S2, but I hated the screen ratio on it, so I ditched it for a used Tab S 10.5 and will never upgrade it until Samsung comes back to their senses and release a 16:9 flagship tablet.

29. Techist

Posts: 311; Member since: Jan 27, 2015

If it wasn't for the fact that my Tab S 10.5 was only 16GB and was continually giving me trouble with not enough space for the non-deletable preinstalled apps (despite the fact that I had a 128GB microSD card installed), I would have kept it until Samsung or some other Android OEM released another 10.5 inch tablet with up to date internals. But since I wasn't sure that was going to happen, I sold my Tab S 10.5 and replaced it with a Tab S2 with 64GB native storage. As from mid last year, I will not buy any device with less than 64GB native storage. I wonder what Samsung are thinking now that Apple have released a 10.5 inch iPad Pro. They should have stuck with that size all along, instead of copying Apple's 9.7 inch form factor which even Apple eventually realized is not ideal.

43. Fellwalker

Posts: 538; Member since: Apr 04, 2014

I feel exactly the opposite! I just stopped using my original tab s and bought a tab s3 SPECIFICALLY for the (IMHO) better screen ratio. I'm pretty upset that it only has 32GB,but there is no option for more .At least 32 allows me to install all my apps on native memory.

8. 47AlphaTango

Posts: 729; Member since: Sep 27, 2015

I have an ipad mini 2. Still is the useful tablet since its getting the latest ios version. Plan to get a samsung galaxy tab s3. and the ipad pro 12.9 256gb version.

9. JS132

Posts: 19; Member since: Oct 03, 2013

Still using my Motorola Xoom as a music player in my kitchen.

11. nikhil23

Posts: 443; Member since: Dec 07, 2016

Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.. really ancient

12. Abdbaas

Posts: 142; Member since: Apr 05, 2016

Surface pro 4

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