Courage: No headphone jacks on the Pixel 2 and Pixel XL 2, new rumor says

Courage: No headphone jacks on the Pixel 2 and Pixel XL 2, new rumor says
The rumor mill once again churns out a rather important piece of information pertaining to Google's upcoming Pixel phones, the Pixel 2 and Pixel XL 2

According to a piece of information obtained by 9To5Google's Stephen Hall once again puts the good ol' headphone jack in the sights. As per the latest tip, the next Pixels are once again tipped to ditch the 3.5mm audio jack and rely on Bluetooth and the USB Type-C port for audio playback.

This coincides with many previous rumors we've heard about the device dropping the headphone jack and, to be honest, wouldn't be that surprising to witness. The trend that got pioonered by Motorola but really caused ripples in the industry after Apple released its headphone-less iPhone 7 and 7 Plus is likely here to stay, and it seems that Google will be one of the largest players to join in the coming months.


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139. Ozsikhs

Posts: 58; Member since: Sep 03, 2015

deal breaker

133. Arashmahmoodi25

Posts: 133; Member since: Apr 07, 2017

I don't get this .( Only God can help us ). Fin

112. smoked_2na unregistered

Not a welcome change.

101. Arashmahmoodi25

Posts: 133; Member since: Apr 07, 2017

People. I don't get it. We don't have the technology yet for Bluetooth headphones to not have delay , like wired headphones. Why we r doing this

128. Beijendorf unregistered

Your headphones are still wired, they just use the USB-C port instead.

100. dmsrfl

Posts: 76; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

Everyone needs to stop crying about the headphone jack. How many times do you REALLY use it? I rarely do. Everything is wireless now a days and that's just fine w me. As long as Google puts stereo front speakers, I'll be happy.

93. epdm2be

Posts: 836; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

"..next Pixels are once again tipped to ditch the 3.5mm audio jack and rely on Bluetooth and the USB Type-C port for audio playback..." ...and thus my wallet remains SHUT!

79. jjface

Posts: 271; Member since: Jun 07, 2017

Change to Stupid: No headphone jacks ....

77. Tipus

Posts: 914; Member since: Sep 30, 2016

If headphone makers would start ditching headphone jacks for usb-c , there wouldn't be any problem. But for now it's just plain stupid .

82. Beijendorf unregistered

I agree, the audio industry is stupidly slow to change. But they wouldn't ever change if the device manufacturers didn't force their hands. Apple went a step ahead of their switch and bought Beats, though I haven't seen them manufacture any Lightning-connected headphones yet.

110. epdm2be

Posts: 836; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

Apple didn't "went ahead". Apple is a greedy self-centered company that removed that jack to force people into buying their exclusive and expensive airbuds. This nothing to do with foresight. Why android manufacturers followed suit is beyond me. As none of them have such expensive headphones and they rely on audio equipment manufacturers.

118. Beijendorf unregistered

Yes, Apple is greedy. But they didn't ditch the outdated headphone jack out of greed, but for design and functionality like all the rest. They were even involved in the development of the USB-C standard.

109. epdm2be

Posts: 836; Member since: Apr 20, 2012

You don't get it, do you? This is useless unless phones come equipped with 2 usb-c ports so that we can recharge and connect to audio equipment at the same time. And with audio equipment I mean more than just headphones!

126. Beijendorf unregistered

Get a splitter if you want to be a special snowflake like that. The rest of us will settle for a single connector and getting a more compact device instead.

59. HansP

Posts: 542; Member since: Oct 16, 2011

I've never bought a Pixel or Nexus phone. This would be yet another reason for me not to buy one. Google should perhaps look into fixing the poor performing bluetooth audio in Android (and lossless audio performance for that matter) before considering forcing people to use it?

53. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1620; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

In all honesty if you look inside a phone, headphone jack is one of the largest components now. However I still want one on my phone, I use it daily, rather not deal with an adapter or switch everything to Bluetooth yet.

42. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

No biggie. Hate wires.

