First Intel powered smartphone, made by Samsung for Sprint, coming to 2012 CES?
PC World's Agam Shah reports that Intel has been able to get Ice Cream Sandwich on its Atom processor, co-named Medfield. Shah adds that Intel has been working on optimizing the processor for certain devices, and should be ready in time for when these devices are being released. As for talk that Intel's x86 processors can't compete in the smartphone arena, Intel CEO Paul Otellini says that the Medfield processor will beat all challengers.
Last month, we reported that the Medfield CPU's, part of Intel's line of processors, will be made specifically for mobile handsets while the Clover Trail chipsets will be used for tablets. Intel plans on moving from chips made using a 32 nm process in 2012 to 22nm the following year and 14nm the year after. Otellini says that Intel has been in the position of challenging tough competition before.
In the early 1980's, Intel went after the Vic-20 and the Apple II when first entering the PC market. Who leads that market today? You betcha. And in the early 1990's, Intel went after Sun Microsystems and IBM in the server market. Care to guess who now leads that market? And the same thing has happened with Supercomputers. So perhaps it should be TI and Qualcomm shaking in their boots with the impending addition of Intel to the smartphone market.
Back in July rumors started spreading about a very thin Intel phone powered by the Medfield processor. At the time, Android and Me's source wouldn't reveal the handset maker, but there is some word that Samsung and Intel have expanded their partnership to include smartphones. Otellini is giving a keynote speech January 10th at CES and that will be immediately followed by an event being held by Sprint which leads to speculation that the third largest carrier in the States will be the home to the Intel powered smartphone, at least in the beginning.
1. belovedson (Posts: 832; Member since: 30 Nov 2010)
finally i was waiting for this announcement. in time intel will absolutely dominate the cpu market. everyone chip maker should fear the upcoming announcement.
8. bobfreking55 (Posts: 866; Member since: 15 Jul 2011)
ARM should dominate the pockets of mankind. Intel and other chipsets should stay stationary. Applications will need to adjust if they cross borders.
33. steelicon (Posts: 316; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
I think this is Intel's CEO Paul Ottelini's idea of raining on Nvidia's CEO Jen-Hsun Huang's parade, hahaha! Tsk, tsk, tsk! XD
2. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Why should Android be quaking in their boots? Last I heard, they were basically Swiss (as in processor neutral). CPU manufacturers should be the ones who are quaking in their boots (or wetting their pants). It will take Intel a while to catch up, but ultimately I wouldn't bet against them. In 5 years, the iDevices will have Intel chips inside.
3. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I was just going to post that.....yes, why would ANDROID be shaking and quaking in their boots? Android manufacturers will just have another excuse to come up with more phone options....imagine this:
Samsung Galaxy S3i
Droid Razr 2i
HTC Rezound 2i
with ANDROID (and Intel) inside.
10. jacko (unregistered)
i like the sound of that
the new Samsung Galaxy S3i with Intel Inside
logos on the back would be so awesome
23. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
I dont like the sound of that.
x86 processors dont run the same as ARM processors. What you gain in any power, you lose in compatibility as any and all apps would have to be made compatible.
Whats the point of having the most powerful phone if nothing runs on it? Android has been finally getting over its compatibility and stability issues, and now intel wants to come in and mess that up. Go away intel. Save that power for a desktop compatible windows8 tablet.
30. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
I don't know whether Intel will be leveraging their x86 processor family or not, I just have seen the results when they decide to go after a market. Apple has seen the results as well. Remember the PowerPC chips that Apple signed an agreement with IBM to produce? Intel just kept leapfrogging the best that IBM could produce and let Steve get all pissed at IBM. It was just a matter of time before Intel was producing the CPUs for Apple.
It would appear that Intel has decided mobile chipsets are a strategic market for it. Once that happens, it seems they spare no expense and bear any burden to dominate the respective market.
5 years (maybe sooner) is my forecast.
37. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
intel does have a record of domination, no doubt. but like any company, there are a few flops in its closet.
in this category, its dominated by low power ARM based chips that do not work the same as x86. If intel is trying to push in x86, they will fail. The compatability issues alone will make anything running x86 (like an android or WP7) device a nightmare. there is a reason intel has been competing with AMD and not Samsung. The chips dont work the same. The apps arent compatable with eachother, so on and so forth.
It would basically be like building an alternate version of android with an alternate x86 compatible app store. And people bitch about fragmentation issues now!
If intel (or AMD) wants to come on over with ARM based chips and spruce up the market, I'm all for that. Competition is awesome. If they want to try to come in n push x86, they can go out the way they came in.
