Deja Vu all over again as Verizon rejected first crack at Google Phone?

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Deja Vu all over again as Verizon rejected first crack at Google Phone?
There are many who believe the story that Verizon had first crack at the Apple iPhone, but turned down Steve Jobs because of all the things he was seeking. After the success of the iPhone, no one would expect the same thing to happen again. It would be just like the guy at Decca Records-Dick Rowe-who turned down Beatles manager Brian Epstein in 1961, telling him that , "Really, Brian. Groups with two guitars are on the way out," being given the chance to sign the Stones and passing up on that, too. But alas, according to Peter Kafka writing in "All Things Digital", the reason why the Nexus One is a GSM model is because Verizon turned down Google and so far has refused to help them push the device. Perhaps Verizon is really, really believing its own PR about the DROID.

Meanwhile, the brainiacs at XDA made a video of the animation that plays when you turn on your Google Phone. They also discovered a mysterious file that is called GenieWidget.apk. A little more work and XDA will be able to offer an update file that will upgrade your Android phone to the 2.1 version. Of course, that would risk bricking your device or voiding the warranty, so keep that in mind. Besides the video, we also have a couple of new pix of the Nexus One which is quickly becoming the most photographed device on earth.

source: AllThingsDigitalXDA-developers via Phandroid



24. 203RichBoy

Posts: 76; Member since: Dec 15, 2009

Actually unless you live in rural Nebraska or something T-Mobile has pretty good service! AT&T is supposed to have a larger coverage but on a road trip from Charlotte to NYC my brother At&T went out and was completly useless for several instances especially in VA, where my G1 never lost signal once and neither did Moms verizon. And when T-Mo launces its new and improved 3G by years end it will only get better ;)

25. sleepyjohnny

Posts: 151; Member since: Dec 16, 2009

not saying they have bad service, just not the best. my aunt and cousin have tmobile and usually have signal, just not full bars. i have verizon and wherever i have regular signal, i also get 3G. AT&T has faster data speeds, but only because they have less people connected to their network at once since they have poor 3G coverage. My friend has the iphone 3G and he honestly prefers to just wait until he's in WiFi range to use anything with data on his phone

16. WnnaFghtAboutIt

Posts: 149; Member since: Aug 31, 2009

iphones take over 14 months per unit for at&t to break even on them...meaning if someone had an original iphone then went to took at&t another 14 months to recoup....meaning they only made profit on that customer for maybe 4-6 months... this is why vzw is the biggest and the most profitable...

17. Rytr23

Posts: 5; Member since: Nov 13, 2008


18. 203RichBoy

Posts: 76; Member since: Dec 15, 2009

No they're the most profitable because their plans are high as hell and they bundle useless services like V Cast with all their lame phones. They didnt become number one till they bought Alltel. Only with the Droids has VZW started to become relevant. CDMA? Lol....

19. E.N.

Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009

VCAST was a waste of my $15

21. jcoberg10

Posts: 112; Member since: Oct 30, 2009

They are the most profitable because they have a sound business strategy and don't waste money buying off companines like the mob(apple), and who was #1 in customers before a cingular At&T merger? Oh yea Verizon.... Which was bigger alltel 12.5mil customers or AT&T 36mil customers(not exact figure, but they were pretty big), you forget the new at&t is actually cingular still, only rebranded. Oh how quickly they forget! :) Also, you can say only with the Iphone did At&t(cingular) become relevant. GSM? (G oodluck S eeingthrough M asonry) LOL

23. sleepyjohnny

Posts: 151; Member since: Dec 16, 2009

nice... totally agree. the only company that has tried and made it somewhere on its own it Tmobile. and because theyve done it all on their own, they dont have the best service around.

15. deschats

Posts: 193; Member since: Jun 09, 2009

uhm if you think about it, maybe they have good reasoning. they turned down the iphone, but at&t got it and now their network is the most worthless piece of poop. maybe they turned down the nexus one in fear of losing their "best network in the us" title. i would do the same. they are, after all, at the top.... still.

9. jskrenes

Posts: 209; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

Is it that big of a deal? We've already got the Droid and Eris. The HTC Passion is likely coming, and there are rumors of Samsung and even LG coming out with their own Android OS. I don't think it's as bad as VZW passing on the iPhone (of course there are rumors that Apple passed on VZW and vice versa) since there are plenty of other manufacturers coming out with their own Android devices.

12. ajac09

Posts: 1482; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

except the passion maybe the gphone thus may not be coming to them but they are getting the toshiba TGo1... passion could be sprint it just looks like sprint

13. biggles

Posts: 269; Member since: Oct 15, 2009

I never bought the Verizon passing on Apple story. Jobs wanted a global phone from the get go and GSM was the only way to go. Now, the same folks that said Apple wanted Verizon in the first place are the same ones that said Apple would never build both a CDMA and GSM handset. I don't believe this crowd ever stopped talking out of both sides of their mouth.

