Samsung seeks to block U.S. imports of NVIDIA GPU chips

Samsung seeks to block U.S. imports of NVIDIA GPU chips
Back in September, NVIDIA sued Samsung and Qualcomm over certain patents related to graphics chips. At the time, NVIDIA sought to ban products from entering the U.S. that contained Qualcomm's Adreno graphics processor, ARM's Mali GPU, or Power VR's graphics design. NVIDIA claims that these GPUs contain technology that it has patented. Samsung devices were among those that NVIDIA wanted banned from import into the states.

Earlier this month, Samsung filed a countersuit, claiming that six Samsung patents were illegally used by NVIDIA. Sammy also accused the company of releasing misleading benchmark test data. The latter showed that the Tegra K1 processor outperforms the Samsung Exynos 5433 processor.

Now, Samsung is turning to the ITC, seeking to ban imports of products containing NVIDIA's GeForce GPU and Tegra SoC chips. The ban would also include the processors themselves. Samsung filed with the ITC on Friday, and this begins a long legal process that includes a number of checks and balances. Ultimately, the decision to ban a product belongs to the president.

In August 2013, the ITC recommended a U.S. import ban on the Apple iPhone 3GS, Apple iPhone 4, Apple iPad 3 and the Apple iPad 2. President Obama became the first sitting president since 1987 to veto an ITC ban recommendation. The Korean government was understandably miffed two months later when President Obama refused to veto ITC import bans on a number of obsolete Samsung devices including the Samsung Galaxy Nexus, the Galaxy S, Samsung Galaxy S II and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1.

source: ITC via Reuters

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45 Comments

1. legiloca

Posts: 1676; Member since: Nov 11, 2014

Popcorns anyone?

6. Malcolm.Merlyn

Posts: 160; Member since: Sep 28, 2014

Such fire! they must miss the court rooms desperately......

2. renz4

Posts: 319; Member since: Aug 10, 2013

so let the battle begin? anyway in another news samsung also go after another company namely Elite Group (ECS) and Biostar.

8. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

According to the source Samsung are also going after EVGA, ZOTAC, Fuhu, Mad Catz, OUYA, Wikipad, Sparkle Computer and Toradex Strange that it doesn't have many major GPU makers (only EVGA & ZOTAC), there are many more e.g. ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, PNY, Galax,... Also there's no laptop makers, e.g. Apple, HP, Dell, Acer, Lenovo,... (basically all since Nvidia dominates the laptop market) But I doubt anything will actually come from this (from both Nvidia and Samsung suits)

15. kg4icg

Posts: 83; Member since: May 18, 2008

EVGA and Zotac are major players, They also make motherboards, in the case of EVGA, high end motherboards at that.

32. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Strange that it doesn't have MANY major GPU makers There's only 2 out of 7 major player I consider ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, PNY and Galax to be the other major players

24. ojdidit84

Posts: 462; Member since: Jul 16, 2011

Well what's interesting about it is the fact that EVGA & Zotac manufacture only nVidia cards...

45. prooinlife

Posts: 1; Member since: Dec 05, 2014

ASUS, Gigabyte, MSI, PNY, Galaxy, Zotac, and all these companies DO NOT "make" GPU's. Nvidia "makes" the GPU's. They simply buy reference boards and GPU"s from Nvidia and make their own product based on the chips they buy. These companies are only board manufacturers. And they are all very good, save Zotac.

3. mayur007

Posts: 593; Member since: Apr 10, 2012

boring though if nvidia did than they deserve it

4. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Nvidia deserves to be banned... for bringing that lame Transmeta crap back from the dead!

7. Malcolm.Merlyn

Posts: 160; Member since: Sep 28, 2014

I thought you were banished for uninstalling Google Play from android devices......

38. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Yes, I was ostracized for being a political dissident... but thankfully Google is not pressing charges against me :)

5. rantao333

Posts: 346; Member since: May 21, 2013

SAMSUNG the patent troll and rotten company without any morality and pride. SAMSUNG the only company in the world facing most lawsuit of patent, something has been wrong with this compnay when everyone pinted at you, stop blindly support it u DXmb fanboys. there are price fixing sued by EU there are false marketing in taiwan SUED by various of companies,. 1st apple 2nd microsoft now nvidia

13. Iodine

Posts: 1493; Member since: Jun 19, 2014

They see themselves as "higher" than law. They think they can steal and copy anything and if someone dares to sue them for such theft, they will sue them back, even for the most ridicoulous reasons (now for example they basically sue nvidia for making a faster chip than theirs - another example of samsung's arrogance - noone can have a faster chip than we have, if they say yes it's faster, it's a lie) They will try to stretch the verdict as far as they can and finally get out after few years with minimal loses, while hapilly profiting on stolen technology.

14. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Apparently they are somewhat "higher than law" in Korea I guess still haven't released they aren't "higher than law" in the US

43. Cicero

Posts: 1137; Member since: Jan 22, 2014

Don't worry. Whatever the court will decide the US president will ban it, if it is against a US company. Local interest. We, the rest of the world, have to understand that.

17. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

While i don't support the use of patent to ban competitors products. What Iodine said is plain nonsense. Nvidia did sue Samsung first and Samsung retaliated. Same as what Apple did to them. Apple is a World Class Patent Troll and others reacted the same. Still i hope that everyone would go back to the older days where the one with the best product and marketing wins. Dream On! Sign.

21. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

would hate to go back to days before 1871 While yes we dont like patent trolls, patents in idea form, protect the inventor. Best case, guy who invented intermediate wipers and got shafted by ford. Spent his whole life fighting it and ending up winning.

23. willard12 unregistered

There are lots of companies that sue over patents and many of them haven't actually invented anything.

27. tedkord

Posts: 17410; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

But would love to go back to before software patents were allowed, and copyright was the protection used. You gave a best case scenario, but it usually doesn't play out like that. The little guy can't afford to fight the corporations who steal his invention. They can just throw pocket change at it, drag the case out for decades and bankrupt the inventor. And, with the system going to first to file, not first to invent, it's impossible.

29. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

The best case scenario was exactly what you described. He spent something like 20+yrs fighting Ford, and it did bankrupt him, but he kept going. I dont like trolls as much as the next guy, but in the end, the invention whether or not it was the same person should be transferable. Software should be protected too, after all if you create and spend years to develop something. You wouldnt want someone getting the credit with no investment in and offer it a price that you cannot compete with cause your trying to recoup the efforts. There really isnt a best case system that would appease everyone.

35. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Software are logic and Mathematics they are the languages of computers. Limit it to certain few will limit our ability to interact with them. Would you support the idea of educating the privilege few. Most of are software advances are made in the university and thru knowledge collaboration.

9. Berzerk000

Posts: 4275; Member since: Jun 26, 2011

Does this affect their desktop GPUs as well? I want to order my GTX 970 next week, don't ruin this for me Samsung!

10. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I highly doubt they desktop/laptop GPUs will get banned Because if they do ban Nvidia's desktop/laptop GPUs AMD would have a monopoly Unless they are willing to force AMD to split into two companies (i.e. no more monopoly), but that's highly unlikely The worse case would be that you have to pay an extra for your GTX 970 But I think they will both agree to withdraw their suits and sign some kind of cross licensing deal

19. tedkord

Posts: 17410; Member since: Jun 17, 2009

There'd be no monopoly, because they aren't banning every GPU nVidia produces, and nVidia would come to with workarounds and release new models. Besides which, I highly doubt the ITC will vote to ban either. Though they are both foreign companies, so at least Obama wouldn't veto either ban.

25. Ashoaib

Posts: 3297; Member since: Nov 15, 2013

yeah, Obama will only veto when it will be their beloved apple... apple is a money filled company, so money talks. Omama doesnt want to ban a company with so much high income, however Obama doesnt mind banning samsung. Baised at its best

33. vincelongman

Posts: 5723; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Actually Nvidia is an American company So Obama would probably side with them like in the Apple case

11. Settings

Posts: 2943; Member since: Jul 02, 2014

They all sue the better players to halt them impressing others. Its not even proven yet.

12. dimas

Posts: 3380; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Blood will flow all for the sake of getting US consumer's dollars. Money indeed makes the techworld go round.

16. sabbyj

Posts: 2; Member since: Feb 15, 2014

Samsung is just embarrassing itself now. Btw, Tegra K1 is better than any Samsung chip out there. Deal with it.

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