How do you see Google's acquisition of Motorola Mobility?
And even though these guys are trying to convince us that all manufacturers within the Android ecosystem are to remain equal, we just can't shake this feeling inside, telling us that it's highly-likely for Motorola phones to start getting software updates that bit earlier than others. And if Google is really devoted to that acquisition, and isn't buying Motorola for its patents alone (which makes this acquisition so much less interesting for us), we surely doubt that stuff like the Blur UI is going to stay in the long run. Something is surely going to change, we just don't know what it is yet. But enough speculation, let us hear what you think about this!
- How do you see Google's acquisition of Motorola Mobility?
711 votes (711 votes) I'm totally in for it!
277 votes (277 votes) I guess this will at least balance the patent war.
146 votes (146 votes) I'm a bit hesitant. How is this supposed to help Android OS?
48 votes (48 votes) It's just a waste of money.
1. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3450; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Nothing but good can come from this. Google NOW has the ammunition to protect Android, HTC & Samsung from the ultimate patent troll Apple. This will be good for the mobile industry because NOW EVERYONE can concentrate on making BETTER phones & tablets, NOT who has the better legal team. WIN WIN for all!
3. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
Yes, this is best for everyone.
Except Nokia and Microsoft, but they dug that ditch.
14. iwebdroidberry7 (Posts: 230; Member since: 17 Jan 2011)
I think its pretty confusing for one. Didn't Motorola JUST say it would "protecting its IP" from other Android manufacturers, so if Google is in charge of Moto, doesn't that mean that they are gonna be in charge of striking down OEMs?
17. Lucas777 (Posts: 2121; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
exactly... and they also made a statement saying they wud look into windows phones... guess none of all that will happen... but i don't see how this will help htc, it pretty much just helps google... and--i personally think this might backfire for google with companies such as htc because they will not be protected by google, who is just (dare i say by cheating) saving their own butt... htc lg etc won't get the special android treatment and might turn to the wp7 approach...
19. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
Again why would Google not want as many manufacturers to carry their OS as possible, do you think that they are going to put the life of Android into one basket.
Maybe they will begin to release these makers phones under a Google name ex. the "Google Awesome" (made by Samsung) to protect it with its new found wealth of patents.
23. protozeloz (Posts: 5290; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
there are actually happy about this and yes they can cover on Google's new patents sine they are using the android system Google can help them with this..... they simply can defend now
an why is it cheating?
48. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
or they might turn to WebOS, MeeGo or if samsung allows it bada.
21. protozeloz (Posts: 5290; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
1. it was a rumor saying that moto would do that, not a fact
2. when that was said there was not an agreement yet, now that Google owns Motorola things change. hopefully for the better
24. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
It's great for me, since Samsung will now push bada even more : )
49. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
I do lika bada, yes : )
I also like MeeGo and WebOS.
33. jroc74 (Posts: 3645; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
First the sketches...now this...all the claims of protecting their innovations are becoming less and less believable...and the claims of being scared of the competition are becoming more and more real.
I so hope Samsung wins this case.
39. Tmachaveli (Posts: 425; Member since: 01 Apr 2011)
wow apple is shady as hell for that i just read the report
43. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3450; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
NeXoS I am so glad you asked that question. They report everything else, yet this they don't. I was at AndroidAndMe.com & when I read that I was waiting for PhoneArena.com report it so I can post on it. Maybe PhoneArena.com is showing their true colors? I mean they did 2 blind camera comparison which are supposedly 100% biased, yet they used the iPhone 4 2 times. Mmm if that is not shady than what is? What about the Nokia N8? Why not use that phone instead of the iPhone 4? PhoneArena.com needs to address this article that appeared on AndroidAndMe.com or maybe they SHOULD change their name to iPhoneArena.com. I am glad you called them out, because I would have done it tomorrow morning if they didn't post anything about that article. It's been more than 8 hours & STILL no mention of that article on PhoneArena.com.
