The Samsung Galaxy S7 will allegedly use an internal heat pipe to minimize chipset throttling
posted by Mihai A. / Dec 03, 2015, 6:20 AM
A few months ago, in a time when Qualcomm had yet to unveil the full specifications of its upcoming Snapdragon 820 chipset, a rumor emerged claiming get that the SoC is plagued by overheating issues. The world's leading mobile chip manufacturer quickly addressed these rumors, claiming that the Snapdragon 820 runs within parameters. Now, since Qualcomm repeatedly denied that the Snapdragon 810 overheats despite a mountain of evidence suggesting otherwise, some remain skeptical regarding the chipmaker's claims.
Back to the rumor at hand, a report from Asia claims that the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S7 might integrate a heat pipe. Samsung is allegedly experimenting with various heat pipe types and shapes, and the manufacturer is said to decide for or against this heat-dissipation solution by the end of the year. Note that the Samsung Galaxy S7 wouldn't be the first smartphone to integrate a heat pipe. The Sony Xperia Z5 Premium, the Xiaomi Mi Note Pro, and the OnePlus 2 all integrate a similar solution in an attempt to minimize the Snapdragon 810 overheating problems.
According to unofficial information, the Samsung Galaxy S7 will come in two versions: one based on the Exynos 8890 chipset and one based on the Qualcomm Snapdragon 820. At this point, it should be mentioned that all smartphone chips throttle performance when dangerous temperature levels are reached and that a more effective heat dissipation system is likely to improve the overall performance of any mobile SoC.
Posts: 522; Member since: Apr 28, 2014
Nice , unleash the inner beast (Exynos8)!
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 6:22 AM 12
Posts: 379; Member since: Nov 03, 2011
Nice , unleash the inner beast (Exynos8)! Nice , unleash the inner beast (Exynos9)! Nice , unleash the inner beast (Exynos10)! Nice , unleash the inner beast (Exynos11)! Nice , unleash the inner beast (Exynos12)! Nice , unleash the inner beast (Exynos13)!
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 6:53 AM 6
Posts: 371; Member since: Jun 13, 2012
Looks like ARM processors are hitting the performance wall. Using heat pipes and heat sinks at 2ghz. People are finally going to rediscover what intel figured out you can't just keep upping clock to boost performance. Maybe people will start to appreciate the ipc increases with each generation of intel processors which go up like clock work.
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 10:51 AM 3
Posts: 646; Member since: Aug 20, 2014
Apple's A Series Processors are custom built ARM processors that hardly throttle at all. The difference is that Apple custom built their chips from A6 onwards and focused on max single core power and efficiency due to the battery constraints all devices deal with.
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 11:40 PM 0
Posts: 245; Member since: Oct 13, 2013
What beast? The s7 is going to be soooo MEH! Just watch and see. Its like a curse to samsung... first we hav already heard all the specs even b4 the phone was announced...but that's not even it... S....NO S2....wow S3...meh S4....yeah!!! S5...NO NO NO S6.... brilliant....best version since S2 S7...????? Its almost like after succeeding the previous year, there are covered by their success and then F up. One more thing is samsung made two versions of edge and flat phones for 2 screen sizes. 5.1 and 5.7.. That's 'S6,S6 edge' and 'Note5/S6 edge+' On 5.1 inch. The edge version sold more than the flat version On the 5.7 versions. The note 5 sold more than edge+ Not stup*d samsung want to make the flat version on 5.2 inch and edge version on 5.7 inch. Does this make sense? If I was using an S6 edge, and I want to upgrade to S7, I would have to go back to flat? For get S7 next year. Shift your attention to others.
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 6:58 AM 3
Great, anything to minimize throttling can only be a good thing.
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 6:26 AM 4
I'm seriously not trying to troll... This is to the commentators that say this kind of BS: I thought Samsung can do anything that iPhone can and more? Looks like Samsung (or pretty much any android) cannot run well without throttling. I though Apple doesn't innovate: yet iPhones don't throttle and the great innovator Samsung still working on a fix. (Disclaimer: not a hater of Samsung - just sound like one on purpose.)
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 10:42 AM 2
I would like to see the charts, since I've been reading that the G4 and the S6 while running slightly hotter, kept their performance so they aren't throttling that much. (as described in this articlehttp://bgr.com/2015/10/14/ipho
ne-6s-vs-2015-macbook-video/), Also cpu benchmarks hardly throttle the iPhone 6s but GPU intensive benchmarks do.
But the iphone 6 (not 6s) was prone to throttle after ten minutes already. So I wouldnt say the difference is day and night. Also I mentioned before the superscalar does help. The Ax series has lower frequency, but higher superscalars than for example a Exynos SOC. When it gets hot, it drops in frequency but the impact is less. Still wondering why only Apple and Nvidia went that way (the Denver K1 has even a higher superscalar)
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 4:27 PM 2
Posts: 646; Member since: Aug 20, 2014
A Series processors (A8, A9) only throttle after many consecutive graphics benchmarks which artificially peg the SoC. These performance demands will basically never be met inside 99.9% of usage. Both the Exynos and 810 are commonly forced to throttle during even a first test, and always by the second.
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 11:45 PM 1
posted on Dec 04, 2015, 2:58 AM 1
Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013
That's because iOS is like kindergarten level stuff and Android is like writing a 500 page thesis fir your PHD. How you isheep give Apple so much credit for getting an A in kindergarten is beyond me,...lol
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 12:50 PM 3
Taters app store has the most graphic intensive games and it plays super smooth with intense graphics. Look at AfterPulse or RR3. On top of that I play games and all my tasks with music playing in background while getting navigations. What is it that you do that's so much intensive that your SoC starts throttling nearly instantly vs iOS which you can't even notice for hours? just curious - what do you need your device to do that makes iOS seem like a toy?
posted on Dec 03, 2015, 3:47 PM 4
Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013
Some rare games do and gaming benchmarks certainly do. In fact, I believe the benchmarks state the resolution the benchmark us running at. Oh and I forgot to mention another huge advantage Apple has for games. Similar to how iPad apps are much more than blown up phone apps because that's where the money is and it's easy peasy to develop apps on one or two iPhones and iPads vs 50 million Android devices with different chipsets and different screens and batteries etc. Much easier to optimize an iPhone game and tune it. Either way, Apple hardware shouldn't get credit for it and it too often does from you Isheep. It's actually quite impressive that Android games run as well as they do considering the cards they have to play with.
posted on Dec 05, 2015, 5:49 AM 0
Posts: 2026; Member since: May 26, 2011
I've been using the Note5 for a few days and it's a noticeable performance bump from the Note3 and Note4. On top of that it rarely gets warm. It runs the warmest when charging through the adaptive charger. I've been playing a lot of games on it
posted on Dec 04, 2015, 6:19 PM 0
Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013
Apples ships only have 2 cores, those other chips have 4 and 8 cores. How are you even comparing this? All processors throttle at some point. The speed always goes up and down. No CPU Runs full speed all the time. 2 cores isn't going Rogue get as hot as 8. Also consider Samsung chips are pulling me workload than the iPhone has too, you have to consider throttling to prevent other issues. At East Samsung phones aren't catching on fire
posted on Dec 04, 2015, 9:06 PM 0
Send a warning to post author
Send a warning to Selected user.
The user has 0 warnings currently.
Next warning will result in ban!
Ban user and delete all posts
Message to PhoneArena moderator (optional):