41. Scott93274

Posts: 6044; Member since: Aug 06, 2013

We'll all have to just face it, this is the way things are going to be going forward. Sooner or later, I imagine that the actual USB type-c ports will eventually go away in favor of wireless charging and data transfers resulting in a completely sealed phone, maybe you might start seeing that in the next 5 years. Tech industry is very against having cables tethering your electronics in place.

29. bossmt_2

Posts: 459; Member since: Oct 13, 2009

This isn't the right move. Though USB C adapters are much cheaper than lightning.

39. bucky

Posts: 3797; Member since: Sep 30, 2009

the lightning adapter is $10. How much is the USB C? and not some Amazon no name version.

19. aodmisery

Posts: 29; Member since: Apr 18, 2016

I for one do not care. I don't use the jack anyways

32. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

I use both. But I will never buy a phone with the jack, unless they all dont have jacks and then my option to choose is eliminated. When I am riding my bike (because I race), I can't wear cord ones because if they fall out, they swing into the wheels and get caught and break, or could cause other issues. So I ride wireless. But when I run or walk, I use corded, because since I am not moving as fast, sound quality is more important and also loudness. Wireless headphones even with noise-cancellation, don't have enough volume, because increasing volume decreases battery-life. Wireless headphones have volume limits. They also always need charging and many times I forget to charge them. I don't want to plug headphones into my charging port because, well what happens when I need to charge but want to listen to music? Also, in my job I use my ports to plug in sensitive equipment, so I need the port free. If you damage the headphone jack, it will cause no other damage to the phone.. PERIOD. If you damage the charging port, then the phone is useless if you cant charge it back up. Until the jack is 100% useless, or is replaced with a better solution, I wont be buying a phone without one. Even though I use wireless headphones more often than wired ones, I prefer wired ones for sound quality.

43. Beijendorf unregistered

What you're doing is describing issues that would still be issues if the phone had a 3.5 mm analogue jack. If you break the 3.5 mm jack you would still need to hand your phone in for repair, just as if you manage to break the USB-C. If you so thoroughly manage to break it that it won't even charge any more, you need to take better care of your phone... But still hand it in for repair. And if you need to listen to music while charging so often, you may as well just buy a USB-C cable split, so you can do both. For normal people, with the modern rapid-charging and long-lasting batteries, it's not an issue.

76. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

If the 3.5mm connector is snapped off, it's more likely it can be removed and if the 3.5mm jack is damaged, it's less likely to need a repair (aside from removing the connector) or affect smartphone operation beyond headphone use. Whereas the USB C port is more fragile, and since you wouldn't be able to charge the device, a repair would definitely be in order. As for taking better care of your phone, accidents can and will happen. See, and there's the problem. With a 3.5mm jack, plug in your existing headphones and you're good to go. Remove it, then just buy this, this this and that and you'll be ok. Why does it make sense to buy all of this extra stuff to accomplish the same thing I was able to do before without spending money on all of these extra accessories? You're creating a solution to non-existent problems.

86. Beijendorf unregistered

The 3.5mm doesn't snap off unless you've also broken your phone.. The damage would be via a glitched or bad contact. You'd still want it repaired, just the same as a glitched USB-C. Oh, and do you have any evidence that the USB-C is more fragile? It seems far more robust than the old micro-USB or Apples Lightning connector. And being unable to use it for audio/data transfer doesn't mean you can't charge with the port. I had a smartphone that couldn't use the micro-USB for data transfer, but could charge just fine. They require different levels of sophistication. Ah yes, inability to change to future technology. Hey, gramophones work just fine. Remove them and suddenly you need to buy these compact discs and disc players and what not. Look. Once the switch is made, the industry will catch up with USB-C headphones, and it'll be just as before with plug and play. But smartphones can be made sleeker and headphones more functional. You don't need to buy a bunch of extras, and I don't know why you pretend like you do.

107. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

How many times do I have to say this. If the headphone jack is damaged, you can most likely still charger your device, make calls, surf the web, etc. If the charging port gets damaged, you most likely can't charge your device, and then nothing works. Another benefit of the headphone jack over using USB audio is that the jack isn't tied to the battery, which the USB port is. If a headphone jack shorts out, no big deal. If the port shorts out, you may have a $700 paperweight. I said it's more fragile than the headphone jack. My problem is consolidating Jack's to make them dual function seems like a good idea, until something like listening to music ends up with not being able to charge your phone. It has nothing to do with sophistication. The reason it could charge but not transmit data was because your data terminals had a bad connection in them, the same can happen to your charging terminals, which are in the same port. The difference in your analogy is their is a clear benefit to moving to those other technologies. Are you actually saying the difference in sound quality from a gramophone to a CD is the same as headphone jack to USB audio? For one thing, the way the audio was captured and engineered compared to a CD was miles apart. The difference here is moving the DA converter from on board to outboard, the difference in audio quality will be minimal. And that's really it isn't it? Making the device sleeker, form over function. And you were the one who brought up buying extras. "And if you need to listen to music while charging so often, you may as well just buy a USB-C cable split, so you can do both." See, I don't need to do that with a headphone jack do I? And I'm sure that won't be the only thing you have to purchase to make something work that already worked fine with the headphone jack. You're creating solutions to problems that don't have to exist.

117. Beijendorf unregistered

"If the headphone jack is damaged, you can most likely still charger your device, make calls, surf the web, etc. If the charging port gets damaged, you most likely can't charge your device, and then nothing works." [CITATION NEEDED]. You keep claiming damaging part of the USB-C stops it from working completely, which is inaccurate at best. "Another benefit of the headphone jack over using USB audio is that the jack isn't tied to the battery, which the USB port is. If a headphone jack shorts out, no big deal. If the port shorts out, you may have a $700 paperweight." Now you're just inventing issues that don't exist. "The reason it could charge but not transmit data was because your data terminals had a bad connection in them, the same can happen to your charging terminals, which are in the same port." There you go. Finally you admit that damage to the port doesn't mean everything stops working. If your phone also has wireless charging, your phone will still work. And no, I'm not comparing the jump from gramophones to CD in terms of audio quality. I'm comparing it in terms of keeping old technology around when we have a replacement, and your idea that you have to buy a bunch of new stuff for the switch. "See, I don't need to do that with a headphone jack do I? And I'm sure that won't be the only thing you have to purchase to make something work that already worked fine with the headphone jack." Yeah, and if we still had a separate charging port you could charge your phone while mirroring your screen to the TV and listen to your favourite music! Brilliant! Or, nobody has the need for that and we may as well stick with just having the all-purpose USB port.

137. VZWuser76

Posts: 4974; Member since: Mar 04, 2010

It's not hard to figure out. A USB C is a flat connector. If it's damaged, the damage will be spread uniformly across the port. "There you go. Finally you admit that damage to the port doesn't mean everything stops working. If your phone also has wireless charging, your phone will still work." So when your port wasn't working, did you snap of the connector in it? Because that's the only way your statement would actually ring true. If it did so another way, it could simply be that it had a poor connection from the factory. And since the Pixel, which is the phone we're discussing here doesn't have wireless charging, it wouldn't. At that rate, if they all had wireless charging, you wouldn't need any port at all. But then you'd need to have access to a wireless charger, and they aren't as common as wired are, that's not even getting into differing wireless charging standards. The whole point of moving forward to newer tech is that it gives an advantage to what is currently in use. Here that isn't the case, at best it's pretty much the same. So why get rid of it when it's popular and still in use by the majority of people? Where the hell did you get that from what I said? I never said anything of the sort about having to do three different things at once as a reason to keep it. What I did say was that if the USB C port was damaged while your headphones are plugged in, you wouldn't be able to charge your device, one thing happening after the other, cause and effect.

16. wrm2013

Posts: 237; Member since: Mar 28, 2013

Why does the title say courage? Love apple much

15. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

Even more reasons why I'll never buy a pixel, bare bone stock android was already a deal breaker.

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