Android L being tested on Nexus 4?

27. irbaaz (Posts: 169; Member since: 27 Mar 2014)

This is the only one reason I like iPhone , they provide software support till the device is capable of....

28. DogeShibe (Posts: 1116; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)

You do know that they intentionally slow down your device...forcing you to update to the latest and greatest device.

35. bachtiar (Posts: 4; Member since: 12 Sep 2014)

Then it means you really should upgrade. I have been using my 4S for 3 years, and upgrading seems like normal. Even tho you're android flagship user, its normal to upgrade after 3 years.

36. DogeShibe (Posts: 1116; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)

Yes 3 years is normal if youre on a flagship.
You see tech is improving day by day.

40. Awalker (Posts: 1689; Member since: 15 Aug 2013)

Three years? I upgrade every six months.

48. killer7D (Posts: 441; Member since: 18 Sep 2014)

I agree :)

37. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

Where is Jakelee.......

38. DogeShibe (Posts: 1116; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)

Polishing his trolling skills.

44. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

Lmfao

+1

Hey Jakelee, are you reading this?

It's kinda boring

39. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3814; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Banned. Not just limited. Banned. Started a new account--LiquidSnake. Banned once again. Hopefully, you're next.

42. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

Oh I see.

How did you know that Jakelee was known by Liquid Snake?

Lmao. Banned for what? Speaking the truth. Truth hurts.

46. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3814; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Everyone knew. It was obvious. Account was started a week ago. Same comments.

47. DogeShibe (Posts: 1116; Member since: 10 Jan 2014)

www.phonearena.com/user/androtaku

49. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

Androidtaku gave it away, because he always uses that phrase.

6. tedkord (Posts: 14120; Member since: 17 Jun 2009)

Because its capable of running at 2.3GHz,and does during intensive tasks. There's nothing deceptive about it.

7. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1122; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

They are advertising how high the clocks can go, by your logic a car that is advertised as being 100bhp doesn't deliver 100bhp all the time and therefore cannot be classified as having 100bhp? I couldn't care less tbh my M8 is always on powersaver which limits the S801 to 1.1GHz and i don't notice any drop in smoothness.

43. Birds (Posts: 1171; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

I mean overall, i was just curious and I still am learning this techy stuff. My issue stems from the fact that it seems like it's clocked at 2.3 GHz rather than that's it's max clock speed for intensive tasks and my dumb ass believed that for a very long time LOL. I just wish they'd state the relative clock speed and the max clock speed for heavy tasks. If I'm not mistaken, Intel does that.

And I view it different with a car in relation to a cellphone so that analogy is not how I'd define my logic. I know that a car is not pushed to its limits by a normal consumer, and one can say the same for cellphones to an extent. It's just that people go in with the expectation that a car will get them from point A to B. Not to say they don't care about horse power and foot torque and things of the like... It's just that with cellphones, its a bit different. I used to be the cellphone geek on campus (TBH I know sh*t but I manage, LOL, I'd like to think I know a lot but this place constantly proves me wrong) and people would ask me is such and such phone faster than an iPhone because of the higher reported clock speed. It was hard not to give them a long winded response on no and on how optimization and actual architecture plays a roll. My friend thought the GS5 was just a beastly performer compared to the iPhone 5S because research lead him to think that a quadcore 2.5 Ghz S801 was just a beast compared to apple's A7....on paper of course. I told him that apple's CPU can clock higher than 1.3 ghz for intensive tasks and that the S801 really isn't challenged hard enough to go up to 2.5 Ghz BUT it can. All it did was left the boy confused because he though that cellphones were as linear as their paper specs lead on... That is my issue with the whole clock speed thingy. LOL.

53. CanYouSeeTheLight (Posts: 1122; Member since: 05 Jul 2012)

But they work exactly the same way as desktop processors, they scale the frequency depending on the workload. Intel doesn't do that, Intel temporarily boosts the max frequency depending on how many cores are on (Intel Turbo boost), if 1 core is on they can boost it to the max turbo boost frequency, if 2 cores then a slightly lower frequency and so on. Samsung devices are never an indicative of how a SoC can perform as they are often bloated and slow down even the most beastly of SoCs. And there is the throttling factor too, due to thermal constraints in our devices the SoCs can't operate at max frequency because they generate too much heat that triggers the throttling that effectively brings the clocks down so that the processor generates less heat and consumes less power. A phone like the Galaxy S5 which is plastic made retains most of the heat inside and therefore throttles and this is why it can endure much more on the battery in graphics heavy applications than an M8 as the M8 being made of aluminium conducts the heat outside much more easily and barely throttles resulting in much more constant performance but also much more higher battery drain.

8. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

That's like saying it's deceitful for car manufacturers to say a car has a top speed of 200 MPH when normally people don't go above 80.

50. Arte-8800 (banned) (Posts: 4562; Member since: 13 Mar 2014)

Wrong, whenever you swipe or open apps, the Cpu hits maximum point.

Try using app called "Cooltools "

13. Planterz (Posts: 2110; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

Birds, you really need learn how processors and kernel governors actually work. CPU-Z isn't going to help you, because viewing live system stats isn't an intensive task. That's why you only see it using one or 2 cores at lower clock speeds so often.

25. JC557 (Posts: 1794; Member since: 07 Dec 2011)

All processors nowadays ramp up the clocks when needed and those higher clocks can be sustained for practically forever then that's what the processor is rated for. In the worst case scenario they will be throttled down if heat becomes a problem.

It's been done since the era of x86 computing.

4. Settings (Posts: 2333; Member since: 02 Jul 2014)

You should know by now that OEMs rarely update 2 year old phones for you to buy the new shiny ones.

5. hurrycanger (Posts: 1625; Member since: 01 Dec 2013)

Well. They will give you BS reasons.

9. g2a5b0e (Posts: 3814; Member since: 08 Jun 2012)

Ha. I highly doubt ANY of those phones will see it.

10. Berzerk000 (Posts: 4275; Member since: 26 Jun 2011)

Well, there is one excuse. All of their skins take up more system memory than stock Android on the Nexus, so if the memory taken up by L and their skin was too much that would be a good reason to not update it, because it would either be impossible to update it or would dramatically reduce performance. Though I personally think all manufacturers should give the consumer the option to load stock Android on their device rather than their skinned version, so every phone would be a Google Play edition.

14. Suo.Eno (Posts: 528; Member since: 17 Feb 2013)

ikr... still a sh*tty excuse though. You would have thought that all these OEM "partners" (divided to 2 categorically in my book) learn a thing or 2 by now, get proper devs in, let them have more free rein to trim things down if/when they can't/wont play ball with AOSP or xda devs.

thus slowly I realize the prescience of Android One program now.