U.S. government tells Britain that using Huawei's parts for 5G is "nothing short of madness"

U.S. government tells Britain that using Huawei's parts for 5G is
A delegation from the U.S. visited Britain yesterday in an attempt to convince the country not to allow Huawei networking equipment in their 5G networks. CNBC reports that the visitors from the states presented new evidence allegedly showing that if Britain decides to use Huawei's gear, intelligence sharing would be at risk. The visiting delegation reportedly told the U.K. that using Huawei's parts to build out its 5G network would be "nothing short of madness."

The U.S. considers the company to be a national security threat because the law in China says that the government can order Huawei to gather intelligence on its behalf. This has led to talk about backdoors being placed inside Huawei's devices and networking equipment that send information to Beijing. The company has repeatedly denied these allegations. Huawei is the largest supplier of networking equipment in the world and the Trump administration has been warning allies not to include the firm's gear in their new 5G networks. Some countries like Japan and Australia have heeded the warning while others, like Germany, have not.

The U.K.'s digital minister says that security is the government's top priority

British Prime Minister Boris Johnson told the BBC that critics of Huawei should have an alternative supplier of 5G networking equipment to recommend. At the same time, Johnson said that he didn't want to use equipment that would "prejudice our national security or ability to cooperate" with Britain's intelligence partners. U.K. digital minister, Max Warman stated that "The U.K. government’s top priority is always going to be the security of people in Britain. That will always be the overarching thing that underlines all of these decisions. At the same time our relationship with the U.S. is important and we’re going to make sure we consider this very carefully." Warman adds that the decision will be announced "in due course" by the prime minister in Parliament.

Huawei's equipment is favored by many countries because it is considered to be more technologically advanced than rivals' gear, and is often less expensive. The company does get funding from China's state-run bank that allows it to offer favorable financing terms to customers. Huawei Vice President Victor Zhang said last week that he was "confident" that the U.K. would "make a decision based upon evidence, as opposed to unsubstantiated allegations." After yesterday's presentation, Mr. Zhang may wish that he never said those words.

5G is the next generation of wireless connectivity and delivers download data speeds as much as 10 times faster than 4G LTE. Sure, this will mean that an HD movie that takes minutes to load in 4G will take only seconds to download using 5G. But there is more to the story than just that. 5G will lead to the creation of new technologies and businesses and could spur an economic boom in those countries that can harness the faster data speeds.

Besides warning its allies about Huawei, the U.S. FCC recently voted unanimously to block purchases of networking gear from Huawei and ZTE by the Universal Service Fund (USF). Managed by the regulatory agency, the fund spends $8.5 billion annually on technology that provides rural and low-income Americans with access to the internet. The ban doesn't cover older 2G, 3G and 4G networks belonging to rural carriers that took advantage of Huawei's lower prices. However, the FCC is considering a rule that would require these small wireless providers to rip out Huawei and ZTE equipment from their networks. The FCC has asked these carriers for estimates on how much it would cost them to do this, but the agency believes that such a task might cost $1.89 billion over a two-year period. Huawei said back in November that it will sue in an effort to overturn the FCC's ban on purchasing Huawei equipment with USF funds.



1. Venom

Posts: 3975; Member since: Dec 14, 2017

I agree. No one should be using equipment from Huawei unless you want the Chinese government to be right in your backyard. It's not political propaganda as I'm sure some Huawei apologists will say. Huawei is a security threat and they should be treated as one. And before anyone else says, the US isn't innocent in any way, but they aren't stifling competition like China is doing. Documented facts.

2. foldablephone

Posts: 78; Member since: Sep 19, 2018

I disagree. As a Brit, I’d rather China spy on me than America. I just wish Europe had created an alternative to iOS/Android. Silicon Valley is the spy capital of the world. I have to use ad blockers and remove Facebook and use DuckDuckGo because of America’s obsession with cookie tracking. The Chinese people are not war mongers. They won’t sell their data to cheap 3rd parties like Americans do.

11. meanestgenius

Posts: 22807; Member since: May 28, 2014

All facts. Totally agree.

19. dimas

Posts: 3446; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

It is also a fact that wild tigers can kill people but that doesn't mean that I will kiss the ass of a wild chinese bear just because i hate the tiger. Are you a wild chinese bear ass-kisser?

23. meanestgenius

Posts: 22807; Member since: May 28, 2014

Your idiocy and “stupid is as stupid does” mentality knows no bounds, as evident by your ridiculous comment.

18. dimas

Posts: 3446; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

"The Chinese people are not war mongers. They won’t sell their data to cheap 3rd parties like Americans do." Either you're history ignorant or stupid on what Chinese govt. do to their own people. Criticize china? You die. Don't want to follow communist party? You die. Show the world photos of polluted areas? You die. Create new technologies and they will disrespect patent laws. They keep breaching international territory policies and don't even budge. Huawei technology is cheap that's business people want them. Just imagine what their govt. will do if you give them all access to your datas.

