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iOS closing the gap with Android in the States says latest comScore report

iOS closing the gap with Android in the States says latest comScore report
Based on the latest release from comScore, showing data from U.S. smartphone owners age 13 or older, iOS is making a move on Android. In the three months ended in April, Android had a 50.8% marketshare, down from the 51% it controlled in the three months ended in March. At the same time, iOS saw its slice of the U.S. smartphone pie rise from 30.7% to 31.4%. That cut the Green Robot's lead over Apple's mobile OS to 19.4% from 20.3%. Third place RIM saw its share drop from 12.3% to 11.6% while Microsoft and Symbian gained and lost .1% to 4% and 1.3% respectively.

Nearly 3 out of every 4 U.S. smartphone owners text on their device

Nearly 3 out of every 4 U.S. smartphone owners text on their device

So what about OEMs? Both top running Samsung and second place LG each declined .1% Samsung owns a leading 25.9% of the Stateside smartphone market while LG has a 19.2% slice. Apple's 14.4% marketshare is good enough for third place and a .4% pick-up from the three months ended in March to the three months ended in April. Motorola is next with a 12.5% ownership of the market, a loss of .3% from the prior survey. HTC was flat with a 6% tally. Keep in mind that the new HTC One series had not yet launched at the time.

Once again, comScore tells us what we are using our smartphone for. Despite a .2% drop from the previous report, texting remains the activity that most of us do on our mobile phone. 74.1% or almost three-quarters of smartphone users in the States at the end of April were working their thumbs by texting. One of the biggest gains from last month's numbers was the increase of .5% of those using their device to play music or play games. The percentage of those who use their smartphone as a web browser slumped .3% to 49%.

107 million Americans age 13 or older now own a smartphone out of a total of 234 million mobile devices used in the States in that age bracket. That is up from the 106 million using a smartphone noted in the report released last month.

source: comScore via electronista

Android and Samsung are the top smartphone manufacturer and OEM respectively, according to comScore's latest data
Android and Samsung are the top smartphone manufacturer and OEM respectively, according to comScore's latest data

Android and Samsung are the top smartphone manufacturer and OEM respectively, according to comScore's latest data

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posted on 02 Jun 2012, 02:10 19

1. mas11 (Posts: 1034; Member since: 30 Mar 2012)

I wouldn't necessary say a 20.3% to 19.4% change is "closing the gap," but it is something.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 02:27 6

3. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

you have to remember that here in the states there are a few ios devices and android has like a lot of devices

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 02:40 14

4. Commentator (Posts: 3692; Member since: 16 Aug 2011)

You also have to remember that here in the 'States, Apple has a MUCH bigger following than pretty much anywhere else in the world.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:18 6

8. ardent1 (Posts: 2000; Member since: 16 Apr 2011)

d**kwyn still has the correct point -- much more android devices are sold in the US than iOS devices.

Just go to Walmart where tons of no contract android devices range from $78 to $199. I last counted over 30 such models from Straight Talk, Boost, Virgin Mobile, TMobile, tracfone, Metro PCS, Net 10, etc.

Android devices are so cheap, it no longer makes sense to buy a no contract feature phone, unless you are really, really broke.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:34 6

13. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I agree he has a point. But its not just about cheap, Ppl are choosing Android because its also a decent product.

Cuz Win Mo was also cheap. And it looks like WP7 is cheap too. Maybe not as cheap as Android...but its low. Blackberry is cheap too.

