Samsung and LG also confirm they do not slow down phones with older batteries

Two of the biggest Android phone makers - Samsung and LG - have just confirmed that they do not slow down phones with older batteries, a tactic that Apple has admitted it uses on some iPhones with aging batteries to prevent them from unexpected shutdowns.

In emails to PhoneArena the companies denied ever reducing the speed of the processor in its phones and LG explicitly committed it "never will" do slow down its phones.

Here are the official comments by the two companies:

Just yesterday, HTC and Motorola also confirmed that they are not slowing down phones with aging batteries.

We have also reached out to Google and will update you when we get an official response.

Meanwhile, Apple has apologized for slowing down users iPhones without their knowledge and now offers a new battery replacement program with the price of the replacement reduced by $50, down to $29. The iPhone 6 and later are eligible, but the company will only replace those batteries that have have aged to the point where a replacement is needed. Currently, nobody knows exactly when this happens. Apple officially says that an iPhone battery loses a significant amount of its capacity after 500 charge cycles, but this information is hard to access. Apple will issue an update in early 2018 that will make information about battery health easily available on the iPhone. 



1. Peacetoall unregistered

I'm sure apple does this kind of shady tactics with macbook line too. somebody really needs to investigate it quickly.

16. Rishi17

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 22, 2016

LG & Samsung don't slow their phones, instead they just use cheap components in the motherboard, so it would just die directly after 2years, just google any of their flagship name with "suddenly died, boot loop" & you'll see.

17. Peacetoall unregistered

bootLoop was a manufacturing defect. but what you're seeing with apple is that they intentionally did this to cripple their users old iphone inorder to force them to buy newer models.

25. Rishi17

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 22, 2016

Absolutely & for that apple should be held accountable, but saying boot loop is a manufacturing defect makes it OK? It's even worst, Nand of those mobiles dies completely & once the warranty is over they won't even replace it, where as its clearly manufacturing defect. You think that's OK?

65. snowgator

Posts: 3621; Member since: Jan 19, 2011

Depends on if it can be proven that these Android manufacturers or Google itself did it with intent. Defects in electronics happen, which is why more advanced is not really "better". The more advanced the software needs to be, the more likely there will be a real life hard fault that shows up regardless of testing in a sterile environment. If this boot loop fault you are saying is common (never heard of it so I trust you) is a result of a software crash that is bad code over time than no, it is nowhere near as bad as Apple has done. Apple has been outright caught being shady. If this boot loop is planted with an update or something to force you to get a new phone, than it is way worse than this battery problem. But, my guess is that it is a software problem that is unavoidable when dealing with the sheer number of devices that Android is.

67. dazed1

Posts: 806; Member since: Jul 28, 2015

Stop sreading BS, Samsung does not have bootloop issues, its LG.

43. sgodsell

Posts: 7567; Member since: Mar 16, 2013

People at Apple HQ. We have a battery problem. Hmm, is their a way we can fix this problem without costing too much? Well we could slow the SoC down to the point where it doesn't drain too much from the battery. Besides most users browse the web, use some social media, listen to music, watch a few videos. So the vast majority of the population will never know what has happened to their iPhone. This could also delay any repairs until after their warranty expires. Then the ownus is on the customer, instead of us. Then we can charge the customer for our mistakes. It's a win, win for our investors and shareholders. Because the most important thing to Apple is profit.

69. applesnapple93

Posts: 335; Member since: Jan 06, 2016

bootloop was a qualcomm snapdragon 808 and 810 problem not LG

18. Peacetoall unregistered

My Mom samsung s4 running on android lollipop is still going strong without any issues. By the way do you know same apple uses components from samsung and Lg to power their iphones and macbook.

45. Cicero

Posts: 1148; Member since: Jan 22, 2014

I gave my old S4 to one of my friend around 2 yrs ago. It is now at the 3-rd battery but is doing the job done without no stress.

21. wando77

Posts: 1168; Member since: Aug 23, 2012

Funny because my eldest daughter has a galaxy note 3 and my youngest has a galaxy S3 mini and both are going strong.

24. Rishi17

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 22, 2016

Tell that to million others whose s4, s5, note 4 died out of nowhere, just because 90%are working properly doesn't make up for the manufacturing defect for which they won't do anything, atleast apple extended period of free battery exchange for upto 2-3years, just so you know I don't like iPhone, but that doesn't mean I won't appreciate them when they do something good, I have had almost all Samsung flagships since S4 & guess what, all died, just note 4 is still alive, but I have to keep running it's CPU all the time or it dies & please don't even talk about LG, crappiest manufacturer ever, I Won't keep the note 8 for more than a year, won't make same mistake again. Only mobile that has lasted long for me is HTC M8,over 3years now, whatever they do, quality of their flagships is unmatched(except M9 ofcourse)

39. cmdacos

Posts: 4319; Member since: Nov 01, 2016

iPhones have higher failure rates so they are no better at limiting the flaws.

