Sony "not worried" about the fact that Samsung's Galaxy S5 is water resistant
posted by Florin T. / Feb 27, 2014, 6:39 PM
MWC 2014 is now over and, among many other things, the fair brought us two new, high-end water resistant Android smartphones: Sony’s Xperia Z2, and Samsung’s Galaxy S5. As you may know, Sony was the first to introduce a high-end smartphone that features a water resistant body: it was the Xperia Z, released in early 2013. But now, with the Galaxy S5 coming soon, Sony may feel that the uniqueness of its Xperias is being threatened. Or maybe not.
According to Ravi Nookala, President of Sony Mobile Communications USA, the company is “not worried about it” - it being the fact that the S5 is also water resistant. CNET talked to Ravi Nookala yesterday, and the exec was quick to mention that Sony “started the waterproof trend.”
The Xperia Z, which we’re mentioning above, was succeeded by the Z1 and the Z1S, the latter being a US-only variant that’s available at T-Mobile since January. Nookala said that the launch of Xperia Z1S was a turning point for Sony in the US, and “sales have exceeded expectations,” being “25% above its predecessor.”
Both the Xperia Z1S and Xperia Z2 (pictured above) are IP58-certified. Compared to the Samsung Galaxy S5 (pictured below) and its IP67 certification, the two Sony handsets have an advantage, as they are more waterproof, if we may put it this way. The Z1S and Z2 can be immersed in water beyond 1m (3.2 feet) for as long as you wish, while the Galaxy S5 is safe only when immersed in up to 1m of water for no more than 30 minutes. You can see more about how IP rating works here.
While the Xperia Z2 is expected to be released in March in some markets, it doesn’t look like it’ll be coming to the US soon. One of the reasons for this is that the Z1S was launched just last month. But Sony may introduce the new Z2 Stateside before FIFA 2014 World Cup debuts (June 12). Ravi Nookala said that Sony smartphones may see a sales boost in June, due to the fact that the company is one of the official FIFA partners for this year’s World Cup. As you can see in our Xperia Z1S review and our Xperia Z1 Compact review, 2014 FIFA World Cup logos are being placed on the smartphones’ retail boxes.
Samsung said that the Galaxy S5 would be launched globally on April 11 - so it will be in stores about a month later than the Xperia Z2. Still, the Z2 won't reach US shores before the S5, but Ravi Nookala is confident that, when T-Mobile customers will ask about the S5's waterproof capabilities, salespeople will present the Xperia Z1S as an alternative. Apparently, there are water tanks in about 700 T-Mobile USA locations for store staff to show how the Z1S can still function underwater, and even take photos while there. Too bad that this is possible only at T-Mobile.
Samsung Galaxy S5 OS: Android 6.0 Marshmallow, 5.1 Lollipop, 5.0 Lollipop, 4.4.4, 4.4.2 View Full specs
- Display 5.1" 1080 x 1920 pixels
- Camera 16 MP / 2.1 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 801, Quad-core, 2500 MHz
- Storage 32 GB + microSDXC
- Battery 2800 mAh(21h 3G talk time)
Sony Xperia Z2 OS: Android 6.0 Marshmallow, 5.1 Lollipop, 5.0 Lollipop, 4.4.4, 4.4.2 View Full specs
- Display 5.2" 1080 x 1920 pixels
- Camera 20.7 MP / 2.2 MP front
- Processor Qualcomm Snapdragon 801, Quad-core, 2300 MHz
- Storage 16 GB + microSDXC
- Battery 3200 mAh(19h 3G talk time)
Posts: 560; Member since: Aug 31, 2013
Of course not. Its not WATERPROOF. Archos guy(a couple articles back) knows it now lol.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 6:40 PM 15
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well, we will see soon whether the 'waterproof' capability is just a gimmick or real thing
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 6:56 PM 1
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I want Lava proof.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 7:40 PM 7
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Of course they're going to boast that they're not scared about it being water resistant. However Sony is going to sell about 1/10th as many Z2s as the S5... So that's nice that you're not scared, you're still technically losing.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 9:25 PM 3
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In business world its all it matters. If you sell or not. They aint selling super cars where they sell few exclusive ones and don't care for numbers. In smartphone world its all about how much u sell. And sony obviously cant even sell the 1/10 of Sammy. Which is sad. Really sad. Last night with group of friends who aint into tech started talking what phone a friend should get. EVERY SINGLE one of them mentioned a samsung phone. Sammy is doing wonders in the marketing department.
posted on Feb 28, 2014, 2:55 AM 0
But then does that mean that the Galaxy S5 is more dust proof since the first digit is higher?
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 6:45 PM 3
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Yep, it does mean that.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 6:50 PM 7
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I have feeling the T-Mobile USA version of the Sony Xperia Z2 will have a Qualcomm Snapdragon 805 SoC on its launch on June 2014. My guess is Z2s might be its name. I hope I'm right. So it's iPhone 6 versus Sony Xperia Z2s here in the States.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 7:21 PM 4
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Yes...as someone who ruined a $600 phone in the washing machine I appreciate this feature.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 7:27 PM 1
Not saying it would, but wouldn't a washer machine damage the S5 by taking apart the back of the phone in since the back is removable? So, your $600 phone would still get destroyed.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 7:43 PM 3
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To be fair, I don't think either phone would make it through the washing machine....that is brutal on any bit of technology. And most wash cycles take longer than the 30 minutes that the S5 is rated for, so assuming that both phones could survive the torture the washing machine would throw at them, the S5 would still probably give out first. Though on the beach or in the desert, the S5 would do better than the Z2 since it is more dustproof (having the highest dustproof rating available) So you would not have to worry about it at all in a sandstorm, thats pretty cool.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 9:10 PM 0
IP5X = "Ingress of dust is not entirely prevented, but it must not enter in sufficient quantity to interfere with the satisfactory operation of the equipment; complete protection against contact (dust proof)" So sand on the beach or in the desert will not damage or interfere with the performance of Z2 and only some "nano" particle can enter the phone. Even if you're buried S4 in the sand I'm sure S4 will not be damaged. When it comes to electronic devices water is far mor dangerous than dust. And Z2 with IPX8 can survive from immersion in water generally up to 3m.
posted on Feb 28, 2014, 6:13 AM 0
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Oh, I know. I'm not sure why you thought I was saying otherwise? I literally said that the S5 would give out in the water first.Trust me, I would also much rather have the better water rating. It will be much more handy for me. I was just commenting that it is cool that the S5 is completely dustproof, never did I say the Z2 wouldn't be able to handle the beach or desert...most phones will unless you decide to rub sand into it forcefully. The only time I could imagine being completely dustproof would make a difference is a sandstorm (which you shouldn't be out in) or in various industrial settings where fine particulate matter is common.
posted on Feb 28, 2014, 6:23 AM 0
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I still think ultimate test is a pillow case filled with all the top phones tossed into a dryer with heat off for say, twenty minutes. It'd be interesting to see what phone came out alive besides maybe Nokia. That's a rating.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 9:19 PM 0
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Sony really needs to get their crap together. The Z2 is an outstanding device, but unless they put it out on all the major carriers....it's going to need to be dust proof, because that's where it's going to be left behind.
posted on Feb 27, 2014, 10:21 PM 1
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