Top 5% of Verizon's unlimited data users over 3G now subject to Network Optimization
Verizon says it offers many ways to monitor your account during the month. From a PC you can go to "My Verizon" or "My Verizon Mobile" from a handset to obtain real time usage data. The carrier also offers a Data Use Calculator where you can plug in how many minutes of video or music you stream over Verizon's 3G pipes every month and get an estimate of much data you are consuming. Available on Big Red's Android phones and some BlackBerry models is a widget that will show your data usage with a quick glance at the screen. You can also click on the widget to reach "My Verizon".
95% of Verizon's 3G customers with unlimited data plans will not be affected. You probably will be under the 2GB monthly threshold even if you send 7,500 emails a month, visit 750 web sites, stream 150 minutes of music, watch 1 hour of high-resolution video, 5 hours of low-resolution video and upload 60 pictures. You should also be outside of the top 5% of data users if during the month you sent 7,500 emails, visit 150 web pages, view 1 hour of hi-resolution video, 5 hours of low-resolution video and upload 300 pictures.
Separate from Network Optimization, in certain markets, Verizon has already started its previously announced Video Optimization which means that data is sent efficiently in order to benefit the greatest number of users and could affect the way certain data files appear on your phone.
Typical data use on a smartphone
As the carrier has repeatedly made clear, you can reduce your chances of being in the top 5% and going over the 2GB monthly bar by using Wi-Fi whenever possible, switching to a 4G device, switching to a tiered data plan, or perhaps the most unsatisfactory option-cutting back on multimedia use and browsing on your phone. You can check out the entire web page by clicking on the sourcelink.
source: Verizon via 9to5Mac
1. Michael111111111 (unregistered)
wow this sucks, in Singapore we get 10gb / month for only 12 USD and that's with tendering allowed without any limitation as long as we don't cross the 10gb mark.
21. Michael111111111 (unregistered)
Yeah, competition makes things go cheaper for the consumers.
That is the price for all 3 major carrier here, Singtel, M1, and Starhub.
It starts at 10USD per gb per month at first and drop rapidly after 3 months to what it is now.
25. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
well u also have to think about how small of an area those carriers have to cover. they are able to make a greater service for a much cheaper price...
2. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I always feel uncomfortable comparing smaller networks to the ones in the US. A lot of foreign carriers are limited to the area of just a few states in the US and about the same user base for those states. But I do think they overcharge for data.
I knew this would happen though. AT&T completely threw off the gloves on data and Verizon isn't the bad guy because they didn't start it..."just going with the market trend." We will keep seeing this until people start communicating a different way. This is why voice plans are going down and text/data plans are going up.
5. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Just because someone else jumps off a bridge doesn't mean you have to.
I agree, the coverage that US customers demand in such a large country could be a reason for costs/limits... but maybe not...
I know nothing about the costs of running a 3g/4g network but it could be possible that they are making a TON of money off their current pricing.
While crappy it's what the "market" can bear, until people drop service due to cost/features why would they drop prices/increase limits etc???
AT&T/VZW are the big players on the block, they almost always mimic each others moves, eventually. One view could be that they both have similar problems/costs... another is they are essentially price fixing.
THAT is the reason why the t-mo buyout is bad for consumers.
35. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5289; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
"THAT is the reason why the t-mo buyout is bad for consumers."
+n. Couldn't have said it better. If AT&T-Mobile goes through, be prepared to be f*cked on pricing and service levels.
51. JeffdaBeat (unregistered)
I'm not saying it's right at all. But I think if you're going to be against something, you at least need to figure out the throughout process behind what's going on. I think the only front I will defend cellular carriers is on size and scope of their network. We can't look at all parts of the world and see that this carrier offers unlimited data for $10 and expect that it will work on larger carriers.
But again, Verizon will follow AT&T. People have short memories almost Nineteen Eighty Four style. AT&T does it and in a few months, it's how things are always done so why be mad at Verizon for adjusting to market trend? I saw the same thing from the time AT&T dropped unlimited for air cards and Sprint was the last to follow. Even though it happened in a small window, people weren't outraged at Sprint.
