Samsung may abandon KNOX and leave Android security to Google (or not)

Samsung may abandon KNOX and leave Android security to Google (or not)
One of the bigger surprises during Google I/O last month was the announcement that Samsung had allowed parts of its KNOX security software to be integrated into Android directly. Samsung made it sound like it would continue to support KNOX with features that would stay Samsung-only, but a new rumor is saying Samsung is killing off KNOX completely.

The report comes from Forbes, which, while reputable, is not really known for breaking tech news, so it's hard to say how good the source is. But, if the report is true, Samsung has decided to abandon KNOX. The reasoning given is a combination of cost cutting (Samsung has had a 24% drop in operating profit this past quarter) and the fact that KNOX simply never gained much traction. The report claims that KNOX has a market share of under 2%, despite Samsung being on the verge of getting a deal with the U.S. Department of Defense. We're curious about that stat, because it feels like it is being confused with the recent report saying that of KNOX devices, only 2% actually bother using the secure container, which is different from market share. 

If true, it is definitely a surprising move by Samsung, and it leaves Google to create the security software to bring Android into the enterprise space more. Google is already going to be focusing more on security in Android L, but it's unclear how much those improvements will be added to the older versions of Android. 

*Update*It seems that the whole report might be innacurate. A Samsung spokesperson reached out to us with this statement:

So, it appears that KNOX isn't going anywhere. 

source: Forbes



1. Deadeye37

Posts: 291; Member since: Jan 25, 2011

Good. Knox always seemed to get into the way when rooting the phone.

11. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

not good if it gets integrated into the root for stopping that

14. CoastCity

Posts: 257; Member since: Mar 07, 2014

There goes Knox and so many bells and trumpets...

15. CoastCity

Posts: 257; Member since: Mar 07, 2014

*Update, bells and trumpets aren't go anywhere

2. TheGenius

Posts: 339; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

Maybe they let them have it so they can develop it and as android gets better.. samsung salea should increase. ! Also.. they would have struck a deal and might have got a huge cut in the royalties in google apps.!

4. tacarat

Posts: 854; Member since: Apr 22, 2013

No royalties, i'm sure, but making android more secure and getting Google to pay for it is good for Samsung. It also means they can let Google take the heat if there are any future issues.

7. TheGenius

Posts: 339; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

But they invested a lot in knox. Right? It also helped them differentiate them from other android oems for security. I dont think they'll be donating it so easily!

8. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

Samsung ang Google has a cross licensing agreement. Good that Samsung is focusing on hardware and let Google take care of software. If knox is Android standard rather than Samsung standard than businesses will be more willing to adopt it. Next will be multi windows so every brands can benefit as a whole. Look at it this way they already got the whole freaking OS for free.

10. TheGenius

Posts: 339; Member since: Mar 06, 2014

Hmm.. right.! No. Let multi window be samsung exclusive please. If everything is merged into os itself .. what will oems do? And also.. it will ruin custom roms.!

13. joey_sfb

Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012

I only want technology to progress as fast as possible. Combining research and resources will help that.

3. Furbal unregistered

Good Knox is an abortion of a service that needs to be able to be removed without damaging the phone

5. jellmoo

Posts: 2562; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Knox is utterly, utterly terrible. If there is to be a big push into the enterprise sector by Android, it's going to need a much better approach than what Samsung is trying to do. In the age of BYOD, this really needs to be done at the OS/Google level.

6. 0xFFFF

Posts: 3806; Member since: Apr 16, 2014

Samsung -- just make your enterprise security stuff optional for the rest of us. Go back to the old days of phones that were easy to root and easy for developers to do fun stuff with.

9. xfire99

Posts: 1205; Member since: Mar 14, 2012

Cut the crap that KNOX triggered will VOID warranty bullsh*t by Samsungs service and peoples might see it useful. Peoples love to root theirs phones and that is Android beautiness and if u take out the sweetness, than peoples will revolt. Understand what peoples wants and stop deny that peoples wants.

12. elitewolverine

Posts: 5192; Member since: Oct 28, 2013

I would garner only 1/10 root for the us market as their main everyday device that is still under warranty. Of everyone I see daily, not one even care about it. I had to deny two warranties because of a root brick

16. anasnazeer

Posts: 16; Member since: Jul 11, 2014

Since S3 was the last Samsung phone I will ever have. It doesn't matter now.

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