43. Lucas777 (Posts: 2137; Member since: 06 Jan 2011)
i agree with you. even though intel thinks they will set the standard with x86 and they might in many years, it would be such a pain to actually buy one of those phones… it wud not be a smart move for google to allow intel to fragment android even more when they are trying very hard to stop fragmentation
49. -RVM- (Posts: 331; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I don't think there will be any problem with app compatibility. Android apps are not compiled to platform-dependent machine code anyway. Instead, they are interpreted by Dalvik virtual machine. So they will only use x86 version of this VM and apps will be compatible.
48. mantus (Posts: 1; Member since: 05 Dec 2011)
SInce Android run on top of Java, all current application will run on x86 adnroid as well as long as the Dalvik VM run on x86
51. robinrisk (unregistered)
Apparently MIPS processors can run ARM apps. You know a lot about processors, are you sure for a fact that they are incompatible?
35. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7040; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
Make a Andoird with Intel colors
41. whiteninjazx6r (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Where does the article state "android should be shaking in their boots" ? See, when I read it, I just saw TI and QComm...hmmm...its seems that those companies might need to do some boot-quaking...However, Android...doesnt need to worry obviously...nor did PA state they should. I cant believe 2 people forgot how to read...You need supersmart phones, to make up for your lack of reading skills...I know, I know...harsh, oh well.
4. jibraihimi (Posts: 718; Member since: 29 Nov 2011)
Droid_X_Doug and networkdood, no where in the article it's mentioned that Android will be quaking in it's boots, they mentioned TI and Qualcomm shud be quaking in their boots, becoz Intel cud give them tough competition, nd will woo most of the handset manufacturers, if they are able to showcase one hell of processor........... Any ways Intel processor will be used to power Android device from samsung............. Sorry if I offend u both, but I thnk it's better if u read the article properly before commenting............. Any ways let's see, what new thng we wll se with the debut of Intel in smartphone segment..........
17. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
"So perhaps it should be TI and Qualcomm shaking in their boots with the impending addition of Intel to the smartphone market."
This was added after Doug and I commented - you can even ask the author himself. The author took what DOUG had commented on, that CPU manufacturers should be 'quaking in their boots' at this news, and used that to modify the story.
5. Dr.Phil (Posts: 1018; Member since: 14 Feb 2011)
In a way Samsung is almost profiting from all sides. I mean think about it, if they really wanted to they could offer only their Exynos processors in their phones but they are actually taking the initiative to offer a lot of processors and GPU configurations in their handsets. This is a win for Samsung because it means they will have a wider range of products that would please pretty much everyone. Someone who prefers Intel will buy an Intel product, those who like nVidia will purchase that product, and even with the release of the new Galaxy Nexus will please those who want a TI chip as well. This is different from most of the competition that offers one or two chipsets in their phones. HTC for the longest time has gone with Qualcomm (although rumors of an upcoming Tegra 3 handset are out there) and Motorola seems to like TI chips nowadays while they did offer some Tegra ones as well. I would think this will make Samsung an even bigger player in the mobile phone industry.
6. Firedrops (Posts: 228; Member since: 06 Sep 2011)
This is going to be interesting. Intel's going to be quite the challenger since they already have headstarts in funds, name, manufacturing technology and processor-related expertise.
9. som (Posts: 768; Member since: 10 Nov 2009)
Android phones is a freedom of choices and Apple is like a communism is no freedom of choice one phone and one rule.
24. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
even he was mad that it was still a 3.5 inch screen :)
11. abdane (Posts: 490; Member since: 07 Oct 2011)
OH f**k ! wonder what its speed will be ! intel... OMG ! :)
12. samda (Posts: 52; Member since: 28 Nov 2011)
the big deaf detail about these superior performances is that they are superior compared to ARM procs that are ALREADY on the market.
now stack medfield against top tier Snapdragon s4, Exynos 3, OMAP 5, Tegra 3, and then talk.
I couldn't care less about the badge, just give me the best chip. but I doubt that badge will be from Intel.
29. ph00ny (Posts: 784; Member since: 26 May 2011)
It's not all about performance in the mobile space. Power consumption is a huge part of the mobile cpu world. Also there is no Exynos3.
Current version is Exynos 4210 and future version seems to carry 5xxx numbering scheme
31. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It is not about what competing chipsets are presently on the market. Intel can't win that fight. It is about what chipsets are on the market in 3 to 5 years. That fight will be about 4+ cores, CPU caching, integrated GPUs and LOW power consumption. Once Intel decides to go after a market, they do it or die trying. I just wouldn't bet against Intel now that they have decided to go after the mobile market.
38. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
it would be nice if you were right, as competition is great for everyone. But I have a feeling Intel is thinking they can muscle in and force the market to their will on their brand power. This market is something they have NEVER been good at. Unless they change their thinking and strategies, they are going to fail big time.