And with RIM still having phones out there....and those phones are on those cheap carriers....ppl are choosing Android over Blackberries.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 07:18 1

18. dickwyn (Posts: 621; Member since: 07 May 2012)

yeah i agree, i am using the galaxy note because of the screen size, i am planning to get the next iphone because android has brought me some problems. example i was updating to the premium suite a few days ago and i updated it then the phone had problems so i had to send it to samsung. they said the software had some problems, and i dont say i dont know tech, i am counted as quite expert in phone and computer tech.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 10:05 2

32. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

so a software problem is your reason? thats all?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 09:31 1

31. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Yeah, except those people make up a small portion of the overall market. Two thirds of the entire US population are on AT&T and VERIZON alone. The big 4 carriers total add up to about 280 million. Only one of those carriers does not carry the iPhone. That leaves maybe 60ish million people whose carrier choice leaves them without access to an iPhone. That is out of around 310 million people overall in the US. In other words, cheap Android phones sold by prepaid carriers don't make a phenomenal difference.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 12:07 2

46. Birds (Posts: 1157; Member since: 21 Nov 2011)

In actuality, d**kwyn is very much right just like you said. lol I don't understand why the people on this site have such biased standpoints. Such idiots if you ask me. lol

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 12:18 2

48. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

ardent you have no point.

Apple sells phones at walmart and target now.

apple is selling 3 different iphones from free to 200 bux, so the "cheap android" bit went out the window a long time ago. They are also being sold on just about every carrier from big to small.

The USA is Apples major stronghold for sales. They have much less market share in most euro and asian countries.

Some Android devices are also more expensive than iphones on contract. I didnt know 600 full retail is "cheap".

Just because you live in the cheap prepaid android world doesnt mean the rest of us do.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 17:00 1

66. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

He does have a point. Android phones as a whole are available on many more providers and have a much cheaper selling price ON AVERAGE.

iPhone is just now being added to more carriers and as you can see it is affecting the market share numbers.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 17:58 1

68. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

"many more providers".. how many exactly?
The iphone is availible to nearly every carrier except tmobile and Metro. Combined they have like 45 million customers. Android is outselling iOS by way way more than that.

You have no point.. like always.. your just an ignorant troll trying to battle me.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 18:15

70. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Like always you have no point and insult people. iPhone just now for the first time ever became available on a prepaid provider. It's still not available on T Mobile, some smaller carriers and all prepaid providers except one. It's only been available on Sprint since October.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 19:02

73. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Yeah, it's had an effect on market share. A whopping 0.9 percent. And I already listed above how much difference all those prepaid carriers and T-mobile make: 60 million out of 310 million potential customers.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 19:40 1

76. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Actually iPhone has ganied 5% market share worldwide since october. That's huge.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:06

78. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

yea, and 4.1% of it was from October to December when the new phone launched... woo hoo for you! go, team, go!!

wait.. how much has android grown in that time?? ooh yea. . way more than that.
so that would be like "super huge" then right?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:34

86. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

So that's less than one percent market share per month. IF that trend continues (which it probably won't) it'll take at least a year and a half for iOS to catch up with Android.

Granted, there's only so far Android will be able to go, but as long as Google doesn't let it languish, I foresee it holding pretty steady for a long time. And as long as Android has decent customer loyalty, there's no way iOS will be able to gain market share except by ripping away the last of the other OSes' market share from them.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:05

77. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

no, i dont insult people. i insult useless trolls, like yourself.

its only been available on sprint since October!?! Oh no.. you mean VZW and ATT, the 2 carriers that have nearly 2/3rds of the entire US on them havent had it!?!? oh no!!!

you think iphones on tmobile and prepaid are uncommon? What do you think people buy them for when they buy them unlocked? There have been MILLIONS of iphones on tmobile and prepaid for years. Its not going to be some huge jump if they start selling them directly.

Like always, there is a big obvious sign in front of your useless face, and u just cant see it.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:45

88. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Angry and wrong as usual lol

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 14:42

100. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)

calm down taco or remix will report you, he does have history there...

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 16:20

103. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

its amazing how often he reports me, yet you try to call me out.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 16:52

105. gallitoking (Posts: 4718; Member since: 17 May 2011)

calm down remix...nobody here reports you.. we always need an undercover troll

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 21:35

107. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

really? i got reported again today for calling him a moron. its only ever whenever im directly talking to taco and reminding him that he is a very special little troll that I get a nasty gram in my mail. coincidence?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 03:16 1

7. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Those few iOS devices break sales records every time a new version is launched too.