53. SuperAndroidEvo (Posts: 3450; Member since: 15 Apr 2011)
Wow my reply to you comment NeXoS was actually removed because I guess I got under their skin. I said that I would call them out if I didn't see any mention of this article. They finally mentioned the article a FULL day late! I think PhoneArena.com does have a bias toward Apple because they censored everything I said. I also brought up the fact the they have had 2 blind phone comparisons & included the iPhone 4 both times. I called out PhoneArena.com for doing that & I guess they didn't like that also. I think the blind camera phone tests are for the iPhone 4 only because it's the same phone vs. different phones on BOTH tests. Also PhoneArena.com why won't you test the Nokia N8? I am very upset with PhoneArena.com & their censorship. It looks like it's NOT PhoneArena.com, BUT more like iPhoneArena.com. Losing credibility very fast iPhoneArena.com! I guess there is not free speech in iPhoneArena.com huh? It’s not like I used foul language, it’s straight censorship what they did to my comment!
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2. protozeloz (Posts: 5290; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
I think this was a great idea! I've being wanting something like this to happen
4. bossmt_2 (Posts: 412; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
I like it honestly. Gives Google their best chance to compete with the iPhone on a phone basis.
5. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
NOOOOOOOOO, it gives Google a chance to compete with the iDiotPhone on a laptop basis, check yourself before you post. Captain Redundency
11. bossmt_2 (Posts: 412; Member since: 13 Oct 2009)
Maybe I should have clarified my point. Even though Android is the number one phone OS, no Android Device sells like the iPhone, Google releasing their own line of phones on all carriers that's actually made in house, gives them the best shot of beating Apple in the battle to have the top selling smartphone.
22. protozeloz (Posts: 5290; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
nexus is not on all carriers :/ and not available everywhere
34. jroc74 (Posts: 3645; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
If Google can have Verizon's Droid marketing behind a Nexus phone....it could help. Help...but thats it.
But you're right...no Nexus phone has been really popular with the general public. Better advertising might have helped it.
The only way for it to truly compete against the iPhone is to only use Motorola tho. So I hope that doesnt happen.
The iPhone has a specific market, Android has a specific market. Let them rule their respective markets.
20. darth8ball (Posts: 519; Member since: 02 Aug 2011)
Now you are trying to take business from the makers helping to push your OS. Don't you think they want their OS to rule not a single device? Aquiring Moto Mobile is about patents for Google, operating capitol for Moto.
6. lubbalots (unregistered)
The purpose of this buy is to bail out moto, financially. Moto can not compete with HTC or Samsung. And helps defend the patent war. What innovation can come out of this? Probably not much. Motorola did well initially with android but not anymore because android competition is more fierce. This one of the main reasons why Elop of nokia did not choose android. Moto/google compete with iphone! No! Moto can't even compete with HTC or samsung. This buy is all about the patent and saving motod neck.
25. NeXoS (Posts: 277; Member since: 03 May 2011)
Elop is a wuss. The smartphone market share is still small. There's plenty of room for all the major Android OEMs to win.
7. Razer2911 (unregistered)
So can we presume that the next Nexus phone would be from Motorola?
8. protozeloz (Posts: 5290; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
could be could be not, it could also mean we may see some atrix like features on ICS
9. lolno (unregistered)
If Google begins to give Moto an edge within android. Where does that leave HTC, Samsung and SE? I´m sure Samsung will manage, they are big enough but SE and HTC will probably be stuck in a problematic situation. Maybe they´ll turn to meego?
Suddenly Nokia's strategy (or lack of it) doesn´t seem that crazy anymore. I wouldn´t be surprised at all if MS buys up Nokia in order to secure their patents.
I fu**ing love this industry :)
Way better than TV!
27. NeXoS (Posts: 277; Member since: 03 May 2011)
NOK is so cheap right now, it would be sweet to see a hostile takeover of Nokia by Google!
Combined, Google would have 27,000 patents, 7k more than Microsoft and 3x more than Apple!
50. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Hope Samsung would by Nokia rather than Google
29. ngo2dd (Posts: 759; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
Why would it matter? HTC and SE never had an edge in Android anyway. Beside the Nexus one what edge has HTC gotten?
10. luis_lopez_351 (Posts: 951; Member since: 18 Nov 2010)
If it does happen, Google better bring motorola back the the U.S.
12. WirelessCon (Posts: 309; Member since: 11 May 2010)
Android will remain an open platform.
Motorola handsets may get the latest and greatest version of Android a little faster, but most of that is still in the hands of the carriers.
15. evoMike (Posts: 10; Member since: 29 Jul 2011)
Or ninjablur or stealthblur or whatever they call it now...