8. artz1986

Posts: 453; Member since: Mar 11, 2009

I don't know the details so I'm not going to speculate that much, but I'm thinking Google saw a bigger customer base via GSM. Think about it, if the phone is suppose to be "revolutionary", why would they have wanted the phone to be released through a CDMA carrier, which would have meant them having to make a GSM variant for the rest of the world? The global standard is GSM, so why not go that route? I kinda think that was the case for the iPhone aswell, unless apple wasn't thinking of the device being available to the masses. Anyway, seeing how this phone isn't going to be at&t 3G ready, I've kinda lost interest. Lame, I know..

11. biggles

Posts: 269; Member since: Oct 15, 2009

A bigger customer base with 900/1700/2100 MHz bands? Not in this country, not on the distant 4th largest carrier. And seeing that Android is not doing so hot in Europe, that makes less sense too. I'm thinking All Things Digital took a little too much creative license here.

20. remixfa

Posts: 14605; Member since: Dec 19, 2008

artz, GSM is NOT the global standard. GSM has 2.. count them 2 more countries that use it than CDMA. Its a minor majority, not a standard.

6. dandirk unregistered

I personally think they didn't want a "redundant" product. Motorola Droid just came out and this is a similar phone (Except processor and keyboard). We all know they are different but most do/would not. Also if the rumors are true that VZW will be releasing LTE through out next year, why bring on tons of phones only to have to replace them with LTE versions? Not that I think verizon cares about its customers that much but you never know...

7. tshow84

Posts: 65; Member since: Jun 11, 2009

LTE is being released in 25-30 markets in 2010...cdma wil be up for "years to come"...dont expect LTE to all of a sudden take over... and if verizon didnt care about its customers, why are they ranked number one or two every year in customer support?

10. biggles

Posts: 269; Member since: Oct 15, 2009

A redundant product like the Touch Pro2 and the Imagio, save for the keyboard? Yeah, Verizon would NEVER do that, and if so, certainly not a month apart. Uh...wait a minute...

5. rehnhart

Posts: 103; Member since: Mar 27, 2009

I think Verizon is trying not to blur their marketing strategies with Android and turned the Gphone/ Nexxus One down because they didn't know how to make it part of their branding. Kiltlifter is right that Verizon does not like to share in co-branding, but stepped out a bit with Motorola and felt the association with Google and the Nexxus One would lead to similar conclusions with Apple/ATT.

4. SamTime

Posts: 253; Member since: Nov 07, 2009

Everyone gets an invite to the Android party but me....cuz I'm with AT&T. FMC, fuck my carrier...

3. Kiltlifter

Posts: 742; Member since: Dec 11, 2008

I think that VZW's Marketing team thinks they are too good to co-brand with another global brand. It took 3 years for HTC devices to start carrying their own branding on them instead of just Verizon Wireless on them. Idiot tech employees still call the 6600, 6700, 5800, 6800, and 6900 as being made by UTStarcom or Audiovox, when they were indeed HTC devices branded that way to hide HTCs name. I am sick of VZW execs thinking they run the wireless world. Get over yourselves you self indulging assholes. VZW should be grabbing at every new kick ass phone and start being the market first instead of follower. Put out LTE, put out the right devices by the best manufacturers, and make sure they work first. If Google or HTC, or Apple wants to go VZW first it is becuase they know they are the best, just hold them to the quality you want and they will fall in line. Sigh... but keep shooting yourselves in the foot, it has done wonders so far... imagine how small a market base AT&T would have if the iPhone was on VZW first, then sprint second. Then when the world got the GSM model it wouldn't have mattered for AT&T, but would have helped loyal T-Mo users, becuase everyone I know that has the iPhone loves it, but hates AT&T here in AZ. Here's to foregoing enormous opportunities for continued growth while you save Moto from the grave they dug themselves when they refused to accept the fact that the razor was a horrible device. I thank god that XDA exists becuase I am sick of being 1 year behind the other carriers when it comes to innovation. Nice one vzw.... nice.

14. prettyboy1974

Posts: 56; Member since: Mar 16, 2009

You, know a few months back my sentiments were exactly the same, but I think there is something else going on behind the scenes. Think about it Verizon has this huge event with Google and now all of a sudden they're saying F'u, doesn't make sense. Think about it like this though, T-mo is not selling this phone, just contracting it so Verizon would have had nothing to do with this other than plans(with no service agreement, might I add). I also believe Verizon is not high on the buzz of the Droid but high on the Buzz of the Passion/Bravo, which is still coming out and will be just as good, if not better than the Nexus1. Give them an opportunity to see what the deal is before you crucify them, cause they are smart and just like with the Iphone, the were #1 before it and will be #1 after.

22. sleepyjohnny

Posts: 151; Member since: Dec 16, 2009

i love how if you go to check the upcoming devices for verizon, there is a phone that looks almost identical to the nexus. its called the HTC Passion... i think. im pretty sure that thats the nexus in cdma clothing but i could be wrong. theres also the moto calgary coming out which is also android. so verizon is not saying FU, phonearena is just making it seem that way

2. htc_prep

Posts: 303; Member since: Oct 09, 2009

i dont know about this. if verizon declined google doesnt mean that google would diss other cdma carriers and risk losing out on vital capital and future partnerships with verizion and other carriers... then again it the phone layout kinda matches the uniform of verizions droid series

1. colalover25

Posts: 9; Member since: Dec 15, 2009

yeah this is the same phone with i think different os

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