Disclaimer: OnePlus 5's telephoto lens doesn't do 2x optical zoom

Disclaimer: OnePlus 5's telephoto lens doesn't do 2x optical zoom
The OnePlus 5 has launched and, aside from a lot of hype and long, long lines at the pop-up events around the world, the phone's early days have also been a bit... bumpy. First, there was the controversy with the handset's actual design, being incredibly reminiscent of you-know-who. Then, the whole "benchmark cheating" ordeal. Now, there seems to be a bit of confusion around the telephoto lens' zooming capabilities.

See, OnePlus markets it as a 2x zoom and the camera app reiterates this with a neat 1x / 2x insta-switching zoom button. Since that's how the setup on the telephoto-equipped iPhone 7 Plus works, it's easy to assume that the OnePlus secondary lens also zooms at twice the distance.

However, it turns out that the telephoto lens on the OnePlus 5 is actually only capable of giving you a 1.6x optical zoom. To get to 2x, OnePlus employ the good old digital method. This has been confirmed by co-founder Carl Pei, who claims that the zoom is "lossless" and is achieved thanks to the company's SmartCapture multiframe technology, though, further specifics are yet to pop up.

It's unclear why the company chose to go this route and creates a bit of a confusion — why add a 2x jump in the camera app if you won't be able to enhance that much? Of course, we will hold judgement until we've put the phone through its paces in our full upcoming review.


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46 Comments

1. NoToFanboys

Posts: 3231; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

I still prefer LG's way of doing dual cams. That's my personal preference of course, no need to go full offensive Oneplus/Apple fanboys.

4. Ticklemyfancy

Posts: 214; Member since: Oct 09, 2016

How dare you have a preference for another brand's implementation. LYNCH HIM !!!

16. kumarabhishek591

Posts: 153; Member since: Feb 22, 2014

Lg wide camera and also black and white dual camera both are ok. But telephoto is worst.

23. vincelongman

Posts: 5745; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

2x Telephoto with no OIS, small aperture and sensor is the worst In a few years time, >3x Telephoto with OIS, better aperture and sensor will be more interesting and useful Even adding OIS alone will be a noticeable improvement over the 7+/OP5's poor implementations IMO at the moment they are all pretty meh Both wide and telephotos result in worse picture quality Huawei and Qualcomm/Xiamoi's monochrome sensor still falls behind Google and Samsung's single cameras in low light/dynamic range

26. you_sukk_it

Posts: 219; Member since: Apr 11, 2017

-the lie with the 2nd cam not being 2x -the lie with benchmark scores -the lie with the system not being able to use the 6gb ram in the op3. nonstop releases of software bug fixes. horrible customer service. I wouldnt dare touch oneplus garbage

28. Xperia14

Posts: 1208; Member since: Sep 01, 2015

Same here. I've used the wide angle camera a lot on my G6 (but that's also becuase the main camera has a very small FOV).

34. adi90

Posts: 554; Member since: Dec 21, 2015

Op5 has been into controversies since its launch. I wonder what would have happened to OP4 ( bad luck for chinese) Hitherto, i never believed in superstition. Now, I think 4 is really bad for chinese.

2. Sealblaighter

Posts: 430; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

Man, 1.6x optical zoom, or 2x optical zoom. This is NOT enough! In 2006, 2007 we had 3x optical zoom, and now in 2017 we have 2x optical zoom! Technology is getting more advanced, I want to see at least 4x 5x optical zoom.

5. Ozsikhs

Posts: 58; Member since: Sep 03, 2015

I agree, Nokia Lumia 1020 Has 6x Optical zoom

11. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

That's because the Lumia 1020 also has a large sensor which makes a huge hump at the back of the phone.