16. fwaits (unregistered)
Well keep in mind Apple and Microsoft are both already suing Moto before this for patent issues, and most of Moto's patents are hardware based. Not sure if this changes much in that respect since they obviously weren't too afraid of Moto's 17,000 patents then. Time will tell.
28. ltr (unregistered)
On a mobile stand point its good.
I am sure Samsung and LG are fine. Remember they make other things like really nice tvs and appliances. I am not sure about their mobile future is but maybe they might look to join Google or do something else.
HTC, is probably they need more than Beats Audio now.
Sony Ericcson was supposed to make a big splash with android and mobile devices, not sure what they are up to now.
30. ngo2dd (Posts: 759; Member since: 08 Jul 2011)
Why would it matter? Android is open source, Google makes all their android money from Ads. You really think Google is going put all their eggs in one basket. Motorola don't have a well define bands like the iphone. Google need all the OEM to make android. HTC, SE and other non-nexus phone never get the first update.
36. ltr (unregistered)
I just think HTC, being a small mobile business might not make a enough money in the long run. I expect HTC to do a little more expansion to their line if they want to survive.
I just think HTC needs to be more different in their android offerings. Windows 7 also.
I'm just looking at it from a mobile company stand point, not so much Android.
SE is well known for their GSM phones. It might push them to kinda forget their mobile division or step it up. I would love to see a SE windows phones by the way.
I'm just saying Mortorola is gonna eat up some profits
32. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
For me, it's clearly a conflict of interest between Google and the other android OEM's. Google will be competing with other android OEM's. They need to make good profits to get their $12B back.
Remember when Symbian ruled the entire mobile phone industry? Who owned Symbian? Nokia. Who was the king of them all of Symbian OEM's again? Surprise, surprise, it was Nokia.
I am not saying that the others won't do well anymore. But just like with Nokia owned Symbian, Motorola will benefit with what's the latest and greatest for android, first hand before the others do. They are partners, but competitors at the same time. Just like some athletes are competitors and friends as well. But only one can win the gold medal, and they still keep trade secrets and strategies no matter what. There will be some trust issues.
This clearly shows how Apple is right. Gotta have total control over your software and hardware to totally produce products accordingly. Google does not need to buy Moto just for their patents. They want control over the hardware specs of their android devices as well, just like how Apple does it.
40. protozeloz (Posts: 5290; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
actually Symbian was king before Nokia bought it back in 2008.... I don't think this shows anything from that, with simple control over the amount of devices pushed to the market makes a great result, also Google Needed something to back their project on, if by any chance manufacturers see more profit on other OS they don't have to fear the lack of manufacturers because they will have a phone manufacturer with them, now if you see Google's plans about android at home it only makes sense that they want the revolutionary docking capabilities found on Motorola devices, plus by doing so they are also clearing the manufacturer with the less international support and probably turning the table for Motorola, since Motorola needs a better development team and Google can provide just that, So i don't think control of hardware is a mayor reason for this purchase, even tho they adding hardware acceleration on Motorola branded devices will push others to work on their hardware acceleration(among other things) making the customer experiences better
this just proves Google is not fooling around
45. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
Let me ask you this then. Will Google be competing with Samsung, HTC, Sony, and other android OEM's or not?
Don't be naive. Google won't spend $12B if they won't gain anything from it. And please don't say it's just for the patents because they don't have to buy Moto off just for the patents.
There is conflict of interest here. Only a blind android fan would say that there's none.
51. PeterIfromsweden (Posts: 1230; Member since: 03 Aug 2011)
Agree with you on the part that google will start making their own phones.
I think all Google fans don't see that...