21. ShadowSnypa786

Posts: 655; Member since: Jan 06, 2017

"I’d rather China spy on me than America" I stopped after that bit, the rubbish people come out with to justify it.

4. alanrock

Posts: 341; Member since: Oct 04, 2018

dunno about Huawei as invisible antennas that send data directly to east are tough to find by default, but i'd rather have Sauron to watch over my well being than US gov.

5. Alcyone

Posts: 613; Member since: May 10, 2018

A person commits espionage for 20 yrs for the CIA, has a wife and 4 kids at home in the US. What do you think he tells them the week before he passes away? I know, I'm 1 of those 4 kids. Reality checked on me, and I wanted to deny what I was told. The US is far worse the any other country when it comes to covert operations. Nothing Huawei could be asked to do is anywhere nearly as bad as the US has done, anc probably stills does. The pictures of what "we" (US) are capable of make me ashamed to live in Texas. The pictures don't go away, and the videos of the innocent lives lost, only for such little information is disgusting. Glad I dumped my vhs. So, please, don't think the US is innocent and caring for any domestic or offshore citizen. They dont give a damn. I'd rather deal with Huawei and the big "spy" issue. When we're the worst in the world. Deny it, but reality won't change over such denials by anyone.

12. meanestgenius

Posts: 22807; Member since: May 28, 2014

Absolutely agree with you. The U.S. government is far worse.

10. meanestgenius

Posts: 22807; Member since: May 28, 2014

You’re being as dramatic as the U.S. government is over this whole ridiculousness, which is absolutely BS political propaganda. There have been zero documented facts that have proven that Huawei was spying on behalf of the Chinese government, but several U.S. companies have been proven to spy on behalf of the U.S. government, Cisco chief among them. The U.S. government couldn’t even provide Microsoft with any proof of Huawei spying when asked. Even some U.S. allies find eBay the government is saying to be suspect. And see how many people are letting you know how wrong you are? Even U.S. companies don’t trust the U.S. government. They are just stifling competition because Huawei is far ahead of U.S. companies in terms of networking equipment, and Huawei’s equipment is far more advanced.

20. dimas

Posts: 3446; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

"You being dramatic." Says the guy who always get keyboard warrior when venom stated facts about china. I am going to ask you again, are you a wild chinese bear ass-kisser?

24. meanestgenius

Posts: 22807; Member since: May 28, 2014

Your English is horrendous. You can’t even properly quote what I typed lmao! It’s “says the guy who always ACTS like a keyboard warrior”, which is YOU. Venom stated no facts, as there is nothing tangible to back it up. That’s how facts work. You have to provide tangible evidence to back it up. Since he hasn’t, and can’t, you’re just engaging him in an act of fellation at this point (I know, it’s a big word for your feeble mind), so the question of “are you an @$$-kisser” is properly directed at you, since you’re clearly kissing something else.

16. Nokfan1603

Posts: 75; Member since: Mar 13, 2013

Could the US please stop telling other countries what they have to do?

3. newbey123

Posts: 704; Member since: Mar 19, 2012

How about letting other countries make their own decisions.

15. lyndon420

Posts: 6916; Member since: Jul 11, 2012

Agreed. And how about the USA expose the actual evidence...

6. briankeithmays

Posts: 42; Member since: Dec 18, 2013

Maybe if our government would stop meddling in the entire world business things would be better. All the nations of the world are drunk with the wine of the United states fornication.

7. L0n3n1nja

Posts: 1604; Member since: Jul 12, 2016

As an American I trust China and Chinese companies more than I trust the United States government or American tech companies. Our government spies on us and the rest of the world while waging an endless war. America is the world's biggest threat.

8. pablumatic

Posts: 21; Member since: Nov 22, 2012

If you use the internet in any way the US govt already has you. If you use Hauwei products then you tack on China as well. I'd just go with US approved products since number of countries spying on you decreases by one, but one will always remain.

9. XP007

Posts: 24; Member since: Oct 21, 2019

Most Americans must be delusional because they are literally the worst @@$hole of the world who are obsessed with spying, creating destruction and can't stop killing people with their sophisticated weapons. They cannot stop messing around in the Middle East and make the Middle Eastern people increasingly hate the West who will produce more terrorists. And the funny thing is they are passionate about eradicating muslim terrorists when they are unable to solve the problem of gun violence in their own country even though gun violence is hurting and killing more Americans than muslim terrorists.

13. meanestgenius

Posts: 22807; Member since: May 28, 2014

Judging by the comments here, it’s clear that even U.S. citizens distrust the U.S. and realize what warmongering sadists they are. The U.S. is just over dramatizing the issue with falsehoods to promote their BS political propaganda.

14. s_boy

Posts: 31; Member since: Nov 30, 2013

UK has a pretty good spy system themselves - you park on a double yellow or drive on a bus lane you'll get a fine in the post within days with a picture of your face...shame they don't use the same tech to fight crime!

22. Farcaster

Posts: 168; Member since: Apr 16, 2018

What will they do with their infrastructure in case of another world war (which doesnt seem too unlikely)? I doubt Britain would form political alliance with China.

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