40. adecvat

Posts: 652; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

Lumia 1020 Has 6x DIGITAL zoom

41. Guaire

Posts: 892; Member since: Oct 15, 2014

Cropping a high resolution image is not optical zoom, if I'm not wrong it's called 'lossless zoom'. When Lumia 1020 6x cropped an image, resolution drops to 1285 x 892 from sensor's full 7714 x 5357 resolution. For getting roughly the same field of view (156mm) of Lumia 1020, with an Apple iPhone 7 Plus you can 2.8x crop the 56mm telephoto camera's image and can produce an 1428 x 1071 pixel 'lossless' image. For Xiaomi Mi6, it means 3x cropping and 1333 x 1000 pixel resolution. For OnePlus 5, 4.3x crop and 1222 x 918 pixel resolution. The 1020 just has so many pixels and because of that sensor size, it's twice as thick around the camera bulge.

43. Sealblaighter

Posts: 430; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

It is not optical zoom yes. I wonder, what is the limit of optical zoom using 2 cameras. 2x is not enough for sure. I would rather buy a 9 mm thick phone with 5x optical zoom, then to buy a 7 mm thick with only 2x optical zoom.

47. Lauticol

Posts: 404; Member since: Jun 25, 2011

Actually this is not Optical nor Digital zoom!! It's like having too different cameras with different lenses. The iPhone uses the regular camera from 1x zoom and crops it digitally when you zoom-in until 1,9x. And at 2x it just uses entirely the other camera.

7. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

Only the s8 and G6 produce the best result of image quality. The rest like OnePlus and other copycat products which claim 2x optical zoom still make crappy photo not even close to my ex s6 edge

10. rubyonrails3

Posts: 375; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

For me Pixel Produces the best results. Pixel don't fake the skin tones like Samsung does and Pixel maintain way more detain on person face than any other phone I've ever used including S8+, iPhone 7+, HTC 10, S7edge, OnePlus 3, Axon 7 and list goes on. S8 can take wonderful pictures of nature but not of person. and its a lot noticeable when you are indoors.

12. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

"Pixel don't fake the skin tones like Samsung does" No. It just depends on the settings on which you shoot.

8. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

What phone had 3x optical zoom in 2006/2007?

17. Felix_Gatto

Posts: 942; Member since: Jul 03, 2013

Nokia N93, it is the first phone with optical zoom and silky smooth 30fps video capture.

19. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Wow, that takes me back lol. I can remember that thing. It was more a camera with phone capabilities. But it did have 3x optical zoom. Wonder if they ever manage to have 3x or more optical zoom in something as small/thin as current smartphones. While the Lumia 1020 had 6x optical, it was a pretty bulky phone.

44. Sealblaighter

Posts: 430; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

I would like to see some phones with 4x or 5x optical zoom. Samsung has made one with 10x optical zoom, but that was way too thick! :D

45. Sealblaighter

Posts: 430; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

The N93 was not the world's first optical zoom device, as I know the first one was a Sharp(Japan was awesome those years).

46. Sealblaighter

Posts: 430; Member since: Jan 26, 2014

14. TerryD

Posts: 559; Member since: May 09, 2017

Yeah! We need something like the Nikon P900 in our phones with an 83x optical zoom!

15. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

That thing is amazing, have you seen the video where it zooms into the moon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfshAzV0FN4

36. TerryD

Posts: 559; Member since: May 09, 2017

Yeah, you can almost see the guy in the John Lewis ad on there. First video I saw of it was fully zoomed in, then zoomed out and out and out and out. Immense piece of kit!

3. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

What a pathetic attitude from this cheating company. Thank God that we have Samsung and LG to be the true people servants. All these cheap ass counterfeit products should be sold only in Japan where they don't care about environmental problem like Fukushima radiation.

9. Arashmahmoodi25

Posts: 132; Member since: Apr 07, 2017

f**k ur company with this dual lens camera . Why u put it in first place u didn't need the dual lens camera , it's stupidity.

42. AmashAziz

Posts: 2934; Member since: Jun 30, 2014

Do a favour on us and shut up. And stop talking on behalf of everyone else.

13. epdm2be

Posts: 824; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Lies, cheats and more lies. What kind of a f**ked up company is this? Don't this CEO realises that he is loosing all his credibility if he even had some left? For me it"s clear; Never buy from these guys!

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