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5 phone makers that said they'll love you forever, but ran off with the child support

5 phone makers that said they'll love you forever, but ran off with the child support
Making smartphones is a tough and often unprofitable business for anyone but the top three - Apple, Samsung and Huawei. After they saw Apple's exorbitant profits from the iPhone, many a company have tried and failed to reinvent the cell phone wheel, entering the market with the enthusiasm of a startup, then burning through a pile of cash while trying to challenge the status quo, and in the end throwing in the towel. 

Just in the past few weeks, we've had a few of those declaring they are no longer able to fight the good fight, and are folding the lawn chairs. What happens after them? Well, the thousands of folks who drank the Kool-Aid, believing that a newcomer or even an established player like Microsoft can change the game completely in their favor, are usually hung out to dry with their phones in terms of support and updates. 

That's the risk of being an early adopter, though, while the warm and fuzzy feeling of using something relatively unique can keep them warm for at least one upgrade cycle. Here are a few of the glaring examples how hard it is to make it in the cutthroat phone business for anyone but the incumbent juggernauts.

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posted on 14 Jul 2017, 07:33

1. bucknassty (Posts: 198; Member since: 24 Mar 2017)


still got a lumia 640 in my bag... got it for 30 bucks... its not bad

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 14:20

14. rocker91 (Posts: 71; Member since: 09 Dec 2016)


lol same with me ,i like the creator updates

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 08:15

2. Pheewix (Posts: 10; Member since: 23 Sep 2014)


LG should probably be on this list right?

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 08:26 1

3. nikhil23 (Posts: 212; Member since: 07 Dec 2016)


LG makes great phones. Too bad their UI sucks. Either they should stick to stock UI or improve their software like Samsung.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 08:39

5. jove39 (Posts: 1996; Member since: 18 Oct 2011)


I wrote email to lg, suggesting same (use stock android) and got boilerplate response.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 10:55

10. Arthurhkt (Posts: 591; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)


Seriously, I know we all prefer Stock Android of it smoothness, but suggesting almost every OEM to go for stock will make Android just like a Windows Phone? Then Android will look the same on every devices.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 11:40

11. trojan_horse (Posts: 5337; Member since: 06 May 2016)


I second that.
And I personally find stock Android to be boring AF. Stock is as bare bones as it gets.

posted on 15 Jul 2017, 02:56 1

17. joey_sfb (Posts: 6760; Member since: 29 Mar 2012)


I prefer stock for three reasons.

1) Speed, stability on low end hardware. Some OEM skin are not that great on both aspects plus many feature such as gesture are useless to me and consume valuable system resources.

2) Easy to customize, all apps, tools and launchers are developed and tested with stock android. For example while I like MIUI look and feel on XiaoMi phone their custom feature permission sometime gets in the way, with other feature such as Google Cloud Print. My stock Android has perfect compatibility.

3) Stock may be plain looking but only if you allow it. If you put in the effort you will get the exact look and feature set you want, in this level of customization OEM skin actually get in the way which will peek its ugly head to remind you its origin.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 13:33

13. L0n3n1nja (Posts: 679; Member since: 12 Jul 2016)


Personally I've never liked stock Android, doesn't look good and lacks so many things built into other phones. After using Samsung I tried Motorola and felt the phones are stripped of essential features and I need to download a ton of 3rd party apps to match what Samsung gave me out of the box.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 15:25

16. domfonusr (Posts: 642; Member since: 17 Jan 2014)


My LG Viper was a decent phone, an upper-mid-ranger when it was released. I started using it in 2013, after I had sold or given away all of my older smartphones (other than my Nokia 9300 and E62, which my parents were using, and which were too old and cheap for the Sheriff's sale, and thus went into storage), when a friend just gave it to me after he upgraded. I didn't have Sprint service, so I never used it as a phone, per se, but the WiFi was usable, and so I tried it out for a while. The interface wasn't terrible, and since I was learning Android for the first time, I got used to it after a while. I even downloaded a few apps to experiment with, and then I wanted to put CyanogenMod on it, and discovered it couldn't be rooted. That sucked, but I felt like it turned out that way because it was supposed to. I never tried rooting Android ever again. Now that I have experienced stock Android on my Moto E, I like that better, and will only go back to LG if there is no Motorola model available at Cricket, or anything else more interesting, come upgrade time.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 12:59

12. j_grouchy (Posts: 67; Member since: 08 Nov 2016)


Ummm...they still make and support quality smartphones. They have high end devices that are as good as Samsung's flagships. So no, they don't belong on this list. If a UI you aren't 100% happy with is enough to qualify a company for this list, then put Samsung down, too.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 08:30

4. Valdomero (Posts: 303; Member since: 13 Nov 2012)


what about Ubuntu phones? they were cool in paper...

posted on 15 Jul 2017, 04:48

18. AmashAziz (Posts: 1602; Member since: 30 Jun 2014)


on paper*

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 08:39 1

6. tokuzumi (Posts: 1211; Member since: 27 Aug 2009)


Windows Phone came onto the scene too late. Windows Mobile was on the scene when iOS and Android came out. The height of Windows Mobile was with the introduction of the Touch Pro 2. But resistive screens swayed me to the HTC Hero. Never looked back at that point. With the lack of native Google app support on Windows Phone was a deal-breaker for me. I am tied to Google services, and I needed an OS that would support those apps.

Those high end android phones are a dumb idea to begin with, which is why Vertu never made anything other than noise. I know they were mainly trying to sell their concierge service, but they'd be better off adding that service to an existing phone, like the S8.

Nextbit came out at the wrong time, with the low point of Qualcomm, and their dumpster fire chips, the 808 and 810. Phone was doomed from the beginning.

Amazon looked promising, but didn't really look into it enough. I think it was exclusive to AT&T, if memory serves, which was a bad idea.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 09:50

7. SIGPRO (Posts: 1938; Member since: 03 Oct 2012)


Note that MS stopped support of WP8.1 and not W10M.
They released a statement that they will not stop with mobile phones and that they are cooking something that you have never seen before.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 10:39

8. PhoneCritic (Posts: 1072; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)


That is exactly what they said about WinCE 6 then WinMobile 7, 7.5 and then WinPhone8 Android apps on WinPhone etc... They lost all credibility with me as the kept re-writing the kernel and made it impossible for apps that worked on on version to work on another and the phone that was purchased 6 moths ago was no longer supported and you had to purchase and all new device. They are doing the same thing again.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 14:24

15. rocker91 (Posts: 71; Member since: 09 Dec 2016)


i hope they will just pull a rabbit outaa hat, got high hopes for M.S as they have brought in some pretty innovative hardware lately.

posted on 14 Jul 2017, 10:42 1

9. you_sukk_it (Posts: 133; Member since: 11 Apr 2017)


how the powerful fell. why? feeling too comfortable. Wm 6.5 was crap and people were waiting for ages. MS said who gives a feck were in 60% of phones. now theyre not in 5% of phones. feck em all. BB and nokia were asleep at the wheel. HTC is next

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