This will be a merry go round about market share for years to come.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 05:22

16. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

Unless Apple starts making more than one smartphone, or letting iOS be used by other companies (understand it's probably never ever going to happen) then I don't see how there will be a merry-go-round. Android right now is untouchable due to the shear volume of phones on the market. Yes they have a premium product, as does Apple, but I'd give a random guess and say that at least 60% of people buying phones could hardly care less about specs and OS. They probably just walk into a store and go "Hey I want a phone that can text and play Angry Birds." Maybe I'm just being cynical here.

With the poverty level and unemployment the way it is, people can't drop a couple hundred for a phone and pay the ridiculous prices for somebody like AT&T or Verizon. Pay as you go, or cheap contract phones with crappy carriers is the route a lot of people have to take, effectively eliminating Apple from that contest. Understand that a few of the other carriers are starting to sell the 4s, but it just won't do.

The thing I'm waiting to see though, is if and when Windows starts making a serious stand in the smartphone world.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 07:30 1

20. hepresearch (unregistered)

Actually, what I hear in these parts where I live (south-central Pennsylvania) is horror stories of lots of regular people walking into phone stores and saying, "I want an iPhone". Turns out that people around here refer to any smartphone as "an iPhone", and when they see all of the other smart devices that a carrier could sell them, but then understand that only one type is "the iPhone", they go for the Apple device because they think it is "the original geniune iPhone". I am literally an island rocking the Sony Ericsson Z300a in a vast sea of iPhone's every day in my community, and it just feels a little rediculous. The successful (at least locally) mass-media spin of the ubiquity of the iPhone disturbs me.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 07:41 1

22. Jay_F (Posts: 236; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)

That's just Apple marketing at its finest. They became the Coca-Cola of the technology world, at least in regards to phones, tablets, and mp3 players.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 08:08 3

26. hepresearch (unregistered)

Last week, a good friend of mine who bought a Nokia Lumia 710 from T-Mobile at the beginning of this year decided to switch carriers, paid the early termination fee, switched to Verizon and bought an iPhone 4S. He then sold the Lumia. He told me, "It just wasn't the same as a REAL iPhone."

How brainwashed is that? What kind of mindshare does Apple control these days? Once a person is convinced that there is no alternative to something that only you can offer, then how much control do you have over that person? Are they really all that free to choose anymore?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 10:08 1

33. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

You can blame Apple all you want but it comes down to people. Just like elections people can tend to vote or buy what they see some others buying. That social influence in a world pretty much dominated by social networking is a major play and Apple spends a great deal of time focusing all their resources on that. For Android, its different as each company has their own agenda that will never be as focused on the whole as Apple can be. With the exception of Microsoft, that focus for companies is just not there.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 10:36

37. hepresearch (unregistered)

You are definitely right about this. Now that you have said it, I can see it now! People are only brainwashed because they CHOOSE to be! So, Apple is simply providing the impetus to get their ecosystem out there and ingrained into people's daily lives, and people are choosing to embrace it because it is the easy and popular thing to do. Now, Apple has gone the extra step in the past, and presently, to wail on the heads of its competitors with patent litigation and such, but the fact is that Android based OEM's do not share that laser-focus that Apple has. It is just as you have said it is, and it is more of a reflection on our society-in-general than it is on Apple as a specific corporation.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 11:09 1

41. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

How is that brain washed. He tried the phone out for several months and didn't like it.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 13:01 2

52. Apphole (Posts: 3; Member since: 31 May 2012)

How are you still here, WELCHER? GTFO, literally nobody likes or respects you. What a f*cking joke of a man you are.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 13:29 1

56. hepresearch (unregistered)

