Samsung may take on Sony with its own 1000 FPS sensor in time for Galaxy S9

Samsung may take on Sony with its own 1000 FPS sensor in time for Galaxy S9
Remember when Sony announced a stacked triple-layer camera sensor that can shoot with thousand frames per second for stunning slow-motion videos? Well, these ones are already in retail devices like the Xperia XZ1 and Premium handsets that were announced not long ago. To achieve this, Sony has packaged the sensor and its circuitry together with dedicated memory module that stores the immense amount of calculation needed without taxing the main processor and slowing down the phone.

Well, not to be outdone, Samsung has come up with such an image sensor of its own, and it will reportedly us it in the next Galaxies, like the upcoming S9 flagship in 2018. Samsung's creation is also able to capture the mind-boggling thousand frames per second, but instead of stacking three layers and packaging them together, it uses two layers, then flips the package to add the DRAM module, most likely to avoid patent disputes. 

The new sensor will apparently go into mass production in November, which means there will be plenty of time to fit it into the upcoming Galaxy S9, even if Samsung is indeed readying it for earlier than usual release to face off the iPhone X, as speculated. Where does that leave the rumored dual camera on the S9, remains to be seen, but we wouldn't put it past Samsung to use the new 1000fps sensor into such a setup. Here's what such a sensor would be capable of producing in the slow-motion realm.


source: ETNews (translated)


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35 Comments

1. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Apple exclusive on 4k60fps lasted 2 days lol Now this hahahahaha

6. ibend2

Posts: 159; Member since: Mar 16, 2016

960fps on xperia is a gimmick.. It can only capture 0.182second (~7seconds of playback), and it will be tricky to activate it at the right time.. If samsung can ad much more nand flash for cache and make it 1second recording time (~40s playback) then it can be useful.. probably..

8. abdoualgeria

Posts: 928; Member since: Jul 27, 2015

Let's see what Sammy is cooking with this sensor

10. Boast_Rider

Posts: 536; Member since: Sep 14, 2017

It's much harder to do than it sounds. To give 5x the slow-motion time, they need to have 5x the amount of DRAM on the sensor, which will be a costly affair given the huge DRAM(and NAND) shortage of late. In fact, most of the rise in prices of phones this year is attributed to the rising cost of NAND and RAM, which have more than doubled since last year.

11. AlphaMale

Posts: 59; Member since: May 03, 2017

I've seen a lot of videos that prove that the super slow motion videos in Xperia is not just a gimmick and can make something that looks boring becomes more dramatic and interesting. at first it seems tricky but by the time you get used you will be able to record slow motion video at the right moment. Only people who do not have Xperia or people who do not want to learn how to use the features in the xperia that always say something negative about it.

16. Xperia14

Posts: 1208; Member since: Sep 01, 2015

I wouldn't say it's a gimmick as it can be very cool imo. I've seen some very impressing stuff alrrady. But yes, the 0.2 second time frame will make it very hard to capture what you want. I hope that Sony and Samsung can improve this in future devices.

19. pixel_ftw

Posts: 84; Member since: Jun 19, 2017

Too bad sammy girl Samsung didn't see that 960fps as gimmicky feature. They saw it as a actual selling feature for their future phones. They fact that Samsung is 1 year late in the game must be burning your jealous asses.

36. M.O.A.B

Posts: 322; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

you can read ibend2's comment one more time and you may get it through your thick skull why did he say it's gimmicky

15. Dr.Phil

Posts: 2488; Member since: Feb 14, 2011

Same could be said of the dual optical image stabilization that Samsung was touting as being first in. We could have a pissing match or we could just appreciate competition and how we are all as consumers benefiting from it.

25. mikehunta727 unregistered

https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung039s-galaxy-note8-is-not-getting-support-for-4k-60fps-video-capture Apparently the Note isn't getting 4K/60 FPS and it was just a typo. Not exactly sure how accurate this is but yeah Apple solution of using h265 for 4k60 fps is superior to 4k60 in h264

31. Lumberjack

Posts: 306; Member since: May 04, 2017

Of course... SD 835 cant do it but exynos 8895 can. They would not release 4k@60 for only one version.