49. clandestine9

Posts: 1; Member since: Dec 29, 2017

Everyone i know with an iPhone has had to have it replaced within 18 months of buying ... most people i know get their iPhone replace at least once within the warranty period. iPhone absolutely are a manufactured like crap, hence why they have AppleCare+ ... they deliberately profit off of being crappy. Its no mistake that Apple has the best warranty.... It deliberate... make the phone as cheap as possible so that we can replace it 4 times and still profit, then sell them a $150 warranty making it 5 replacements and we still profit.

68. dazed1

Posts: 806; Member since: Jul 28, 2015

"Tell that to million others whose s4, s5, note 4 died out of nowhere" Millions? hahahahah what a bunch of BS.

53. cncrim

Posts: 1590; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Hey can you give us a definition of “intentional” and “defect”? Before you start to argue.

66. inthedark

Posts: 1; Member since: Dec 30, 2017

“Samsung Electronics Co.,LTD.: We do not reduce CPU performance through software updates over the lifecycles of the phone” Reduce CPU performance through software updates... CPU. software updates. So if its done without software update it is legit? If it was there from the beginning. Or if it was done on hardware level? And the whole case is not about slowing down CPU at all, but reducing the number of tasks given to concurrently to CPU. Apple did not slow down the CPU. It just reduced the number of jobs to prevent burst peaks.

2. Peacetoall unregistered

SlowGate# . I hope every users who are still using older iphones sue the apple for the fraud they have committed. we android and windows users have always accused apple for intentionally crippling their iphones and mac guess what it turned out to be true.

47. MrShazam

Posts: 987; Member since: Jun 22, 2017

Literally this. And when such accusations were brought up, you'd be seeing the sheeple replying with "tinfoil hat" comments and what not, despite present evidence out there:

3. BillyBoy

Posts: 58; Member since: Jul 01, 2013

But they do it with poor updates. Go figure out

5. Peacetoall unregistered

sorry sweetie but that is just a human error while apple does it intentionally. btw every ios updates is crippled with critical bugs and security issue

33. path45th

Posts: 407; Member since: Sep 11, 2016

Samsung’s chips are only good for a few months. No future proof at all. A two year old Samsung flagship is not a lot fastee than an entry level phone. You have to keep killing Background apps and free memory every 10 minutes to maintain an acceptable level of performance. A two years old iPhone is still super fast. I don’t like what Apple did but it clearly shows that older iPhones are so good that without a deliberate slowdown people would have no good reason to update.

46. Cicero

Posts: 1148; Member since: Jan 22, 2014

For sure you are talking just to don't get sleepy. I used an S4 for around 3 years and an S7 edge for almost 2 years and still using it. I still have an S Advance in the house which is used like an security camera. It is around 5 years old. Go to sleep now and rest just do not say stupis things.

54. cncrim

Posts: 1590; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Beeeebeeee have you use latest android flag ship to criticizes it?

6. Kuroki

Posts: 183; Member since: Nov 24, 2013

Samsung doesn't need to slow down their phones because they are already slow as hell. I didn't even install many apps on it and I had it replaced once on july with a different unit. I can't wait to change my phone back to a Sony(if ever they up their game). I owned this helltrap S8 since May and i can't stand it.

9. Peacetoall unregistered

you're trying too hard shill

11. BuffaloSouce unregistered

Apple is making good use of that empty plot of land in that tiny brain of yours

19. Peacetoall unregistered

apple is f**ked this time. not even shamless isheep like you can save them.

27. Rishi17

Posts: 98; Member since: Sep 22, 2016

On the contrary, they are gonna come up with some sort of solution, like they always do & will keep outselling every other manufacturer, but that's good for us customers in the end, they keep other manufacturers on their toes, keeping the competition alive , without competition it'll just be like those Symbian days, when everyone had to buy Nokia

28. Back_from_beyond

Posts: 1471; Member since: Sep 04, 2015

Their solution is to make the iPhone user pay $29 to get their battery replaced after a year or so of use. They knew all to well that the batteries were no good, instead of coming out with it they tried to hide it by slowing down phones with decaying batteries. For the iPads they use batteries that can go up to 1000 charge cycles before deteriorating significantly. Yet for iPhones, by far their biggest selling devices with a large profit margin they opt to use inferior batteries. That's not at all suspicious? And why don't issues like this occur on any Android phone? It's clear Apple purposely choose this course of action and now they expect the consumer to pay for a temporary fix. Now I chose a very round number for this but here's the math: 500,000,000 iPhones x $29 = $14,500,000,000 That's why there is no fix and there won't be a fix. If there hadn't been such a massive backlash over the whole thing they would've kept the price at $79 for battery replacement, a potential $39,5billion. If various cases go to court and a judge rules that Apple needs to offer replacement batteries for free, expect Apple stock to drop 5-10%, not to mention the long term effects it could have on their sales of new devices. Consumer confidence in Apple will plummet.

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