Snapdragon 820 specs reveal a next-gen 14nm process, better than in A9 or Exynos 7420

Snapdragon 820 specs reveal a next-gen 14nm process, better than in A9 or Exynos 7420
The full specs sheet of Qualcomm's newest and most powerful chipset to date - Snapdragon 820 - confirms the rumors and teases that it will be built with a next-gen LPP 14nm process, unlike the current phones with 14nm LPE edition.

The difference between the Low Power Early (LPE) and Low Power Plus or Performance (LPP) generations is what it says on the tin - LPE are the inaugural production batches of a die shrink, proving the viability of the move to this node, and generally exhibits a much faster performance with less power consumption in the same footptint as the previous generation.

The LPP process, on the other hand, is an improvement within the same 14nm generation, bringing about a higher performance within an even smaller power envelope than 14nm LPE, and LPP is what Snapdragon 820 will be built on, as you can see in the PDF specs sheet below. 

We'd wager to guess that the upcoming Exynos 8890 - which is another candidate to go into the future Galaxy S7 - will also be built on Samsung's second-gen 14nm LPP process, so these two should be crushing the benchmarks when they land. At the same time, they should be more frugal than the 14nm LPE chips like the Apple A9 in iPhone 6s, or the Exynos 7420 in the Galaxy S6, so we can't wait to see what the Galaxy S7 will have on offer in the power draw/performance ratio department.


source: Qualcomm (PDF)

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45 Comments

48. ollehKT

Posts: 1; Member since: Nov 19, 2015

NO MORE OVERHEAT PLEASE

46. guest

Posts: 372; Member since: Jun 13, 2012

Theoretically. The 810 put out great numbers until it was launched.

44. jeroome86

Posts: 2314; Member since: Apr 12, 2012

Don't put that 820 in your Note 6 Samsung. This will be the one thing you do that would be a no buy.

41. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

at 3GHz and it'll overheat alot and throttle too quickly

37. Loveneesh

Posts: 457; Member since: Jul 14, 2015

If they clock kryo cores at 3.0 ghz. Then it is surely a hell package.

36. Loveneesh

Posts: 457; Member since: Jul 14, 2015

If they clock kryo cores at 3.0 ghz. Then it is surely a hell package.

35. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

Hey look, a new chip is better and faster than an old chip. "Nothing here to see citizen's. Just go back to your miserable lives" - Mr Potato Head. lol Sorry Qualcomm, you lost me at 810. I will never buy a phone with a Snapdragon inside. At first, I was hyped on SnapDragon, but after you lied you lost by trust. I trust that Samsung was smarter than any OEM who chose to use your fire-810. Thanks Samsung for having the prowess to not literally burn your customers. For all the OEM's who chose to use the SD810 and sold a non/underperforming phone at full price...BURN IN HELL!!!!

29. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

And even more expensive devices. $1k would be lowest price for the high-end ones. *meh*

25. sam3k

Posts: 130; Member since: May 02, 2013

Ooh yes 2016 is shaping up to be another great year for S.O.C, can't wait to see this and other 2016 chip in competition, you know this is always good for us consumers..

9. TyrionLannister unregistered

Man, this sure is an awesome chip. 4k@60fps 10-bit decode and 1080p@240 fps. These are amazing.

14. zeeBomb

Posts: 2318; Member since: Aug 14, 2014

I know right? Saw all these specs and was like "Oh man, qualcomm really outdid themselves”.

16. Hexa-core

Posts: 2131; Member since: Aug 11, 2015

amazing indeed, let alone LTE cat. 12, 600Mbps!!!

24. TyrionLannister unregistered

That's one of the useless bit for me. Outside countries like S. Korea, carriers will not support these speeds in 4-5 years. My carrier gives about 60-70 Mbps down and about 40 up.

28. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Yeah in Canada its max 100 mb down and about 60 up wich is more than enuf..

26. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

As i said before we dont need the highest benchmark scoore anymore ( any mid end SOC and even some low end can run everything smoothly with no lag ) What we need is real advancement and 60 fps 4k will be crazy! Thats and Hardware built antimalware those are what we need now. Even if its 25% slower than new exynos will we even feel it in real life usage?

42. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

25% difference is pretty visible especially when there is no free space in performance.

8. byazatt

Posts: 316; Member since: Oct 26, 2012

I wanna see what the new exynos brings to the table as well.

19. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

From records, the Exynos knocked Qualcomn outs easily so I think it's going to be the same thing for this time again. At least Samsung lets Qualcomn enjoy their game for the time being. When Samsung releases their monster Exynos 8890, we will see the SD 820 is a joke. Don't get me wrong, the 820 can be the 8890's rival, but only if the thermal issue is gone. And without Samsung's 14nm performance, it's nothing.

20. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Well, they could have used 16nm from TSMC or 14nm from GF. Don't try so hard looking like a Samsung fanboy. It's not pretty.

23. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Hallyu you need to stop been so blind. In past years Qualcomm beaten Samsung year after year. Exynos 54XX where overheating mess as well. Its not because qualcomm made the mistake to use crappy big little architecture ( thats turn any soc into an oven even the last exynos throttle by 40% after 15 min. Wake up man.

34. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Hm, the 5433 was limited by Samsung as it was way better than the 805

39. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

It was limited by thermal headroom. Exynos 5433 heats like an iron.

40. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

With the help of biglittle Exynos have always been faster than slowdragons.

6. sip1995

Posts: 1771; Member since: Feb 07, 2014

Can't wait for the Lumia 1050.

32. markoss

Posts: 24; Member since: Nov 04, 2015

I can not wait to see him in the lg g5

33. markoss

Posts: 24; Member since: Nov 04, 2015

You'll wait a lot, in the autumn of next year

45. akki20892

Posts: 3902; Member since: Feb 04, 2013

41MP.........hell yea

5. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Still wonder why none of these soc makers use the same principal as Apple and Nvidia and use a wider superscalar. This has proven to be quite fast and less prone to throttle.

7. Tizo101

Posts: 644; Member since: Jun 05, 2015

from what I understand the reason might be efficiency, although that is becoming a moot point now - why waste perfectly good methods when you can easily clock the cores higher.

10. Finalflash

Posts: 4063; Member since: Jul 23, 2013

Because you can't easily clock the cores higher. They'll hit diminishing returns long before they hit their thermal limit. Plus internal architecture needs adjustment the more you scale.

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