Its not just about intel entering the market. Its that they are trying to bring in x86 CPUs which are not designed for smartphone power, compatibility, or anything of the like. Just because you make a good jumbo jet, doesnt mean you can make a good power glider.
x86 cpus and ARM cpu's do not play in the same field for a reason. I am not looking forward to the compatibilty issues android is about to face if they let in x86 processors.
Besides, I prefer AMD. Much better value per chip in most all circumstances. You pay a premium for an intel chip because of brand identity.. much like apple.
15. shifu (Posts: 44; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
Just hope theres no iphonei6........I should have purchase the rights to that so i can sue apple if they dear.........HA hA ha......
16. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I wonder if AMD will ever join the fray?
18. shifu (Posts: 44; Member since: 23 Nov 2011)
without a doubt they will.......it will be cheaper..........much cheaper.......And because i go against the grain i will be thee biggest AMD advicator
21. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
My last 2 PCs had AMD inside - for some reason my PCs with AMD lasted twice as long as those with Intel, and I have had HPs with AMD and INTEL.
25. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
until AMD and intel can provide 100% proof that they are 100% compatible with android and all apps, i dont wan them anywhere near my phone.
28. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I agree - we shall soon see how Intel does
32. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
Intel will work with Android/Google to have some kind of compatibility certification program - 100% Certified Compatible with Android 5.X and above.... Sound familiar?
This story has played out before, just not in the mobile space. Now it is time for the mobile space to get some Intel-love.
39. remixfa (Posts: 14255; Member since: 19 Dec 2008)
lol. good luck with that doug. :)
Besides, they are making these devices for android 4.x. You are not also going to have all apps be converted for compatibility. they are not all going to be 100% stable.
Basically you are going to be looking at a higher powered version of every android 1.5 issue that we have recently gotten rid of.
47. Droid_X_Doug (Posts: 5993; Member since: 22 Dec 2010)
It is not about the next 2 years. Intel is going to be putting their real effort for the next 3 to 5 years. If they start to introduce chips that are not a re-hash of the x86 routine, it will be dicey at best for everyone else.
The 4.x chips are just a place-holder. Look at what they release for Android 5.X. That is where the fight is going to be.
20. steelicon (Posts: 316; Member since: 02 Apr 2011)
AMD powered phones would probably be much cheaper, much energy efficient and most likely more powerful in graphics, considering that the Adreno series actually were from ATI Graphics, now AMD Graphics. I would like to see an AIW solution that even has a TV tuner plus DVB-TV, hahaha, now that would be nice!
22. networkdood (Posts: 6330; Member since: 31 Mar 2010)
I hear you on cheaper - HPs with INTEL cost more than with AMD.
50. whiteninjazx6r (Posts: 32; Member since: 22 Nov 2011)
Cheaper because its inferior...Intel has been leading the pack for quite awhile...people mostly choose AMD just to save money, not to get the best. Think about mid-high end gaming systems...usually packing i7 cpus...not AMD stuff...Intel will always top AMD.
26. Mojobobo (Posts: 12; Member since: 04 Nov 2011)
YES! INTEL POWERED AND A WNDOWS PHONE!!!! SKYRIM HERE I COME!!! :D
27. Mr.phone.guy. (Posts: 13; Member since: 25 Sep 2011)
Let hope it's also going to be Sprints first lte phone.
34. InspectorGadget80 (Posts: 7040; Member since: 26 Mar 2011)
If this is true Ill hold out for a Samsung with Intel processor. Every computer i have always have Intel. My first one I own is Intel Pentium II. And my new one also have a Intel processor. Cant wait till CES. Glad I wont be able to upgrade until FEB.
36. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
rumors already starting for CES. Samsung not stopping at all.
40. ghost__uwi (Posts: 175; Member since: 28 Nov 2011)
interesting Intel sounds a bit bit ahead of itself but intel chips are bad ass. So wait and see i say
42. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
I just found out, What the name of the handset could be.......
Motorola brung back an old name the RAZR.
Samsung might revive the Instinct. It was Sprints best selling touch screen phone, and I think it was their first.
Back than the Samsung Instinct was supposed to compete against, than Apple Iphone 2 or 2G
44. HTCOE (Posts: 629; Member since: 20 Nov 2011)
Get ready for the 4.65",quadcore, 12mp, intel, jelly bean, samsung galaxy nexus s next summer !
45. rogersnelson72 (Posts: 2; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)
I think that if this turns out productively coming from Intel then it is a very great head start for Sprint in 2012. This would be a very powerful statement for Sprint starting out the new year right!!
46. rogersnelson72 (Posts: 2; Member since: 04 Dec 2011)
This is a great shot in the arm for Sprint wireless in the coming new year. They could be the first out the gate with an Intel powered smartphone to boot. This could draw potential subscribers as well
52. rockstarlive (Posts: 307; Member since: 19 Oct 2011)
Samsung Instinct HD could be the name of the phone.
with ICS already on board.