It wasn't that he didn't like the phone... it was that he was constantly under the impression after getting it that it was substandard because our mutual friends kept telling him that they were sorry for him, that he got that instead of an iPhone. They told him it was just a "fake iPhone copy", which is a lie, but then again they say this because they think that any smartphone is an "iPhone", and anything other than Apple's is just a fake to them. Over time, even though he was satisfied with that phone, he felt that he had possibly missed out on something better as he was being told, and so he decided that he would spend the extra money to go for it. He was applauded by our common friends for this, and sold the Lumia knowing it was less-approved by our mutual acquaintances. He has now, this week, begun insisting that the iPhone 4S he has now is a lot nicer than the Lumia 710... better camera, more apps, etc. So, yet one more friend of mine has dropped from non-Apple freedom of choice to accept the Apple ecostrangulationsystem. I have only a couple of local friends left who are not iPhoners yet, and then myself and my parents. There is just something sick about it... yeah... come and get an iPhone and be popular, CREATIVE, and UNIQUE like all the rest of us! Seriously it is like a drug to this community I live in!

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 19:35 1

74. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Do you hear what you're saying? He tried out the Lumia and didn't like it. He then gets an iPhone and uses that. He decides he likes the iPhone better after using both phones. He made an informed decision. You somehow feel this is sickening.

Why can't he objectively like the iPhone better?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 22:07

82. hepresearch (unregistered)

It is for this reason, even if for no other, that Android is doomed and iOS will rule the roost in the US... the fact that the average US consumer, and a large majority of US consumers at that, does not have any appreciation for freedom, and takes convenience for-granted, will land Android's US marketshare in dire straits. When Apple's iPhone is THE informed choice, and anything else is tagged as a cheap immitation and uninformed, according to your peers, then what do you really expect to see in the behavior of other people around you? They are like the moths drawn to the light of the fire... they are like the flies attracted to the swarm of their fellows already hanging from the flypaper...

I am not saying that the iPhone is a bad device. On the contrary, it is quite a nice device by most accounts, and the vastly overwhelming majority of people I know in-person here agree that it is their favorite device by far. The only people I know who gather to support anything else are generally meeting in these communities online... so, I am really only saying that I am observing what I see as an unhealthy attraction and peer-pressure that is entirely biased to the iPhone and other Apple devices, to the point that non-Apple consumers like me get pushed around a lot and bullied, and to the point that it is generally socially accepted (among my peers) that the only choice in mobile that actually makes sense is "iPhone/iPad... and not the fake ones!"

I recently failed to land a job interview because it was made known that I did not already have my own iPhone... I am in the process of talking to the BBB and the PA Dept of Labor over this. I am arguing that it is discrimination based on my PERSONAL mobile preferences, which is rediculous! Hopefully, the state attorney general will agree with me at some point...

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 15:12 2

63. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4210; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

I can see why he thinks this. If his friend had said, I don't like this phone, I'm going to give the iphone a try, that would ne one thing. But for him to call a Windows phone "not a real iphone", that's saying he thinks that all smartphones are iphones or knockoffs of the iphone. There were smartphones before the iphone, granted not as capable as the smartphones we have today. But that's technology, we have things today we didn't have previously. His friend's comment would be like if someone bought a chevy back in the 20s, got rid of it, because it wasn't a real ford. If anything you've got to give it to apple's marketing department. You can immediately spot an apple ad. Other companies put out ads, but most of the time you can tell it's an apple ad within 3 seconds, where others you may have to wait until halfway thru or even until the end to know which company is behind the ad.

This is one of the reasons why the apple/samsung trial on samsung looking like an apple product may go in apple's favor. Not because it has merit (there are literally tons of consumer products that resemble each other) but because people are not informed shoppers. If they don't know that a device with samsung printed on it isn't an apple product, that's not samsung's fault, that's the consumer being a moron. This is where apple's advertising genius may backfire on them. They have saturated the airwaves with their ads that a good portion of the buying public (mostly those not on sites like this one) call any smartphone an iphone. It's the same way with verizon's droid campaign. Even on android sites there are people that call any android a "droid". Now they may just be abbreviating the name, but there are some who literally think that all android phones are from the Droid line. That just shows that verizon's marketing worked, but it also means that the consumer thinks he's getting a phone from the Droid line when in fact he's getting an lg optimus or an htc desire. If he really wanted a phone from the Droid line, the only way he could do that was to go to verizon to get one. But people seem to grasp the most famous version of what they're looking for and call it by that name. It's no different than people calling all tissues Kleenex or all gelatin desserts Jello. Hopefully that clears up what he is talking about.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:08 1

83. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Maybe its because of this?

