Qualcomm confirms next-gen 14nm process for Snapdragon 820, debunks overheating rumors

Qualcomm confirms next-gen 14nm process for Snapdragon 820, debunks overheating rumors
Qualcomm is apparently fed up with all the Snapdragon 820 rumormongering, and came up with an official statement on its Weibo page that its upcoming beast of a chipsets meets and exceeds all performance specifications, including the thermal ones.

Back in August, we heard that Samsung is testing its next Galaxy S7 with both Snapdragon 820 and next-gen Exynos 8890 chipsets, with the 820 getting the engineering nod to be fitted in the S7 for certain markets. Afterwards, another report claimed that Qualcomm has supplied Samsung with an even better, 3.X version of the Snapdragon 820, on which it has spent quite a lot of time at further optimizations, which we'd assume include better heat management, too. In fact, the chip-maker now confirms officially that the 820 will be made with the next-gen 14nm production process, which should bring about better overall performance.

It must have irked Qualcomm to no end then to hear the rumor that was distributed the other day about Snapdragon 820 overheating. Allegedly, Samsung is battling with thermal issues on the 820 still, and mulling a software optimization, or, if all else fails, a radiating heat pipe, like what Sony did with Snapdragon 810 on the Xperia Z5 trio. It's not every day that the PR department of Qualcomm comes out in force to comment on and deny rumors, but after the 810 heating drama, we can understand why the company is eager to keep the image of its next-gen Snapdragon 820 intact.

source: Qualcomm via G4Games



27. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

I feel sorry for Qualcomm, if anything, they are probably under shooting if anything. I wouldn't mind a little more heat for better performance but this thing will probably skew well towards battery and cool temperatures rather than maximum performance. Which is a shame. Oh well, you can thank the media for that and the battery w***es should be happy.

26. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Only time will tell.

24. trqster

Posts: 177; Member since: May 17, 2013

We've got a scorcher coming... Bring on the SD830 already Qualcomm! :))

21. ILikeBubbles

Posts: 525; Member since: Jan 17, 2011

All this is, is a sad story of fans putting a manufacturer on a pedestal just so they can tear them down later. It happens in every business... People love to see someone in power fall.. Regardless of whether they deserve it or not.

19. johanbiff

Posts: 415; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

we just have to wait and see. I do belive that qualcomm/samsung will make this work and really hope they do! if SD820 will be as good as A9 or above there will be many phones next year that`s on the wishing list(non with SD810 where on mine this year so whent with the S6, but that could change if there is more to choose from)

9. DarkStar286

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 18, 2014

Really can't imagine Qualcomm will drop the ball again, especially considering the 820 sees them returning to their own custom cores. If they can come up with something as good as Krait was when it was released then the 820's going to have one hell of a CPU.

6. MichiGo

Posts: 173; Member since: Sep 09, 2014

"Why the f*** you lyin? Why you always lyin? Mmmhmm oh my gawd stop f***in lyin!!!" I'll believe it when I see it Qualcomm

7. DarkStar286

Posts: 229; Member since: Mar 18, 2014

And how do you know they're lying? Have you been testing the 820?

5. Xperia14

Posts: 1208; Member since: Sep 01, 2015

The Z5 doesn't get warmer than my Z2 (which also has a heat pipe btw). In fact, the Z5 performs very well with the SD810. So tcalling it 'heating drama' is out of proportion in my opinion...

8. hanabi

Posts: 177; Member since: Oct 08, 2015

says a guy named 'xperia' :P

14. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0poGnW6IVQ M9 is on the right. Its in fact the most cool one of the M7 M8 and M9. So stop been an ass yes its throttle but its dont overheat not more than past handset also its stay butter smooth for UI and gaming performance wich is ALL thats matter!

17. Shocky unregistered

The M9 throttles more than another other device the market. Now, why does it throttle more than any other device on the market?

23. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

If I downclock my device's GPU, memory and CPU to MSM7227 level (that's an armv6 SoC of the past) it would be cooler than any existing device ;) But that does not mean that it would have better efficiency and performance.

4. Shocky unregistered

This is meaningless coming from Qualcomm.

12. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

and beside when abusing 4k movie on camera not a single one did overheat. But i also got exynos based phone with same overheating with camera only thing is samsung limited to 5 min 4k movie to artificially make the problem disapear but do like 3-4 time 5 min 4k in a row and your camera will shutdown. But the most important thing is none of those device slowdown in any others usage type even gaming! So lets stop the useless propaganda.

15. Shocky unregistered

It's more of a precautionary limitation, or maybe they just don't want users to fill their storage with 4k video, only Samsung know the answer. However if you root you can bypass the 5 minute limit and record for as long as you want and users have been doing just that without any real issues.

22. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Stop lying. Mi Note Pro testing clearly reveals that A430 throttles down to 60% of its maximum performance after a couple minutes of gaming. As for camera, Exynos 7420 doesn't even have an ISP thermal sensor so you're lying once again.

29. ph00ny

Posts: 2085; Member since: May 26, 2011

That's why OEM underclocked the 810? I guess you know more than some of these companies do

2. Monsterhunter

Posts: 42; Member since: Oct 14, 2015

One mess up and you pay for it. Crazy. I'm curious to see where chips will be in 5 years. Performance performance. Hopefully the battery keeps up and the screen to body ratio decreases substantially and becomes the norm.

1. cripton805

Posts: 1485; Member since: Mar 18, 2012

That's what they said about the 810... "Why you always lying" song comes to mind. lol

10. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

If I was someone working at Qualcomm, I'd be careful of what I say after a failure. And I'm sure all of them would oblige with the thermal problem of 810. So this time, however, I'm hoping what they clarified is true for their sake. If it happens again, it would be them who cried "wolf".

11. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Yep why are some ppl always lying and not saying all facts. Exynos overheat as well and throttle up to 40%. But why ppl dont say the truth.. no slowdown on any SD810 device in UI or gaming. Only in benchmark. Do you need benchmark to live? some ppl need to stop been moronic fool.

16. Shocky unregistered

They all throttle you idiot, the issue is SN810 throttles more than any other. Why can't you can that through your thick head?

20. johanbiff

Posts: 415; Member since: Mar 31, 2015

oohh marorun you`r so random! now, stop being a bitch and accept that the SD810 and HTC is a failure.

28. HighOnAndroidFTW

Posts: 185; Member since: Apr 26, 2015

They do throttle after gaming and mild to heavy usage.not just benchmarks dumb ***.do your research.

13. UglyFrank

Posts: 2200; Member since: Jan 23, 2014

MMM-oh my God, stop your overheating

18. Acer_Predator unregistered

Qualcom will be DEAD soon .. Kirin 950 gonna be The KING! And Helio X20 is prince :)

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