I'm not a isheep myself, i use bada so i can see this from another wiew
56. protozeloz (Posts: 5290; Member since: 16 Sep 2010)
How about the fact that they will always have a company that will make phones for them? have you considered the number of patents Google will posses? its almost 3X the number of patents they wanted to get from Nortel. but what about development? all of android Ideas Motorola had now belong to the maker of android, including the web top witch is a tool they could use for their android @ home project that will make them millions. so lets sum things up
-Patents needed to defend android [Check]
-A permanent manufacturer that wont leave their ecosystem [check]
-Lots of Hidden ideas and projects that never saw the light of the day(Motorola is well knows for giving the wrong steps into the right direction)[Check]
-The web top as probably the easiest way to get their android @ home project completed[Check]
-all the hardware they can put their hands on for testing purposes[Check]
-Rid of Moto-Android problem outside US[Check]
also where I said things wont change? or that Google wont compete with others? I just said Google is not trying to consolidate hardware and software as you sated above, now why would Google like to put traps on other manufacturers? they are making money from them anyways, this may just mean that will see Motorola making better phones(and hopefully a lesser number of them too) now that Google has a closer look at the hardware the chances of seeing hardware acceleration on android phones is much more likely to happen than ever...... whats the worst Google can do? nexus only on Moto? manufactures get their hands on whatever version comes out and work it as they do....
41. wumberpeb (Posts: 393; Member since: 14 Mar 2011)
Gemini, if Sudan elected a new president and then ate a grilled cheese sandwich, it would somehow be a win for Apple in your eyes
46. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
I'm not a blind fan. I only see things as they are. Your reply is quite silly and does not prove my comment wrong.
42. jroc74 (Posts: 3645; Member since: 30 Dec 2010)
The same thing is going on with WP7 and Nokia. Same exact scenario....MS even went so far as to say Nokia will have somewhat free reign to do what they want with their WP7 phone.
47. 530gemini (Posts: 2198; Member since: 09 Sep 2010)
It is not the same. Microsoft did not buy Nokia out at all. They have established a partnership. Microsoft does not own Nokia like Goohle is about to own Motorola. Just like android (for now), any WinMo OEM are given freedom to customize their UI to a degree, for each OEM to have their own distinctive identity. With Google's acquisition of Motorola, Google has total command as to how Motorola devices are to be produced, and how the hardware specs in relation to the software be specified.
Google will make money out of Motorola devices. They won't on other android OEM's that they've licensed. So which android OEM do you think would have the upperhand? Samsung and HTC? Don't be blind. There is conflict of interest.
52. dionddc (Posts: 129; Member since: 19 Jul 2011)
So if Google is following Apple in strategy, then why is Apple following Google in sales?
Here's a thought: maybe Google is doing Apple's strategy BETTER.
35. snowgator (Posts: 3149; Member since: 19 Jan 2011)
Boy I stop checking mobile web sites for a couple days, and the world changes.
First of all, the idea that this will hurt HTC, Samsung, or any other Android user is a little knee-jerk. Google made over a billion dollars in ad revenue from these devices. Google has not become stupid in the last couple weeks. They will continue to support as many Android handsets as they can.
Otherwise, they will most likely leave Motorola as a hardware division alone. So long as it turns a profit to any degree, they will get their investment back.
However, those rumors of a Moto W7 handset are done. Crap. :-D
37. Jim Hutto (unregistered)
I don't see this as a bad thing. I see Apple freaking out and seeking out injunctions and lawsuits saying this is unfair. And I can see Microsoft doing the same. I am just going to hold off on my opinion until the flurry of lawsuits setting from Microsoft and Apple. So grab the popcorn and soda kiddies, this is going to be a long and interesting show.
38. Chip (unregistered)
I have a feeling if the t-mobile/at&t merger goes thru that google will buy sprint to create there own cell company, they have been wanting to do it for years....and I believe they will
44. dandirk (Posts: 187; Member since: 04 Aug 2011)
I don't think google will touch the hardware for a good year or two. I don't even think they will get rid of Blur.
Google wanted the patents, but they also wanted in on the patent war. They have the cash and clout to fight both Apple and MS.
This is going to be a HUGE mess... The below is from late last year, many are still not settled.
You folks have to remember the market is new, EVERYONE knows that Android has to be slowed down in market share. Otherwise it could be game over for them (at least as a serious contender.... Apple will still make cash just like with their PC/Laptops)
Sure Apple does great, it looked like they could run away with the market like the ipod, but the AT&T deal sort of screwed them in marketshare (but locked in that HUGE margin).
Apple did good back in the PC days, Schools were buying Macintoshes left and right for years. Then Windows 95 and NT came along... Game over in market share.
Apple and MS are trying to prevent Android rise to marketshare. Funny thing is Google is pretty much doing it the same way MS did with Windows. Support for 3rd party hardware.