Qualcomm: Snapdragon 810 won't power "a large customer's flagship device" - is that the Galaxy S6?

Qualcomm: Snapdragon 810 won't power
Qualcomm today announced its financial results for the first quarter of fiscal 2015, posting revenue of $7.1 billion and a operating income of $2.1 billion. All's well here, but the chipmaker also said that it had lowered its outlook for the second half of fiscal 2015. One of the reasons for this is the "expectation that our Snapdragon 810 processor will not be in the upcoming design cycle of a large customer's flagship device."

Qualcomm doesn't provide further details on the issue, but we recently heard that Samsung would drop the Snapdragon 810 from its upcoming Galaxy S6 flagship - not because the 810 overheats, but simply because Samsung seemingly wants the new handset to be exclusively powered by its own octa-core, 14nm Exynos 7420 processor. Today's announcement from Qualcomm can probably be seen as a confirmation: the Snapdragon 810 and the Galaxy S6 won't roll together.

Qualcomm's Snapdragon 810 is already being used by LG (in its G Flex 2) and Xiaomi (in its Mi Note Pro). Other big smartphone makers will almost surely also rely on the 810 in the near future, though it's unlikely that any of them will order as many chipsets as Samsung would have done for its S6 (which, of course, is expected to reach millions of units sold in no time).

The good news, if we may put it this way, is that many Samsung fans don't seem to care about the fact that the S6 won't use Qualcomm's processor.

source: Qualcomm

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Galaxy S6
  • Display 5.1" 1440 x 2560 pixels
  • Camera 16 MP / 5 MP front
  • Processor Samsung Exynos 7 Octa, Octa-core, 2100 MHz
  • Storage 128 GB
  • Battery 2550 mAh(23h 3G talk time)



1. grahaman27

Posts: 364; Member since: Apr 05, 2013

GOOD! 14nm heterogeneous 8 core sounds like innovation to me! screw snapdraggin

2. karim77

Posts: 70; Member since: Dec 10, 2012

Qualcomm is surely pissed of but they will never admit it

9. nimd4

Posts: 9; Member since: Nov 16, 2011

What makes you say that, just because they will potentially lose-out on billions of dollars in profit next year.

3. tango_charlie

Posts: 347; Member since: Nov 16, 2011

As long as the phone preforms decent in real life tasks (browsing, gaming..) it can be powered by Granny Smith home-made soc as well.

7. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

^^ True

4. realjjj

Posts: 375; Member since: Jan 28, 2014

Ofc it's Samsung, nobody else has a chip alternative. Nvidia doesn't get into phones , Mediatek has 1 high end chip but not high end enough , Inetl is not there yet, Marvell isn't playing in the high end now. So everybody besides Samsung can't do jack no matter how SD810 performs ,they don't want to buy from from Samsung so they are stuck with Qualcomm. Now maybe they learn their lesson and make sure to diversify their suppliers inthe future.

43. Niva.

Posts: 440; Member since: Jan 05, 2015

Nvidia will look to put a modem on the followup to the x1. By then it will be a battle with intel too.

50. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Thre are loads of alternatives, what there aren't are BETTER alternatives. That's what points to Samsung, they are the only ones with a SoC that performs better than the 810 (at least in early benchmarks). And they would love to have more suppliers, it's just that is nearl impossible... if one SoC manufacterer manages to create a better SoC than anyone it will become the "the facto" monipolistic provider. Happened to Intel in the PC, so it did with Qualcomm in the smartphones. I'm not sure there is a solution for that.

5. leotrim

Posts: 27; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

Nice Job Samsung / Exynos 7420 14nm 8 cores.......

10. MySchizoBuddy

Posts: 159; Member since: Aug 23, 2011

these are dual quad cores. only one set of quad cores runs at a time. All 8 cores never run at the same time.

13. Macready

Posts: 1824; Member since: Dec 08, 2014

Not true, the chip supports HMP, using all 8 cores at the same time. See the official announcement (or the 5433 prior to it).

16. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

100% all 8 cores at the same time, that's why it's listed in geekbenth and does big time damage, the 810 is real crap anyways going by any geekbenth listing, all 810 phones will be crap or will soon get an update

30. hung2900

Posts: 966; Member since: Mar 02, 2012

It's true 8-core since Galaxy S5

6. mostafawael.1998

Posts: 241; Member since: Oct 01, 2014

Well this is a smart move from Sammy exynos 14 nm SoC is a great headstart and is far much better than the 20 nm Snapdragon but I hope that they have no production delays, and that they can produce many exynos chips, as one of the reasons that Samsung made a mix between Qualcomm and its chips is that Samsung wasn'tt capable of producing the Exynos chips is massive amounts Let's wait and see the actual annoumcement I am really more than excited for the galaxy S6 (edge)

17. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

They not making any crap a8 or a8x and they opened new plants so they easy have room

8. sorcio46

Posts: 435; Member since: Jul 27, 2011

I will jump this generation if Qualcomm will not be it, crappy closed source Exynos won't open my wallet.

11. nimd4

Posts: 9; Member since: Nov 16, 2011

Interesting, tnx. Proprietary technology, in any shape-or-form is always something to -surely- avoid. =)

19. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

There will be more roms for the s6 than all the other 810 phones added up

31. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

Quality >> quantity. I'll rather take 1 very stable rom over 20 bugged ones

35. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

I hope they sort out the 810 problems for you, you going to need them

46. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

The rumors that there is no proof for? And please don't link any article about a lagging demo unit being constantly pushed at 100% brightness in a warm room.

51. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

There is not HARD proof, but the suspiction have started to pile up that the overheating issues in the 810 are more than just rumors. Anandtech: "these demo phones were running in poor conditions for benchmarks, as maximum brightness was constantly reduced due to thermal throttling." And the geekbench scores shows that 810 has lower scores than the Exynos5433 (forget the 7420 that is in a better fab node): LG Flex 2:http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1708160 Note 4 (Exynos):http://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/1714607 Add to that the preliminary scores for the 7420 and you see why people are not dissapointed of not getting the Snapdragon 810 in the Samsung Galaxy S6

12. jaytai0106

Posts: 1888; Member since: Mar 30, 2011

Time to buy their stock in the second half of 2015 when we see it dips.

14. NuRay

Posts: 15; Member since: Jan 04, 2015

It seems like 810 is a rushed product. Major shift to 64bit Socs must have suprised them at late 2013. If they had foreseen it they would have made 810 with Krait cores (or next generation custom ARM chip). I guess they'll try to make a come back with 820.

27. bur60

Posts: 981; Member since: Jul 07, 2014

You could say that, but Qualcomm was busy with 64 bit chips way before Android 64bit was announced, but yea 810 seems rushed

15. Derekjeter

Posts: 1515; Member since: Oct 27, 2011

Ok so....what's the real difference between the 810 and Exynos? Seriously how much more can one out shine the other?

20. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

USA carrier compatibility is one. The SD does better with graphics as well, less battery drain too.

25. medicci37

Posts: 1361; Member since: Nov 19, 2011

No way! Graphics on the Exynos will be better than snapdragon because the shrink in die size compared to snapdragon. Also Samsung uses unmodified arm Mali graphics cores

32. wargreymon

Posts: 764; Member since: Nov 05, 2013

"Should be". We don't know the setup for the gpu that it will use.

37. j2001m

Posts: 3061; Member since: Apr 28, 2014

Samsung wil have better modem then the sd810, no joke, plus less battery use

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