"He then sold the Lumia. He told me, "It just wasn't the same as a REAL iPhone."

I had no idea WP7 was a fake iPhone....or even considered one.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 14:14

61. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

youre an idiot. maybe he didnt like that stupid windows phone. i dont like windows phones... he's probably the same way. i also have an iphone because i like the way it works. it does everything i need it to do. im not saying that im only about apple products either. im considering getting a razr here soon.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 15:22 2

64. VZWuser76 (Posts: 4210; Member since: 04 Mar 2010)

Just like what I told taco. If he didn't like his windows phone, fine that's his preferrence. But for him to call a lumia phone not a "real iphone " implies that any smartphone is either an iphone or an iphone knockoff. While there are some who believe this, most of them simply know the iphone by their advertising and don't bother to differentiate between them and their competition. Just like people calling all tissues Kleenex, all gelatin desserts Jello, all chocolate milk mixes Quick, and all reciprocating saws a Sawzall. While those brands are the most popular, that doesn't mean that every similar product is that brand.

To put it in clearer terms, it's like if his friend had bought a chevy and returned it because it wasn't a "real ford". See what I mean?

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 15:38

65. thedarkside (Posts: 652; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

i understand what you mean. i got my iphone when androids werent really well known, and i like it. im not saying i dont like android. i truely believe that theyre pretty solid OS. ive never had a good experience with a windows phone, so i choose not to buy one.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 19:39

75. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

sounds like you want people to like what you like

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:28 1

80. hepresearch (unregistered)

Well, taco, that's actually more like what you sound like...

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:11

84. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

Sound like you need to brush up on your reading comprehension...

Cuz you totally misread, didnt understand his and the other post.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 21:27 2

79. hepresearch (unregistered)

VZWuser76... you are spot on, my friend. That is exactly what I mean, and that is exactly what goes on around me all the time when it comes to mobile devices. The ubiquity is being enforced to brand-specific loyalty in these parts by perr-pressure... Kleenex... Jello... iPhone... yep, that just about sums it all up.

I was out at a street-rod show up in town tonight, and a bunch of teenage (I guess, they acted like it) kids were sitting nearby where I was with my folks... they all had iPhones, and were bragging to each other about how "new" each of their phones were... one kid was sporting a "New" iPad, and one other kid had a 3GS instead of a 4S, and he got laughed at briefly as he explained that his parents would be getting him a 4S very soon... then I answered a call, and they all laughed at my Sony Ericsson instead, and then shouted me down like the morons they really wanted to act like.

Taco, you should move out to where I am, you would probably fit right in. They might elect you to be the mobile device sheriff, for all I know...

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:40

87. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

Where is this fantasy world where people are ridiculed for not having iPhones? I've literally never seen anyone attacked for their phone choice except on the Internet where fandroids attack Apple users.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:52 3

89. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

Sorry to say, Taco, but I see it all the time. In fact, I had one asshole come in with his mother, and the whole time I'm trying to explain what her phone options were, he kept saying (without letting her speak) "She wants an iPhone. She's getting an iPhone." I wanted to smack him. If she gets an iPhone, great, but let it be HER GODDAMN CHOICE.

posted on 02 Jun 2012, 23:56

90. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

No you weren't let it be her choice. You were trying to talk her out of an iPhone because of your irrational hate for Apple and he put you in your place.

That btw isn't an example of someone being ridiculed for not having an iPhone.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 00:17 2

91. Sniggly (Posts: 7305; Member since: 05 Dec 2009)

No, dumbass, I was presenting her with a choice. If I have twenty phones on a table, it is completely f**king irresponsible for me to not let someone know that their options extend beyond one, especially when there are phones which could have met her needs for less money. This asshole didn't trust his mother to make a choice based on what was presented.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 19:07

96. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)

If a customers is making an informed choice only an asshole like you tries to talk them into something they don't want.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 23:15 1

97. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

I have come to believe that taco really doesnt have reading comprehension...or just gets off on being on the other side of debates that favor Apple.

