HTC to Apple on patents: "We have to sit down and figure it out"
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Now the Taiwanese want to seriously talk it out and move along with life, as per Winston Yung, HTC's Chief Financial Officer: “We have to sit down and figure it out. We’re open to having discussions. We are open to all sorts of solutions, as long as the solution and the terms are fair and reasonable. On and off we’ve had discussions with Apple, even before the initial determination came out.”
HTC is already paying royalties to Microsoft for their mobile patents, to the tune of $5 per each Android handset it makes, and it might now have to throw some cash the Apple way too, unless these two tit-for-tat violations mutually destruct in court. If HTC has to pay, we don't know if this will be significant enough to affect HTC's handset prices in some way, or the difference will be negligible enough for the Taiwanese to absorb in their profit margin.
source: Bloomberg
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2. PhoneLuver posted on 26 Jul 2011, 06:04 11 3
If only Google would do the same! If Google doesn't do anything to protect manufacturers from lawsuits, and Microsoft, Apple, plus various patent trolls manage to increase the cost of production, manufacturers will reduce and in some cases even stop producing Android handsets should an alternative present itself like WebOS or even Meego.
Android is big, but as Nokia has shown us, nobody is too big to fail!
29. theBnakRobber (unregistered) posted on 26 Jul 2011, 12:27 1 0
Google is already in talks to buy another patent company that has over 8,000 patents a lot relating to mobile and data patents. With that said I think Apple raised the price of the Nortel patents to make them all show the fear they have for Google and join together to keep Google from getting it, while all along they were in talks to buy another patent company with double amount of patents. That's a good way to make others pay more money while they were talking with another company on the down low. Google played their hands very well.
30. theBankRobber (unregistered) posted on 26 Jul 2011, 12:30 0 0
Sorry ment Google raised the price on Apple to make the bid more money and show their fear of Google. It only makes sense. If they want it more the Google, make them pay a higher price.
4. SuperAndroidEvo posted on 26 Jul 2011, 06:40 3 4
Yes other manufacturers are wizening up & are starting to protect themselves from Apple. Apple is blatantly taking everyone to court & the top competition to Apple, like HTC & Samsung are going to protect themselves. This looks like it's going to be a wash & HTC will be able to sell their phones in the United States of America. See Apple two can play at this game!
3. Reply (unregistered) posted on 26 Jul 2011, 06:23 4 1
HTC to Apple on patents: "We have to sit down and figure it out"
Apple: "NO!!"
5. snowgator posted on 26 Jul 2011, 06:45 2 2
No words how annoying the term "patent infringement" is getting. Settle this thing. It is easy to see HTC violated Apple's patents, and pretty clear Apple was violating someone elses. HTC was smart enough to cover itself. So, HTC can set the bar on how to handle Apple. I have no idea if pending lawsuits with Samsung and Motorola are for the same patents, but since Apple will not be able to really get anybody banned from the US market, this will help end all the other crap as well.
I hope.
7. dandirk (unregistered) posted on 26 Jul 2011, 07:51 2 1
Google really should be trying to work around the patents. I know apple will.
Patents are pretty messed up, especially for technology. They have to be detailed, then its easy to work around them, but if they are to vague they can lock down whole segments of features/markets.
Would really like to read the patents Applie is accused of infringing on. I know the ones which apple owns are pretty vague, one pretty much covers a single chip that can communicate to multiple types of methods (think multi-function modem). It was pretty complex so I could be off on that. But reading the patent was vague and confusing all at the same time.
The other had to do with creating links on the fly to other subsystems of the phone... aka phone #s open the dialer, address navigation etc... The patent pretty much said it had a server and client component (these can be on same device so don't confuse with internet "server" which scans on screen content and creates links base on "common data" aka phone #, address etc.
The second could possibly be worked around, personally the idea of patenting a essentially a hyperlink to do obvious stuff like dial a # is not really a patent, but all the great inventions are the simple obvious ones (like paper clip).
Also I am confused why dynamic links on site (for ads) doesn't also infringe... maybe it isn't because its not specifically in the patent.
Don't be fooled, just cause a company has a patent doesn't mean they invented it... companies buy patents all the time. All companies do this, to lock down their market or to use the tech royalty free. I think this is just in the news more due to Apple/Android rivalry.
8. remixfa posted on 26 Jul 2011, 08:01 4 1
well hopefully this is the end of the HTC lawsuits. Well played by them... lol
21. iwebdroidberry7 posted on 26 Jul 2011, 11:22 3 1
What happened to the giant Google protecting HTC and stopping Apples reign of tyranny.
52. remixfa posted on 26 Jul 2011, 19:00 0 0
nothing happens fast in the world of layers and courts.
who knows, maybe google had some influence in this decision.
10. taco50 posted on 26 Jul 2011, 09:02 2 8
Not sure how the trolls are seeing this as a victory for HTC. HTC said they want to work it out which is usually done by the weaker of the two. Also you're all very hypocritical because you're only upset when Apple sues. Where's the outrage at all the other lawsuits including against Apple.
Sniggly I read your little pity party you threw yourself in the other thread. My response is that you should grow a pair and act like a man.
11. remixfa posted on 26 Jul 2011, 09:31 5 1
Or it could be because HTC holds patents that Apple is infringing on and vice versa. Working it out without the courts is always a better answer than sue sue sue sue suuuuuuuuue everyone.
Why would someone be outraged that someone is suing apple now? If apple was a quiet company that didnt sue every one, then they would be outraged. As it is, noone gets mad when the school yard bully get's whats been comming to him.
12. Sniggly posted on 26 Jul 2011, 09:47 4 1
Okay. Since you obviously lack empathy for anyone who's had it tougher than you in your cream puff world, and you refuse to agree to a truce, fine. I'll be emailing Phonearena by tonight.
It's too bad, really. I hoped you would grow up and start acting like a human f**king being, but you can't even handle that.
13. ngo2dd posted on 26 Jul 2011, 09:47 1 1
Do you have anything better to do then talk s**t about people? You know have is infringing on S3 patient right? This is also a PR move where it is showing HTC is willing to work out a solution, if Apple don't accept it will look back on their part and the public will see that they don't want monopoly.
