Snapdragon 820 specs reveal a next-gen 14nm process, better than in A9 or Exynos 7420

Snapdragon 820 specs reveal a next-gen 14nm process, better than in A9 or Exynos 7420
The full specs sheet of Qualcomm's newest and most powerful chipset to date - Snapdragon 820 - confirms the rumors and teases that it will be built with a next-gen LPP 14nm process, unlike the current phones with 14nm LPE edition.

The difference between the Low Power Early (LPE) and Low Power Plus or Performance (LPP) generations is what it says on the tin - LPE are the inaugural production batches of a die shrink, proving the viability of the move to this node, and generally exhibits a much faster performance with less power consumption in the same footptint as the previous generation.

The LPP process, on the other hand, is an improvement within the same 14nm generation, bringing about a higher performance within an even smaller power envelope than 14nm LPE, and LPP is what Snapdragon 820 will be built on, as you can see in the PDF specs sheet below. 

We'd wager to guess that the upcoming Exynos 8890 - which is another candidate to go into the future Galaxy S7 - will also be built on Samsung's second-gen 14nm LPP process, so these two should be crushing the benchmarks when they land. At the same time, they should be more frugal than the 14nm LPE chips like the Apple A9 in iPhone 6s, or the Exynos 7420 in the Galaxy S6, so we can't wait to see what the Galaxy S7 will have on offer in the power draw/performance ratio department.

source: Qualcomm (PDF)



1. vincelongman

Posts: 5692; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Another interesting thing is that its a big.LITTLE quad core (or dual dual core?) Its has a dual core cluster of "Kryo HP" @ 2.2Ghz And has a dual core cluster of "Kryo LP" @ 1.6-7Ghz

4. neela_akaash

Posts: 1239; Member since: Aug 05, 2014

Can't wait for Xiaomi Mi 5..... gonna be a hell of a package.

15. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

Finfet + lol. Just watch every OEM use this chip or/and the unreleased 815 next year...2016 gonna be lit!

18. jove39

Posts: 2146; Member since: Oct 18, 2011

It's not big.LITTLE...all 4 cores have same architecture...only difference is in clock speed and cache configuration. 2 x 2 cluster is unnecessary move by qualcomm...whatever qualcomm is trying to achieve with this could be done easily with just cpu governor! Anyway impressive soc...looking forward to 2016 devices.

38. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

It is a custom biglittle scheme from Qualcomm.

2. GreekGeek

Posts: 1276; Member since: Mar 22, 2014

Better be ''better'' or else Qualcomm will surely bite the dust

47. cheetah2k

Posts: 2256; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

If the 820 is only marginally better than the 7420, the Exynos 8890 gonna be miles ahead again.. I feel Qualcomm's high end CPU's are falling into the mid range CPU bracket due to the 810 heating issues slowing them down.

3. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

cant wait the first phone with that beast ?

11. g2a5b0e unregistered

You're not sure if you can wait or not?

5. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Still wonder why none of these soc makers use the same principal as Apple and Nvidia and use a wider superscalar. This has proven to be quite fast and less prone to throttle.

7. Tizo101

Posts: 539; Member since: Jun 05, 2015

from what I understand the reason might be efficiency, although that is becoming a moot point now - why waste perfectly good methods when you can easily clock the cores higher.

10. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Because you can't easily clock the cores higher. They'll hit diminishing returns long before they hit their thermal limit. Plus internal architecture needs adjustment the more you scale.

12. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Because wider superscalars improve performance with lower frequencies. Lower frequencies means lower power consumption, less heat, less throttling. So actually they are more efficient

21. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Lower frenquencies also mean a latency when its crank up the frequencies and end up with lower bandwith.

22. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

6 way superscalar at 1.5 Ghz has less latency than 3 way superscalar at 2 Ghz. You would have been right when both superscalars would have been equally wide.

27. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Still end up with lower bandwith and its show on higher resolution idevices like iphone 6+ and 6S + and ipad too ( i have ipad air 2 and its lag a lots... )

31. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Please note all the speed you see in the new iPhone 6s as nothing to do with the A9 CPU, but is linked to them moving away from Emmc HD like Samsung did and just like when Samsung did it the speed of the OS and the phone goes up big time as you can r and w at the same time

43. vincelongman

Posts: 5692; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Money Qualcomm sell their SoCs Wider cores mean more die space, which means more costs from TMSC/Samsung/GF So usually they prefer using smaller cores with a higher clockrate

6. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

Can't wait for the Lumia 1050.

32. markoss

Posts: 24; Member since: Nov 04, 2015

I can not wait to see him in the lg g5

33. markoss

Posts: 24; Member since: Nov 04, 2015

You'll wait a lot, in the autumn of next year

45. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

41MP.........hell yea

8. byazatt

Posts: 316; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

I wanna see what the new exynos brings to the table as well.

19. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

From records, the Exynos knocked Qualcomn outs easily so I think it's going to be the same thing for this time again. At least Samsung lets Qualcomn enjoy their game for the time being. When Samsung releases their monster Exynos 8890, we will see the SD 820 is a joke. Don't get me wrong, the 820 can be the 8890's rival, but only if the thermal issue is gone. And without Samsung's 14nm performance, it's nothing.

20. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Well, they could have used 16nm from TSMC or 14nm from GF. Don't try so hard looking like a Samsung fanboy. It's not pretty.

23. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Hallyu you need to stop been so blind. In past years Qualcomm beaten Samsung year after year. Exynos 54XX where overheating mess as well. Its not because qualcomm made the mistake to use crappy big little architecture ( thats turn any soc into an oven even the last exynos throttle by 40% after 15 min. Wake up man.

34. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Hm, the 5433 was limited by Samsung as it was way better than the 805

39. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

It was limited by thermal headroom. Exynos 5433 heats like an iron.

40. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

With the help of biglittle Exynos have always been faster than slowdragons.

9. TyrionLannister unregistered

Man, this sure is an awesome chip. 4k@60fps 10-bit decode and 1080p@240 fps. These are amazing.

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