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Why there is no LTE connectivity on the Google Nexus 4

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Why there is no LTE connectivity on the Google Nexus 4
The Google Nexus 4 was sold sans LTE connectivity, which was the reason for a buzz of excitement to occur when the teardown of the stock Android handset revealed that an LTE chip had been placed inside the device. A few users of the Google Nexus 4 had a plan  to turn on the chip and apparently did get a Google Nexus 4 to receive LTE signals. The million dollar question is, why would LG include an LTE chip in a phone that is not supposed to be a 4G LTE device?

This image would seem to confirm LTE connectivity on the Google Nexus 4, confirmed by a subsequent SpeedTest

This image would seem to confirm LTE connectivity on the Google Nexus 4, confirmed by a subsequent SpeedTest

When LG designed the Google Nexus 4, the Korean manufacturer wanted to include the quad-core 1.5GHz Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 Pro APQ8064 processor. This is the chipset that allows quad-core and LTE to play together nicely, unlike previous versions of Qualcomm's quad-core chips. The chipset comes with a processor and a modem which will not work separately. Since LG wanted to use the specific processor, they had to include the Qualcomm WTR1605L Seven-Band 4G LTE chip. But for 4G connectivity to happen, important hardware would have to be added like a signal amplifier and a filter. Thus, according to LG, a software update alone cannot make the Google Nexus 4 connect to an LTE pipeline.

LG adds that the use of the Qualcomm APQ8064 gives the Google Nexus 4 the same "processing performance" as the LG Optimus G except for 3G connectivity. And without the necessary 4G parts, it also keeps the price of the phone down to extremely reasonable levels. And that is why you can't find the Google Nexus 4 except at some retailers or for an inflated price on eBay.

There is a little mystery here. LG says that the phone could not connect to an LG pipeline without the excluded hardware. Yet, there are some who claim to have switched on the LTE chip in the phone and received the speedy 4G signal over Telus' band 4 in Canada. A SpeedTest showed faster speeds (over 16Mbps down) than the Canadian carrier's HSPA+ signal which seems to prove that LTE was running on the phone. Others claim to have been able to receive a very low powered LTE signal using the tweak. Interesting, hmm?

"In order to provide the best possible specification for Nexus 4, LG utilized the same powerful Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset as can be found in its 4G LTE product, namely LG Optimus G. This powerful chipset is only available with a combined processor and modem and cannot be implemented separately. The modem contains 4G LTE capabilities but is only effective when combined with other essential hardware parts such as a signal amplifier and filter in order for it to work. It therefore cannot be upgraded to 4G LTE capability through software.With the inclusion of the Qualcomm Snapdragon chipset, Nexus 4 therefore offers the same amazing processing performance as LG Optimus G but for the 3G market."-LG Spokesman

source: AndroidAuthority

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posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:12 3

1. CommentBoxEnforcer (Posts: 99; Member since: 13 Feb 2012)


posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:19 5

3. wendygarett (unregistered)

Dat as O.O!!!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 01:05 2

12. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:16 4

2. brar.arsh (Posts: 202; Member since: 12 Sep 2012)

Million $$$ Question..

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 21:49

24. JunBringer (Posts: 137; Member since: 01 Oct 2012)

Some friends of mine who were in limbo got theirs shipped today. Good luck!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:22 7

4. wendygarett (unregistered)

Isn't Google has explained that the 4g lte is gimmick and cost added?? Google wanna make sure the poor can able to get this beast since the rich has chosen the iPhone 5...

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:37 17

7. phil2n (Posts: 487; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

wrong!!! it is not about rich or poor. Smart people picks Android whether it is Expensive or not, While Persons who doesn't care for their money always pick expensive things like apple.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 02:15 6

16. wendygarett (unregistered)

Wrong!!! Poor people in Asia cannot afford lte if you ask me, even in Singapore!! The lte is only popular in Korea and Japan!!!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 02:22 2

17. Kuherrn (Posts: 16; Member since: 09 Nov 2012)

Wendy... just curious... when are you going to stop trolling???

