Wi-Fi certification hints that the BlackBerry Hamburg could be a re-branded TCL Alcatel Idol 4

Wi-Fi certification hints that the BlackBerry Hamburg could be a re-branded TCL Alcatel Idol 4
TCL, the company that produces the Alcatel line of smartphones, is possibly re-branding one of its Alcatel handsets with the BlackBerry name. This would dovetail perfectly with a recent comment made by BlackBerry CEO John Chen, who called the company a hardware design house that designs but doesn't manufacture product. He also alluded to new deals with manufacturers more efficient than Foxconn. You might recall that BlackBerry had a deal with Foxconn for the latter to design, manufacture, market, and sell BlackBerry handsets. 

Now, it would appear that BlackBerry has a deal with TCL. Documentation from the Wi-Fi Alliance shows that Wi-Fi certification has been awarded to a TCL handset called the DTEK-50, powered by Android 6.0. The connection to BlackBerry? That would start with the DTEK name. DTEK is the security and privacy app found on the BlackBerry Priv. Also, the model number of the unannounced device is listed on the Wi-Fi certification as STH100-2. The Priv's model number is STV100-1.

According to Crackberry, it had heard a previous rumor last month that it characterized as "shady." This rumor said that BlackBerry was working with TCL to produce a version of the Alcatel Idol 4 with BlackBerry branding. This would be the phone with a code name of  BlackBerry Hamburg. With this new information at our fingertips, we went back to an alleged GFXBench benchmark test of the BlackBerry Hamburg from last month, and found that the specs matched those of the Alcatel Idol 4.  It isn't clear whether BlackBerry would add some of its own hardware design to this phone. Chen's comments about BlackBerry being a hardware design house would seem to indicate that the company will be designing some of its future handsets, if not the Hamburg.


This means that the Hamburg should feature a 5.2-inch screen with a 1080 x 1920 resolution, and carry the Snapdragon 617 SoC under the hood. The latter should contain an octa-core 1.7GHz CPU with the Adreno 405 GPU. 3GB of RAM will be inside along with 16GB of native storage (10GB available to the user). A 512GB capacity microSD slot is available for those who need additional storage. The camera combo from back to front is 13MP/8MP, and a 2610mAh battery keeps the lights on.

Even though this all seems to click, keep your cynical eye open until we get an announcement from BlackBerry.


source: Crackberry

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  • Display 5.2" 1080 x 1920 pixels
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  • Battery 2610 mAh(15h talk time)

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115 Comments

1. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Blackberry should price this accordingly. They should avoid the mistake they made with the Priv pricing it at a premium for their first Android handset. And if they want it more hands, it has to be universally unlocked.

4. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

The specs are eeirly reminiscent. If it is...will we not have an idol or BlackBerry phone in Canada? Maybe bell exclusive.

11. Rafishant

Posts: 396; Member since: Oct 13, 2015

A rebranded Chinese phone. What is left from the old great BlackBerry?

14. meanestgenius

Posts: 22084; Member since: May 28, 2014

"One of those devices with the potential to reach the masses would be BASED on the Idol 4 but arrive with BlackBerry branding otherwise known as 'Hamburg'." (Words in all caps provided by me). 'we are at the point that where our business are extremely efficient and we no longer really making any hardware. We are really a hardware design house. I do design, I don't really make hardware' and noted new manufacturing agreements that are 'a little bit more efficient than Foxconn.' Taken from the source article: http://m.crackberry.com/tcl-built-blackberry-hamburg-turns-seeking-wi-fi-certification It mentions absolutely nothing about "rebranded Chinese phone" in the SOURCE ARTICLE. BlackBerry is designing the phone. Even Apple *based* the design of the iPhone in something else. The other possibility is that TCL/Alcatel is making a handset for themselves and licensing BlackBerry software to put on it.

19. Mxyzptlk unregistered

Tldr version please.

2. Fona13A unregistered

Lol. That design doesn't even fit the Blackberry brand in any way. Knock 'em out of the park though, Chen, nobody wants a standout design anymore if this indicates anything.

3. KingSam

Posts: 1450; Member since: Mar 13, 2016

High price incoming

5. iLovesarcasm

Posts: 589; Member since: Oct 20, 2014

They should price it as an Alcatel.

6. meanestgenius

Posts: 22084; Member since: May 28, 2014

If this is true, I'm pretty sure it will be priced at no more than $400, most likely less. Ideally, it should be priced like an Alcatel handset. Chen is holding true to his word that BlackBerry is more of a design house when it comes to handsets now, and they don't build them anymore. It will be all-touch, so it should entice more consumers to look at it as they prefer an all-touchscreen handset to physical keyboard ones (not me, I love the physical keyboard BlackBerry's and will be holding out for the next one with a physical keyboard). Make it GSM unlocked so it can be used with most carriers around the world without having any for the network features compromised, and BlackBerry *should* be able to sell a reasonable amount. But they have to market it.

7. jellmoo

Posts: 2588; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

The Idol 3 was a great lower cost handset, so I'm pretty stoked about this move. Having BB software on board a solid mid-ranger with a nice design sounds like win. I think $400 is the magic price point, though lower would obviously be more friendly. (side note: the blackberry software keyboard is ridiculously good too, though. I sideload it on all my devices now. The only feature I miss is re-sizing the keyboard, but the prediction and fluidity of it is so good that it doesn't bother me much)

8. meanestgenius

Posts: 22084; Member since: May 28, 2014

Agreed. I think BlackBerry will have somewhat of a hit with the average consumer with this one if they market it correctly (or at all, for that matter, lol). I absolutely love the virtual keyboard on BlackBerry handsets. Best VKB's in the business, IMO.

16. BlackhawkFlys

Posts: 914; Member since: May 07, 2014

They better change the design at least. I wouldn't want an Alcatel phone with a BlackBerry logo on it for a higher price than the Idol 4 is.

9. Mxyzptlk unregistered

"Make it GSM unlocked so it can be used with most carriers around the world without having any for the network features compromised," Smh...

10. ibend

Posts: 6747; Member since: Sep 30, 2014

should be priced around Moto G4

13. Crispin_Gatieza

Posts: 3137; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

This would make the third iteration of the Idol 4 with the upcoming Idol 4 Pro on Windows.

15. droidmac

Posts: 14; Member since: Jan 08, 2016

Been patiently waiting for the idol 4s. Looks like it will never see the light of day

41. xq10xa

Posts: 810; Member since: Dec 07, 2010

Lol. No way. Alcatel? Cmon.

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