33. Vyshak75

Posts: 82; Member since: Mar 03, 2016

It's because of SD835. Exynos 8895 can record 4K upto 120fps.

2. ch3mn3y

Posts: 77; Member since: Sep 17, 2017

Think that the most important part here is word "may" found in the title... If we want to guess, than Sony can make 2k fps recording! (i'm starting a rumor, i'm starting a rumor). Considering new Mirai design, which can mean new and/or dual cameras, there can be so much difference... So S9 will have more SlowMo camera than XZ Premium, but less than XZ1 Premium.

3. Myphoneisonfire

Posts: 403; Member since: Sep 05, 2016

The Sony XZ premium is by far the worst flagship phone i have ever used/purchased . Pure garbage. Everything about that phone sucked bigtime !

5. cocoy

Posts: 464; Member since: Oct 30, 2015

I doubt if you've really owned an XZ PREMIUM. It's by far a lot faster than S8/S8+ even the note 8.

14. kabiluddin

Posts: 279; Member since: Feb 28, 2015

HE never owned it. Actually he can't afford it. He is a lying trolling B*tch with multiple accounts just like ibend,tedkord, trojan_horse, jason2k13, Hallyu. Phonehex is one of his duplicate accounts. These samsung trolls like to troll sony on sony related/unrelated news.

34. Myphoneisonfire

Posts: 403; Member since: Sep 05, 2016

Kabiluddin , not everyone is poor.

26. Furkan

Posts: 552; Member since: Feb 25, 2017

Lol 0.5 sec?

35. M.O.A.B

Posts: 322; Member since: Feb 13, 2015

can you prove that it is "a lot" faster than the note 8 ? i am waiting and why do you think that it is only the speed that matters ? just because it is theoretically faster than the note 8 and the s8/s8 plus (which is not true) makes it a better phone ???

17. Xperia14

Posts: 1208; Member since: Sep 01, 2015

Can you write a small review? I'd love to hear your thoughts about the XZp.

22. mimicryXD

Posts: 175; Member since: Apr 03, 2015

dont give ur BS comments. just watch earlier the front camera comparison of xz1 vs note 8 and theres no competition, xz1 murdered and destroyed note 8 front cam and thats a SHAME. you can clearly see it in the channel of phone battles.

4. mimicryXD

Posts: 175; Member since: Apr 03, 2015

they copy glass backing, water and dust resistant and now this super slow mo and said to be 1000 fps.. i will not surprise if they also copy the 3D creator of SONY.. look what sony had done, SONY dont copy OIS instead improve the EIS and even beat Note 8 and V30 in VIDEO STABILIZATION.. and some note, phone battles on their youtube channel made a comparison video XZ1 vs note 8 front cam and the verdict is NOT EVEN A CLOSE OR THERES NO COMPETITION AT ALL! XZ1 MURDERED NOTE 8 IN FRONT CAMERA COMPARISON and thats a SHAME for Samsung.

7. ibend2

Posts: 159; Member since: Mar 16, 2016

Right.. Cry more...

9. Jason2k13

Posts: 1471; Member since: Mar 28, 2013

talking about front camera in CAPS? yeah I don't think anybody will take you seriously lol

12. cmdacos

Posts: 4331; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

It would be a shame if more than 5 people gave a crap about Sony phones...

13. Chuck007

Posts: 1416; Member since: Mar 02, 2014

Sure bro regardless of what you say Sony can't optimise their camera sensors for crap. I was hoping the XZ1 will blow me away (I actually wanted to buy it before I got to test the phone) but guess what, their camera software felt clunky and the camera can't take detailed shots under less than optimal light. Focus speeds always lagged behond my 9 month old iPhone 7 Plus... never mind the Galaxy S8/Note 8.

23. mimicryXD

Posts: 175; Member since: Apr 03, 2015

im talking about front camera. you can watch it on phonebattles on youtube and im even shock how note 8 perform in front cam comparison feels likes its not a flagship.

18. trojan_horse

Posts: 5868; Member since: May 06, 2016

A thousand frames per second! Can't wait already.

20. ryq24

Posts: 876; Member since: Oct 17, 2011

Sony should start worrying.

21. dimas

Posts: 3420; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

So it's goodbye sony sensor for galaxy s9 and in the future?

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