Samsung sued by Ericsson over refusal to renew FRAND patents

Samsung sued by Ericsson over refusal to renew FRAND patents
One of the phones involved with the Ericsson patents is the Samsung Galaxy S III

One of the phones involved with the Ericsson patents is the Samsung Galaxy S III

According to Swedish tech firm Ericsson, Samsung is currently selling unlicensed mobile devices after a patent deal signed by both firms in 2001 and renewed in 2007, expired. The patents covered by the licensing pact are standards essential patents meaning that they are covered by the FRAND rules which means that licensing deals for these patents should be "fair, reasonable, and non-discriminatory". Ericsson claims that Samsung wants to "renew its license at a rate that is a small fraction of the rate other similarly situated companies pay Ericsson," the filing said. "Samsung's refusal to pay a FRAND rate gives it an unfair competitive advantage over its competitors who have licensed Ericsson's patents." As a result, Ericsson says that Samsung has sold hundreds of millions of unlicensed products including the Samsung Galaxy S III.

Not only has Samsung failed to renew the agreement with Ericsson, it has also refused to allow Ericsson to license any of its FRAND patents in an attempt to get Ericsson to cut the price of its licensing terms. The Swedish firm pointed out how Samsung in court said that all companies using a standard in its products need to agree to FRAND licensing terms, but once it is in this position itself with Ericsson, Samsung refuses to agree to terms. Eleven Ericsson patents are involved in the suit.

The smartphones involved in the battle with Ericsson include the Samsung Galaxy S III, Samsung Galaxy S II, Samsung GALAXY Note, Samsung Galaxy S 4G and the Windows Phone based Samsung Focus and Samsung Focus S.


source: PCMag

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34 Comments

1. Topcat488

Posts: 1409; Member since: Sep 29, 2012

I'M a OG-Note user, and i say if Sammy doesn't pay sue them... To be fair here, Samsung raise the price 20% on Apple for their product... Inflation is a bitch!

2. Aeires unregistered

SS needs to do the right thing and just pay the fees.

25. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

good point - just get the money from APPLE and hand it over to Ericsson. Man, Samsung should just get the deal done, so that they concentrate on the issues with APPLE.

32. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

I think Samsung has made enough to pay Ericsson. Don't become what you hated most.

3. asulect

Posts: 131; Member since: Aug 27, 2012

Samsung may just want to lose here. If Samsung lose, it can ask Apple to pay the same inflated FRAND rate. If it wins against Ericsson, then Apple will use this case as hypocrisy against Samsung.

33. V3TTOO

Posts: 27; Member since: Nov 29, 2012

This is an awesome point. I hope that is what is going on and they aren't just being hypocrites.

4. Katrina

Posts: 84; Member since: Aug 17, 2012

lol its like no one gives a crap about ericsson anymore, ever since sony bought them out. haha glad that sony did that. lol yea but still sammy should just pay it and not be a d**k like apple. -..-

7. aokde

Posts: 186; Member since: Jul 09, 2012

sony didn't buy ericsson, sony bought their 50% share from ericsson, there's a difference. get your facts right.

11. Katrina

Posts: 84; Member since: Aug 17, 2012

Same thing thats what I meant. Bought them out bought out their shares. Them referring to their shares, stop acting like a smart ass, going through peoples post and find their mistakes when there's no mistakes, just cause you want to defend Sammy.

18. smallworld

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 13, 2012

You're wrong again...

23. BillyG

Posts: 305; Member since: Sep 24, 2012

blind and stupid. perfect combo.

31. aokde

Posts: 186; Member since: Jul 09, 2012

I'm not defending samsung nor i'm defending sony, am just saying, you should get your facts right. And btw, i'm a hardcore sony fan.

5. smallworld

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 13, 2012

Ericsson has tons of patents. Samsung can't win.

8. MartyK

Posts: 1043; Member since: Apr 11, 2012

Yeah, but cup and string don't count..hahahahah But yeah, Samsung needs to pay up!! I know Ericsson and it's legal team ( all 2 of them) will win..hahaha

6. ryq24

Posts: 872; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

if its apple suing there is some doubt if it is true or not but ericcsson suing samsung give it more credibility that samsung really infringe on ericsson patents.

29. -box-

Posts: 3991; Member since: Jan 04, 2012

Especially because they had an agreement before. C'mon samsung, you have the money, and it's for a good cause. Cough up.

9. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

so will people still say that Samsung is just defending themselves..

10. Aeires unregistered

Too bad you didn't read the comments, if you did you'd see most people think SS should just pay the fees. Or you're just trolling and did read the comments.

12. gallitoking

Posts: 4721; Member since: May 17, 2011

my comments were made to Sammy kids. whom read but have not post yet. they know who they are

15. tedkord

Posts: 17047; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

Here's a better question. Will you defend Samsung, since they're doing the same thing as Apple?

24. PapaSmurf

Posts: 10457; Member since: May 14, 2012

No reply haha.

27. networkdood

Posts: 6330; Member since: Mar 31, 2010

Ted, you know better than that...lol. G-King and his cohorts will always side with APPLE like a pirates' crew going down with the ship.

16. Aeires unregistered

So you lowered yourself to their level, nice job.

13. zekes

Posts: 230; Member since: Aug 14, 2012

Samsung needs to start playing fair and pay they been in the business longer than them.

14. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

well i think its about time Sony does wats right and get what is owed them.......even if it means going at the big guns.......time to step up Sony make em pay for what they owe you....and yes make em pay for EVERYTHING.....whether small or big

19. smallworld

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 13, 2012

What exactly do you have in mind ?

20. XPERIA-KNIGHT unregistered

hahaha i dont know man but some how i think they've been getting step on for quite some time now!

22. smallworld

Posts: 517; Member since: Jul 13, 2012

TRUE. Japanese, especially Sony, have invented/developed/codeveloped so many thing that changed our lives.

17. wendygarett unregistered

Galaxy s3 is an unlicensed handset? That sound strong word to me...

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