Basically...he's an iFan.

So dont waste your time..lol.

Thats the same thing I did, do with my kids and their mother. She has an iPhone 4 and Nexus S. Both phones were stolen. And only the insurance options turns her away from the iPhone and the iPad.

There were instances she grabbed her Nexus S more. Using GPS and getting games. Too many hurdles for getting apps for her iPhone. And there was something that could only be done with Wifi on the iPhone.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 18:58 1

95. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)

And Apple users are sooo innocent in the fanboy wars....


You my friend.....need something else to occupy your time. You must get off on all the negative energy...

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 11:57

98. hepresearch (unregistered)

Well, taco, you would have several options here... you could come to live in the Southern Farms development of Shrewsbury, PA 17361 (where I live), or you could try out Loganville, PA (I forget their zipcode, but they're just up the road), or you could also try the south end of York, PA, down off of South Queen Street. Don't go to New Freedom, PA, though... less iPhoners and more featurephone-people there... like me. By the way, the "featurephone-people" reference is just to remind you that you referred to non-iPhone users as "dump-people" in a prior conversation... =8-P

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 16:22 1

104. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Wow, you are really close to where I grew up, hep. I have a lot of family in York and grew up between York n Hanover out in the middle of nowheresville. My grandparents used to have a store in the queensgate shopping center right there on S. Queen street.

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 19:45

106. hepresearch (unregistered)

Holey... Moley... small world! I grew up going to the LDS church sitting on the hill above the Queensgate shopping center, on Hollywood Drive next door to the JCC. I go to the LDS church out in New Oxford now... the New Oxford Young Single-Adult (YSA) Branch. Out of curiosity, which store did your grandparents own down at the shopping center? I used to go to the theater there all the time, now its been remodeled, sold, and renamed the Frank Theaters. Been there only twice in the last three years. There is also an AT&T corporate store there now, been there just a couple of years now so far. Anyway, did you live near either Jefferson or Spring Grove?

+1 for sharing, by the way...

Sorry, it's just so rare to run into somebody on the internet, unknowingly or by accident, who happens to know about things out here in the middle of "nowheresville PA"...

posted on 04 Jun 2012, 21:42 1

108. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

They owned White Jewlers. It was like the first store on the left as you went in. My uncle bought it from my grandfather and moved it down the street somewhere. Yea, tiny world dude. I used to go to the Bobs Big Boy right there all the time before it shut down. Hell I saw jurassic park for the first time in that theater. :)
I doubt you've been there (maybe passed through without realizing) but I lived in a tiny town called East Berlin out there between york and hanover (were 234 meets 194) for the bulk of my youth before moving to FL. I lived in both Jefferson (right at the circle) and Spring grove, as well as York New Salem.
Yea, I got a lot of family that still lives there, red lion, windam hills, philly, over by ski round top, and all round that area.

I can tell ya one thing, i miss the color changes in the fall. I took my wife up there for the first time a few years ago and she had never seen anything like it. Drove her through lancaster on the way to philly and she made me stop so she could take video because we happen to catch an actual barn raising and she found it fascinating. lol.

Im not familiar with the LDS church myself, but I think I know which building it is in my head. I used to get drug down to some big catholic church down down. Very pretty. Religion was never my thing though.

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 07:41

109. hepresearch (unregistered)

Awesome!!! I do remember passing the White Jewelers there, but that was some time ago. And the Bob's Big Boy has been turned into one of those big chain restaraunts, I forget which one. You know, I saw Jurassic Park in that theater, too... my parents took me and my brother to see it when I was in the 8th grade, and my mom has avoided all dinosaur-related action-movies ever since... mostly thanks to the portrayal of the velociraptors. I have been to East Berlin... my dad bought a used van up there last year, and I went on a couple dates, once upon a time, with a lady I know from church who lives up there with her parents. So, yeah, I do know about East Berlin... haha! My brother and his family live near Jefferson these days, just north of Chodorus Lake and the adjoining park area. My sister-in-law's grandmother still lives in Red Lion to this day. As for Spring Grove, well, the paper mill there still stinks to high heavens... whenever the wind blows just right, we catch a whiff of that all the way down in Shrewsbury!