3. thatjackal (unregistered)
Wait, they aren't throttling my 4G yet? I was under the impression.... shweet.
4. TKFox007 (Posts: 303; Member since: 02 Nov 2010)
I knew that the threshold was going to be 2gb. But at least they've instructed people on how to avoid it, like WiFi.
I don't blame wireless carriers for doing what they did. It's the customer's fault for not using WiFi and causing network congestion. If people just used WiFi, AT&T wouldn't of been so bogged down and causing all these problems.
This is probably going to be a temporary. As we start to transition to more mobile technology and networking, they're going to have to bring back unlimited data because there just won't be any other way, the manufacturer's devices are going to require unlimited data.
8. BrockSamson (unregistered)
I love how they suggest that you use wifi instead of cell data to avoid congestion yet won't let you use the phone without a cell data plan.
34. Penny (Posts: 989; Member since: 04 Feb 2011)
The point about it being the user's fault for not using WiFi instead would be valid if AT&T didn't implement a cap there as well. If they tell me to go use WiFi to get unlimited data, I would tell them that they recently capped my DSL data as well. The worst part is how they always say it will only affect the top 2%, then next time they lower it and say the top 5%, and then after that they'll eventually say the top 10%...
I agree that unlimited will eventually be back, but the carriers will hold off on it as long as possible. The technology to easily provide true unlimited data will come around, then it will take the consumers a while to realize it can be easily implemented and demand it of the carriers, and then finally the carriers will be forced to offer it.
BTW, this comment applies to both AT&T and Verizon, and all the other Telecom oligopolies out there.
6. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
Saying that 5% of the 3g users use over 2GB a month, is a stretch IMO the top 5% of users are over 10GB a month probably is the right amount for the top 5%. That is why that is the number allowed for the new pricing as the highest plan
20. KParks23 (Posts: 422; Member since: 13 Oct 2010)
I agree 2 gb is not much data I'm at 6 gigs and still got 15 days left.. Pandora and netflix and YouTube is the culprit I'm not sure where VZW is getting there numbers from but I'm not buying it top 5% should be around 7 or 8 gigs.
7. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
Unlimited is Unlimited use a dictionary and educate yourself... This is NOT the customer's "fault" it is a problem Verizon made for itself.
That said... IF this works like Verizon is saying, only throttling on congested towers etc, I really do have to commend them on it. This is one of the few policies that seem to take logical approach to manage traffic.
Personally though I think this is just a ploy to get people to tiered service. 2+GB is the 5% of high users? Why do they then have a 3GB plan (which is effectively the lowest a smartphone user can get)? Seems like it would make more sense the "unlimited" cut-off would be 3GB???? Would it not???
These limits and tiered structure is also telling... If 2+GB is truly the top 5% of usage... Why isn't there 1GB and 2GB etc plans????
I agree though unlimited probably will come back... I would assume this will happen with LTE-Advanced. Wireless carriers if they were smart, would try and take over the ISP market. With high enough speeds, people would be more then willing to pay to have all their internet connectivity under one bill.
10. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
unlimited data isnt coming back. they've been trying to get away from it for years. People will pay to have it all under 1 bill, but people will pay more for it to work anywhere, which is why VZW gets to charge so much to begin with... because it works everywhere.
58. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
Don't think your a VZW customer, 2GB is the lowest , then 5GB then 10GB, there is no 3GB.
9. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
wow, so you are going to pay VZW prices for "unlimited" and then be throttled at 2gb for the trouble? on their pokey "3g" service??!?!?!? no offence, but at this point in the game, 1mbs 3g is throttled.. lol. wow
i normally defend VZW pretty readily, but im having a hard time with this one. I could see a 5gig throttle back, but 2?!? Not at that pricing. VZW has network to spare as they spend more than anyone making sure of it so its not about network integrity.
Tmobile throttles back, but 2 gig with unlimited talk and text starts at 60 a month, not 140... and thats for full speed 42mb/s 4g, not 1mb/s 3g.
52. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3516; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Yes to me something is wrong with this Verizon pricing structure. I agree throttling should begin at 5 GB, that is fair. 2 GB especially with the YouTube, Netflix, Hulu’s of the world & all the new upstarts is just not enough. Why even offer those services on a Smartphone if they are going to get throttled after 2 small GB's. That is not even mentioning air-cards. I think this is going to get unbearable, & change will happen yet again. The way mobile tech is advancing 2 GB to the average user will just not be enough.
11. downphoenix (Posts: 2235; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
I see this as Verizon breaching the contract terms they have with their unlimited data users, they effectively are killing unlimited data because the throttling, if it works like tmobile, will be so horrendous you might as well not even use your phone until your allotment comes back.
12. downphoenix (Posts: 2235; Member since: 19 Jun 2010)
if the affected Verizon customers are smart, they would file a class action lawsuit against them and start looking for another carrier. Unfortunately, given that they choose Verizon despite the highest prices in the industry, I dont see this happening.
46. KFear (unregistered)
read the contracts. it is not a breach
13. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Android phones are data hogs. They consume data and ruin it for everyone.
16. nwright94 (unregistered)
When i owned my iPhone on a 200mb plan, i was always getting data overages even when i never used it. I had E-mail fetching turned to manual and i didn't use the internet. I would somehow go to 600mb by the end of the month. We called AT&T and they said iPhones have "ghost data" problems and they can't control it. I got an android phone an had no problem keeping under 200mb and my wp7 is even better with data. So i think you meant to say "iPhones are data hogs". Afterall, verizon and AT&T both got rid of unlimited AFTER they got the iPhone, not android.
29. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
uh huh, sure. And I'm the king of switzerland.
30. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
actually, miz that was a hugely reported problem for a while. Maybe u should look in PAs old articles and read up on it.
47. taco50 (banned) (Posts: 5506; Member since: 08 Oct 2009)
I remember those reports, but I don't believe he was being billed for 600mb without using Internet. Sounds like user error.
48. nwright94 (unregistered)
If you look online alot of peoples ghost data pushed them to near 600mb. I'm dead serious, i didn't use the internet when i was on the 200mb plan. I had data turned off. Believe me or don't believe me, but that iPhone was terrible on data.
54. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
there was some pretty high usage numbers. it wasnt actually a problem with the phone as much as it was with ATT autobilling every iphone so much data, and a rogue app that was sending data nonstop. 2 seperate issues that both resulted in ghost data.
33. nwright94 (unregistered)
Okay, don't believe me but it was a real problem. I'm sorry you're so blinded by your love of Apple.
17. Heatfan316 (Posts: 266; Member since: 21 Aug 2011)
There is something wrong with you kid!!! Do yourself a favor and see a psychologist.
28. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Hey I'm not the one named after a basketball team that lost the playoffs. And lol, they got Lebon James and they still lost, not like he was any good to begin with.
37. StillStuckWithDroid (Posts: 65; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
no....you just the one that is a freaking homosexual with sexual fantasies about a steroid infested wrestler......die
24. Whateverman (Posts: 3162; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Don't make this about Android vs iPhone. Save that for an article where it's relevant.
27. The_Miz (Posts: 1496; Member since: 06 Apr 2011)
Well it's true. Android phones consume up a lot of data with all the features they provide. Besides, I never said anything about the iPhone.
31. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
android phones dont consume data. but since its a real phone that does lots of things, people enjoy their phones more and do more things that use data. guess its more fun to not be stuck with a list of apps..
39. Whateverman (Posts: 3162; Member since: 17 May 2009)
Com'on, let's not play word games. You displayed a pretty clear dislike for Android. And anyone who has seen you post knows what side your on so let's be honest.
36. StillStuckWithDroid (Posts: 65; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
any chance I could persuade you to run out into a busy highway and get hit by a truck?
Seriously.......I would freaking dance a jig if you never came back you worthless POS....your parents should be bitchslapped
49. sgogeta4 (Posts: 390; Member since: 02 Feb 2011)
Just ignore the troll. If no one ever replies to his posts, he'll disappear as all trolls do. I don't even see his posts until I read people's comments lol.
