Snapdragon 810 myths busted - no overheating, excellent 4K and gaming performance

Snapdragon 810 myths busted - no overheating, excellent 4K and gaming performance
The Snapdragon 810! Never has Qualcomm produced a more mythical SoC for the masses' smartphones and tablets. Does it heat up like a torch? Does it pound the competition with a math-busting, graphics-crunching hammer? While we do have a good all-around idea about the answers to both questions (especially the first, as Samsung's latest Exynos SoC is Qualcomm's new boogeyman), it's the first time we've had a thorough, benchmarks-lined look at the chipset's thermal, processing, and connectivity performance. 

Slashgear managed to put the Qualcomm Mobile Developer Platform (MDP smartphone and tablet - literally the most amped-up mobile devices money and a developer certificate can buy - through benchmarks and testing. The tablet has a 4K display and 4GB of RAM, while the smartphone has a 2K display and operates with 3GB RAM. Here's what we get to learn:

The benchmarks are impressive!


In AnTuTu, the MDP smartphone racked up a stupendously high total score of 61,692. Note that this is most likely a single pass score and the SoC hasn't throttled itself down drastically. If the test was to be run again immediately, the score would have been lower - but not significantly, in this monster of a SoC's case! Meanwhile, the MDP tablet with its 4K display scored 52,102 points. Here's some perspective, folks. Right now, the most powerful smartphone in our database is the Snapdragon 805-driven Nexus 6, which has a 2K display and scored 56,836 points in AnTuTu. The Qualcomm Adreno 430 GPU is able to drive a 4K display with an intensity that almost matches the Adreno 420 handling a 2K screen.



Global connectivity is a sure thing


Qualcomm went absolutely nuts in future-proofing its latest silicon for connectivity. The Snapdragon 810 supports the Cat 9 LTE standard, and is compatible with all major cellular standards and technologies supported by 4G LTE, including GSM/EDGE, CDMA1x/EVDO, TD-SCDMA and WCDMA/HSPA+. It even works in China, where one will find all seven cellular standards of today. The peak downlink rates are up to 450 Mbps.



Rumors of overheating are greatly exaggerated


Qualcomm is continuing with the damage control after those reports of the Snapdragon 810 overheating tarnished its flagship reputation. It provided an estimate of the temperatures the silicon reaches under typical usage scenarios. Under light usage - making phone calls, shooting photos, browsing typical websites - system temperature stays at 86 to 95F (30 to 35 degrees Celsiuis), which isn't anything out of order. The temperature levels could rise up to 113F (45 degrees Celsiuis) while playing demanding games. This is the point where thermal mitigation engages and brings the clock frequency down to turn down the heat. 

Reportedly, the Snapdragon 810 can manage a comfortable temperature of around 104F (40 degrees C) for more than thirty minutes after heavy load. It also reaches only 95F (35C) after five minutes of 4K video recording, while older Snapdragon 801-based devices outright forced the user to stop videotaping.


Conclusion


The Snapdragon 810 is packed with forward looking technology that's proprietary to Qualcomm - such as computational photography, advanced noise cancellation, Dolby Atmos, Sense Audio, Quick Charge, and more. We are curious how the competition will match these.

The Snapdragon 810 will enter mass production by mid-March, which means any flagship smartphones from MWC 2015 that don't have "Samsung" written on them should start shipping by April and May. Meanwhile, the LG G Flex 2 and Xiaomi Mi Note Pro will be launching even earlier in selected countries.


source: Slashgear

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134 Comments

1. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

Looks promising for the HTC M9 I most likely will be buying this year.

46. kalloud

Posts: 155; Member since: Jun 21, 2012

Don't forget the HTC One M9 will most likely have a1080p display in addition to HTC's optimizations, it will FLY !!

66. RebelwithoutaClue unregistered

I really hope it's 1080p (to me anything more is overkill) and it will look like the renders in the article itsdeepak mentioned, it will be a most definite buy for me.

78. Niva.

Posts: 440; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

Right on, I'm also eagerly awaiting the M9 release and hoping for a 1080 screen.

92. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I am lost to why pa have made a big deal of this, the phone doing the test is a brick and is very big how is it going to overheat,it's like 3 times as thick as the not4

110. Skizzo

Posts: 425; Member since: Jul 14, 2013

The "phone" is not what's thick, but the protective case on this pre-production test model is. It's likely to do with everything from protecting the phone from the hundreds of hands it will pass through during the various test runs (think Otterbox), to an added external large battery so that it'll last much longer between charges during the rigorous testing, etc. Look how far indented the back "camera" is. No actual phone would look like that, so in all likely hood, it's a standard sized phone in a massive case. In any case (pun intended) such a large enclosure probably inhibits the performance if anything due to added insulation and heat (although it has the large vents on the back.)

47. itsdeepak4u2000

Posts: 3718; Member since: Nov 03, 2012

73. amats69

Posts: 1527; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

promising indeed! hima's complete specs and accessories http://upleaks.info/2015/02/13/htc-one-m9hima/

79. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

You joking right, have you scene the size of that phone, it's going to be clock on the hire power amd no way of over heating, I.e. It will have been setup to run like a tablet

103. amats69

Posts: 1527; Member since: Nov 12, 2012

oh i didnt "scene" that lol... and what the heck is "hire power"? u drunk bro?

2. Kakarotto

Posts: 255; Member since: Dec 07, 2010

14nm > 20nm

8. itsjustJOH

Posts: 232; Member since: Oct 18, 2012

No s**t.

11. zaza991988

Posts: 16; Member since: Aug 27, 2014

Physically Speaking, 14nm < 20 nm , technology wise 14nm transistors should be better that 20 nm transistors if the leakage current is reduced.

12. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Mali > Adreno

18. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Stop trolling, Mali T760 MP6 on 20nm gets beaten by Adreno 420 on 28nm.

37. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

In what game?) You have no proofs.

61. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

In every graphicsbenchmark there is? Its hard to get data on gamebench since they dont share there database openly. And the article they made had 1 recording for the SD805 and a ton for Exynos, so that is hardly conclusive.

68. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

And how can you say then that Mali is beaten? ;)

105. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Did you even read my reply? You are welcome to show some game examples run by the same person in same environment for the phones or where a bigger amount of each phones were used by random people.

74. sorcio46

Posts: 435; Member since: Jul 27, 2011

In 3DMark Unlimited and GLBenchmark... troll fanoboy spotted here!

81. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

That's synthetics. Real world tests, please. Oh, there are some... They say that Adreno fails to outperform Mali.

106. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Then link some tests that were done under same environment or by a large amount of devices.

70. tdslam720

Posts: 70; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

anandtech.com/show/8933/snapdragon-810-performance​-preview/6 Oh yeah getting destroyed /s

109. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Where did I say destroy? Now you are just putting words in my mouth. Adreno at 28nm is better than Mali at 20nm, that means Adreno is the better architecture. Now take a look at SD810 vs Exynos 5433, when both use the same node, now is a more appropriate time to say Adreno destroys Mali.

93. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

The s6 got mp8 sorry to say, it kills the 420 doa

107. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Yes, it makes total sense comparing a 14nm SoC to a 28nm. The point was that even at 28nm Adreno could beat Mali at 20nm. 14nm Mali in the 7420 is better than the 20nm Adreno in SD810, but not by much. Just because they have a node advantage doesn't mean the architecture is better, Adreno is a better architecture and on the same node, Mali doesn't stand a chance.

34. usermaxthon

Posts: 70; Member since: Jan 20, 2015

Time to wake up from the dream.

25. Iodine

Posts: 1515; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

If exynos was 14nm, it would be faster than this without a problem.

41. AsimSiddiq

Posts: 52; Member since: Jan 20, 2015

Really and why ? PA have just changed the previous article regarding the benchmarks and they too are now stating that the s810 is now much faster

84. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

It's ona dev phone that is very big and with a big battery and so on I.e. Can see setup like a tablet, this is a joke

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