I managed to live in CA for a couple years, in the bay area, and when I came back to PA I realized how much I missed the trees and the change in color of the autumn season, so I understand completely. I didn't miss the humidity, though. I also lived in Lancaster County for a little while... spent a year as the public library director in a little river town called Columbia... and had a great time there (when I was at work, and not stuck in the house with my angry angry now-ex-wife).

Yeah, not many people out east know too much about the church I go to. Out in Utah and Idaho it is like 40% of the population that shares my faith, but out here in PA we are like 1 in 1000. I was one of the only Mormon kids in my school growing up, and I got bullied and picked on for it, and for many other goofy things that kids back then considered "uncool". Oh well... but yeah, its the one at the top of the hill above the shopping center, next to the upper exit from the shopping center parking lot that winds up the hill. Most folks have seen it in passing at some point if they ever drive down Hollywood Drive regularly. I am not terribly familiar with any of the Catholic churches in the city, but the JCC and the synagogue are quite well known to me, as they sit just down the street from the LDS church there. Wow... small world indeed! Thanks so much for sharing! It is great to hear from someone who knows this place out here like I do.

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 08:09 1

110. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

ha.. thats hilarious. you stalking my life??? lolol. You ever make it over to Hanover? There was a skating rink in there that I spent a lot of my youth nights.

PA's humidity is nothing to FL's. I feel like i got a shower while I was walking the dog this morning. UGH.. and it wasnt even hot out yet. Before the hot afternoon rain its like breathing water.
Almost no one knows where EB is. I'm impressed. It used to be half the size it is now.. which is saying something. I laughed last time I drove through it, because where there used to be nothing but a big hill on the left as you go over the little bridge, is nothing but cookie cutter homes.. and they stick out so bad since the rest of the town is filled with civil war era houses.

just looked up the center on G-maps. Definitely remember that building.

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 12:34

111. hepresearch (unregistered)

Hahaha... almost seems that way! I always pass through Hanover on the way to New Oxford, so I go by there often, and have some friends there who I know from church. I don't remember ever going to a skating rink over there, but I do go to the Walk for Autism every year at the YMCA in North Hanover to volunteer time and donate money (when I have money). It is on the 16th of June this year, so I'll be there again, as usual.

If you are referring to that small metal bridge out on East Berlin Road... I have to say that every time I pass over that thing, I cringe because it is loud, rough, and rickety as all-get-out these days, no matter how slowly you try to go over the thing... I'm worried that it'll bust somebody's tires or mess up their suspension or alignment one of these days. PA roads have always been rather terrible and yet overly-numerous.

I went to FL once. I must have been there in the dry season, because on the way to Orlando from Cocoa Beach we passed an area where wildfires had jumped across the highway and burned the trees on both sides of the road. The place smelled of fire and smoke, and there was soot and ash falling from the air onto the road. It was in mid-May back in 2006, as I recall.

It really is so freaking funny that we both share memories of the York/Adams Counties region in common... if the commonalities ran any deeper, it would be just slightly creepy, too... hahaha!!!

posted on 05 Jun 2012, 15:32

112. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)

Where I moved after PA, was Melbourne, FL.. which is just like 20 mins south of cocoa. I spent a lot of time there chasing girls and roaming around Orlando before they started shutting the clubs down at 2am (used to be sunrise). so, you really are following me around.. lol. In 06 i was up here in Jax though, so your safe.. lol

With all the common areas It wouldnt even be surprising that we come across common friends/friends of friends.

I remember the fires your talking about. They burned for a good few days. That happens every once a while. During late fall - spring it almost never rains. It rains like clockwork all summer long. You can literally set a timer to it.

posted on 03 Jun 2012, 15:21

94. jroc74 (Posts: 6005; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)


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