15. colemanvzw (Posts: 1; Member since: 18 Sep 2011)
Verizon has seen a huge spike in Smartphone sales that they wanted and are always pushing for like all the other carriers but they didn't expect it so soon. In some areas the towers need to be updated so they can withstand more data for data hungry consumers. They are currently doing that in areas that are not 4G yet. That's the reason for the throttling in markets that are getting overloaded and I can understand that. It’s not like the throttling will affect everyone that exceeds 2GB a month like T Mobile consumers. It will only affect those on a tower that is overloaded at that time.
19. bambamboogy02 (unregistered)
Its only for people who still have an unlimited plan and are using the EVDO Rev O/A networks. If you have an unlimited plan on a 4G, LTE, phone, then you will not be throttled at all. EVDO data is far less efficient then LTE. So to maximize all the data usuage from 90+ million users using the EVDO phone/smart phones they have to throttle the speeds. This way everyone using the network will get the same speeds if they are on a conjested tower. Verizon has always optimized its network ever since the first EVDO aircard launched. Why is it a bad thing if a carrier is doing this to keep its network up and running, so when you have to make that important phone call, you can? I don't hear any one ragging on how verizon drops calls, or just plain doesn't work when there phone shows they have coverage. Come on people, let's be logical. Verizon is in it for the money, not to give you everything you want for cheap. Its like wanting a acura for the price of a honda. Similar in many ways, but the acura just offers more.
22. IsmellBS (unregistered)
This BS, they have the network, and they just want people to get a tiered data plan. Its all about capitalism with Verizon. They just want their customers money. I know they have an awesome network, and I agree if you want the best pay a little more, but their data packages are ridicoulous. Only thing i can think of is they set their prices so high becuz they arent rdy for the masses of people to be on their network. As if they lower their prices their data speeds will decrease significantly. But i guess people will get brainwashed into thinking always paying more is the best way to go.
26. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
VZW spends more on their network in 1 year than most do in 5. Thats why they are the most reliable. They have plenty of bandwith for their traffic and 3g only goes to 1-1.5mb/s at best on VZW. They are just trying to force people off the old unlimited plans. Unless they had a blanket "we reserve the right to reduce speeds at any time" statement in the contract, I dont see how they could do this without voiding contracts though. They need to be more upfront with this to their customers. Its true that most people never see 2 gigs a month on a phone but thats rapidly changing as netflix, hulu, and other video services go to cell phones.
23. Mooooo (Posts: 212; Member since: 27 Aug 2011)
Boy are we getting ripped off here on cell phone service in the USA compared to other countries.
32. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
we are one of the biggest land mass countries in the world. Operating a half million towers across a few thousand square miles is much different than most countries that are smaller than texas (which would be considered a large country by itself.. lol)
38. supadave (Posts: 12; Member since: 26 Mar 2010)
Canada is bigger than the US in area size so are several other countries, That’s not a valid excuse.
44. Forsaken77 (Posts: 542; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
Yeah, it's bigger in area size but that's irrelevant. The U.S. has more people in a given area. It's the amount of users, not necessarily the physical size that matters.
55. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
canada doesnt have coverage in 60% of the country because its wilderness. there is coverage virtually everywhere in america.
56. remixfa (Posts: 13902; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
VZw has thousands of towers in low population areas to get that huge national coverage they have. Someone has to pay for them, and thats the customer. Small countries that have less towers over all and more people in a smaller concentration have less network overhead.
find me another country that has such a huge land mass with 97% of it covered in cell towers. its an apples and oranges comparison.
That and we have the worlds highest corperate tax rate. Ya know who pays that? consumers do! And thats not even inlcuding federal,state, and local telecom taxes.
42. Forsaken77 (Posts: 542; Member since: 09 Jun 2011)
VZW said if you want to avoid the caps... switch to a 4G phone. So 4G is not capped, only 3G? And I most certainly think they are trying to keep their unlimited plan in check with their tiered plan. If you're on a 2GB tier then you get that amount and pay a little more if you go over. If you're on unlimited then you get the 2GB's but anything over will trickle in. Also, they said only the top 5% will be feeling this. So if you're not in the top 5% but do go over the 2GB's will they throttle you or not?