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 02:32 5

18. aaronkatrini (Posts: 242; Member since: 06 Jun 2012)

as a student i dont not being able to afford an iphone, sgs3 or one x leaves me no choise but to go for a cheaper phone. nexus4 is just perfect

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 02:55 4

19. wendygarett (unregistered)

Did I sound troll for you? My apologies... Didn't realise that... I'm just telling the truth in Asia...

posted on 27 Nov 2012, 00:37

26. phil2n (Posts: 487; Member since: 30 Apr 2012)

Actually wendygarett is right, that't the truth about some Asians. To be known that they are rich they always tend to buy expensive things like iphone/ipad.. Try to take a walk in Cebu and you will see average people who are holding galaxy Y duos, while Rich looking people holding iPhone

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:31 4

5. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

that sucks... i hope that google will re-produce nexus 4 with LTE but with 32GB and 64GB version!!! just like they did at nexus 7!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:31 7

6. Warenward (Posts: 13; Member since: 06 Dec 2011)

"A few users of the Google Nexus 4 had a plan to turn on the chip and apparently did get a Google Nexus 7 to receive LTE signals."

I didn't know the Nexus 7 could receive LTE signals :P

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:37 2

8. Bozzor (Posts: 189; Member since: 02 May 2012)

The signal amplifier and filter enable a 4G connection to be far more stable, but as long as the 4G chipset is there, the 4G signal is sufficiently strong and the phone/SIM is properly identified by the carrier, then the Nexus 4 can be an LTE device, but be warned, it will be sucking down the juice at a rate you won't believe.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:47 1

9. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

getting the Galaxy Note 2. Is not a concern for me.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:50

10. samsung4ever (Posts: 36; Member since: 20 Nov 2012)

Because it wasnt made by samsung who invented 4g lte and is now suing apple for using it

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 22:24

25. MC1123 (Posts: 1256; Member since: 12 Nov 2012)

lol...threy dont invent LTE!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 00:54

11. biophone (Posts: 1994; Member since: 15 Jun 2011)

Since i lose unlimited if I go to upgrade with verizon the google nexus 4 is a great option due to pricing off contract. However it missing the 1 feature I want from my phone that I don't already have(iphone 4). LTE. Plus its gsm only. I would pick up an android phone if someone did 350 off contract with lte and cdma. Iphone 5 at 650 is too much. Hopefully that phone is the next nexus with a maxx type battery. If not I will continue to wait. If nothing like this happens might have to take a harder look at share plans and see how uch data I use.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 12:52

23. housry23 (Posts: 132; Member since: 03 Jun 2012)

I understand wanting LTE. I did too. I got it with the Galaxy Nexus on Verizon. It's fast. Blazing fast. But, I think you would be surprised at how fast T-Mobile HSPA+ is. AT&T HSPA+ is quite fast too, but not as fast as T-Mobile. LTE is great but it is a battery hog. If you use a lot of data, LTE will suck your battery dry. I recently dropped VZW, paid the ETF and went with Straight Talk. Couldn't be happier. If you are not downloading huge files, LTE is no big deal. If you are streaming music, video, browsing the web and other normal web usage, than LTE is not necessary. I know this from first hand experience. You'll be surprised at how much faster data is on GSM vs. CDMA 3G. Ultimately it's up to you, but for me it wasn't enough of an upgrade to warrant the price of post paid contracts any longer. The only time I got good usage out of LTE, was when I did a speed test to brag to people at how fast it is.

These things of course are MY opinion and MY experience. Others may say different. I just wanted to put my $0.02 in.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 01:15 1

13. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)

sooooo........it can use lte??

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 02:06 1

15. wendygarett (unregistered)

I'm also thinking the same thing... Title says incompatible lte... And yet the picture says it has lte... This article has no conclusion... Mystery!!!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 03:07 1

20. XPERIA-KNIGHT (unregistered)


posted on 26 Nov 2012, 01:30

14. tango_charlie (Posts: 341; Member since: 16 Nov 2011)

Google never claimed or advertised the N4 as a LTE device. So you know what you get for your money. BUT the not working host mode / usb OTG is another story!!! Both Goggle's Nexus 4 support page and the N4 Guidebook say that OTG is working on the N4, so that you are able to connect a mouse, keyboard or even a flash drive (with root). BUT it's working and called FALSE ADVERTISEMENT!

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 03:08

21. CRICKETownz (Posts: 980; Member since: 24 Oct 2009)

if iPhone can get away w/running 3G during an LTE age in the 4S when it released LG should be able to do the same thing considering the other highlighted features its running.

posted on 26 Nov 2012, 10:20

22. cnyte (Posts: 28; Member since: 24 Nov 2012)

no lte is a kill for me

posted on 30 Nov 2012, 14:04

27. sadiqsamm (Posts: 2; Member since: 13 Sep 2012)

I think lg cant afford to totally shy away from lte on nexus 4. my concern only is how do they plan to go about it when software update can't do that...probably a 'recall' will solve that. Hmnn. Still wondering why why why lg?!

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