43. wp7 (unregistered)
I have a wp7. Its awesome on managing data.i have used the email service constantly used YouTube browse internet download apps and music but my monthly data is only 1gb. Awesome!
45. nwright94 (unregistered)
I also own a WP7 and i can't believe how great it is on data. My iPhone i had before was a data glutton. The atrix i got after that was pretty crazy on data too but thats because i went "4g" happy. After i had 3 defective Atrix models and got the focus, i can do as much browsing and have e-mail fetching actually turned on and i don't have to worry about going over my data cap.
50. MorePhonesThanNeeded (unregistered)
I'm on VZW and I have unlimited data and text with 450 all for 88, with a 3G Droid X. No real issue with surfing nor going over 2GB throttle junction. Honestly it doesn't bother me too much as to me it makes little sense to gobble up 5GBs worth of data on a smartphone when most of the people who do tend to have home internet as well and probably run across many wifi access points during the day. I use wifi if I have to stream a movie or anything and since I have Optimum Online I also get to use their wifi for free. Common sense will save most people from themselves, but if you for some strange reason can't use it shame on you. There is no excuse for you using that much data, and reaching 2GB on a 3G phone on VZW network is a pretty good feat, do you work at all during the day? Be a little smarter with your usage, use wifi whenever you're at home or near a free access point.
Wireless phones are still like home internet, too much usage and they will throttle your ass, home internet is worse as they will throttle you until you have very little throughput and not return it to regular speeds ever. Don't complain, you knew what was coming, the free ride will always come to an end.
My buddy just picked up the Bionic, still has his unlimited data plan and all. Honestly though because of that 4G speed, that phone eats up data quickly. I told him to start using his Optimum hot spots for wifi on the go, besides 4G eats up battery like crazy. Yes we both live in NYC so 4G isn't scarce around here in the least. I don't find the speed boost to be worth all the trouble to be honest, these LTE radios are crappy on portable batteries at least you can turn the damn 4G radio off. But seriously these things need to be advanced at a much faster rate than they are moving now, it's a terrible resource drain.
53. unknownmojo (unregistered)
I have been selling big red for almost a decade and can say that VZW protects their network integrity/reliability over everything else. VZW is willing to lose customers before they'll lose reliability. Think about it, it's what VZW has branded itself with. The reason people go with VZW is for their network. VZW is the most expensive carrier in the US and yet has the most customers. There's a reason for that, it's reliability. If VZW thinks smartphones are a threat to that reliability, they'll do whatever it takes to "throttle" that threat. Because who would pay a premium for a network that was no more reliable that the rest. Verizon makes decisions today based on where they want to be 5 years from now.
60. A-Riley (Posts: 1; Member since: 13 Sep 2011)
I for one am not happy about this at all. I know for a fact that I go over 2gbs of data/month and I will be damned before I have my speeds throttled. I signed up with verizon under the impression unlimited was unlimited no matter what. That's how it was sold to me. Now Verizon is doing this and I feel as though I have been stabbed in the back. I bought my Android phone so that I could basically do whatever I wanted on it and not have to worry. If I have to get a 4G device, im gonna talk to them in a way to where they give it to me for free or at a very very steep discount. More then the 2 year agreement offer.
61. Ipodmypod300 (unregistered)
I want this to end. I want Verizon to bring back the unlimited data plan altogether! Please help me out with this! Sign my petition please: http://www.change.org/petition
62. draklon13 (Posts: 1; Member since: 14 Mar 2012)
If you guys are interested in getting unlimited data well feel free to call me at 310-569-0728 or email me at email@example.com. I work for a private ompany that has Verizon unlimited data in Los Angeles. If you live near the Los Angeles area then I will email or give you the addres over the phone but if your out of state we can help too. Please no transaction deals from africa I will ignore you. We also have unlimited data for MIFI but only 3g