Samsung ATIV Q launch delayed by patent infringement issues?

Samsung ATIV Q launch delayed by patent infringement issues?
The Samsung ATIV Q is an amazing piece of hardware. It is fast, functional, versatile, and we had quite a lot of fun while giving it the review treatment. Yet even though it has been two months since the hybrid was announced, those who want to buy one are still stuck throwing money at their computer's screen. That's because the Samsung ATIV Q isn't yet available for purchase, and a recent report by Korean media sheds some light on what might be causing the hold-up.

Word has it that the Samsung ATIV Q can't be launched as it infringes on patents related to running two operating systems on the same device. For those who need a refresher, the slate can not only runs both Windows 8 and Android 4.2, but also lets the user switch instantly back and forth between them without the need for a reboot. Reportedly, the issue is so serious that Samsung may end up cancelling the ATIV Q release. That might explain why the Samsung ATIV Q is nowhere to be found on the company's web page for ATIV-branded products.

Of course, the report might be inaccurate, so take what you just read with a pinch of salt. We'll update you as soon as we learn more on the matter.

source: Naver (Translated) via G 4 Games

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ATIV Q
  • Display 13.3" 3200 x 1800 pixels
  • Processor Intel Core i5, Dual-core, 2600 MHz
  • Storage 128 GB

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29 Comments

1. itsdeepak4u2000

Posts: 3718; Member since: Nov 03, 2012

But nice hybrid and nice switchable option. Please Sammy do not cancel.

7. SuperAndroidEvo

Posts: 4888; Member since: Apr 15, 2011

Yeah that would be a real shame if they did cancel this sexy machine! +1

25. vincelongman

Posts: 5720; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Agreed, Also I thought the ATIV Q runs Android in a virtual machine, which is very different to dual boot.

2. Atlas

Posts: 158; Member since: Apr 15, 2012

Who owns the patent?

15. flynfree

Posts: 374; Member since: Jun 09, 2013

I guess, apple, their best and greedy patent enemy!

3. pwnarena

Posts: 1129; Member since: Feb 15, 2013

that explains why no other company has done it yet. samsung dared and is now facing the hurdle. hopefully, it gets away with it. we certainly want computers that can boot to operating systems.

4. SlimSoulja86

Posts: 660; Member since: Nov 03, 2011

Who owns this patent though? Half finished article.

5. crazymonkey05

Posts: 189; Member since: Nov 20, 2012

The only company I know that would file the patent is Asus because the have the dual booting transformer pad booting android and windows

16. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

I find it highly improbable that someone would be awarded a patent to use same hardware for 2 different OS. Myself and countless others have been doing it for years/decades. You know company VMware would go out of business just for a single patent, and you won't have anything like Hyper-V.

6. deewinc

Posts: 455; Member since: Feb 21, 2013

Patent for running two operating systems on a device? What kind of patent is that!!!

24. vincelongman

Posts: 5720; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Its almost as bad as the patents on rounded rectangles, wedge shaped laptops and slide to unlock

8. Reluctant_Human

Posts: 913; Member since: Jun 28, 2012

That's complete bull. Giving the consumer the option of having both OS would be awesome.

9. CX3NT3_713

Posts: 2359; Member since: Apr 18, 2011

C'mon. ..it doesn't look anything like an ipAd....

10. XperiaFanZone

Posts: 2278; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

I was happy about the Q for no reason.

11. Wiki_jaan

Posts: 704; Member since: Jun 24, 2012

samsung can still make it available by seprating launch of ativ q ..... one with windows and other with android

12. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1354; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

If I'm not mistaken Microsoft owns that Patent. Dual booting windows 95 & windows XP if you recall. Microsoft does not want Windows and Android on the same box because if it's a windows Box you must use windows applications for your task and not Android apps which can be for free or a small fee of 0.99 to 50.00. MS office ranges from 89.00, for student edition, all the way to 300.00 plus for enterprise. Think if business got hold of this - they would migrate to Google docs since it is cheaper.

13. gazmatic

Posts: 812; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

quite literally the dumbest argument ever sputtered by someone whose user name has phone and critic in it what is stopping me from using google docs RIGHT NOW on my windows 8 machine? nothing absolutely nothing whats stopping me from dual booting android RIGHT NOW in my windows 8 machine? absolutely nothing if you really think that MS is blocking this because of google docs then you've never heard of openoffice my system is quadbooted with win8, kali linuz, android 4.3 and meego try to think beyond MS and google

18. PhoneCritic

Posts: 1354; Member since: Oct 05, 2011

23. gazmatic

Posts: 812; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

a zdnet fud article from 2011 that was proven wrong a forbes article from a totally unbiased author (heavy sarcasm) and another article from 2011 for something that MS implemented in win8 called hybrid shut down way to reinforce your points... good job

20. ibap

Posts: 867; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

gazmatic - that sounds absolutely cool. Can you point us to more info on how you're doing that?

21. gazmatic

Posts: 812; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

first you have to download the images... it is best to have windows installed first otherwised your entire boot config will be deleted install your version of linux next on a partition... (be careful, you can wipe your hard drive and delete your data) while in linux make another partition and install either android or meego or just stay with windows and linux i use partition assistant to manage my partitions.... if you have any experience with linux this will help a bunch it also helps to have a 4gb usb drive... use linux live usb creator or win32disk imager to make your boot usb it is important to have a machine that can boot from usb.... here are some links... http://sdrv.ms/19PtMz2 http://android-x86.googlecode.com/files/android-x86-4.3-20130725.iso http://distrowatch.com/ http://android.appstorm.net/how-to/rooting-and-roms/how-to-install-android-on-your-pc/ http://wiki.meego.com/Installation_of_MeeGo_on_notebook

22. gazmatic

Posts: 812; Member since: Sep 06, 2012

first you have to download the images... it is best to have windows installed first otherwise your entire boot config will be deleted install your version of linux next on a partition... (be careful, you can wipe your hard drive and delete your data) while in linux make another partition and install either android or meego or just stay with windows and linux i use partition assistant to manage my partitions.... if you have any experience with linux this will help a bunch it also helps to have a 4gb usb drive... use linux live usb creator or win32disk imager to make your boot usb it is important to have a machine that can boot from usb.... here are some links... http://sdrv.ms/19PtMz2 http://android-x86.googlecode.com/files/android-x86-4.3-20130725.iso http://distrowatch.com/ http://android.appstorm.net/how-to/rooting-and-roms/how-to-install-android-on-your-pc/ http://wiki.meego.com/Installation_of_MeeGo_on_notebook

14. cool8man

Posts: 3; Member since: Sep 21, 2012

I'll pay them extra if they remove Android for me. This device doesn't dual boot, you cannot boot into Android, it just runs Android in a window on Windows 8.

17. warren24

Posts: 19; Member since: Apr 02, 2013

I'm going to ask for someone to edit this article, the source. Naver is korean portal, much like yahoo. The artice is from ZD Net Korea, Naver simply republisehd it.

19. ibap

Posts: 867; Member since: Sep 09, 2009

Easy answer - release the device with Windows 8 and 'leak' the Android add-on.

26. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

According to some guy from the Samsung store, it is because Microsoft doesn't want stupid people thinking that the Surface can run every Android app like the Ativ Q can. Apparently the solution is going to be that the Ativ Q does not launch with Android preloaded and it has to be sideloaded. I know there is a chance this guy doesn't know s**t and made it up but it sounds reasonable enough. If I was Microsoft, I wouldn't want Android muddying the waters anymore than the differences between RT and PRO already does. However, if Samsung does drop the Ativ Q just to appease Microsoft, Microsoft better give them something back like help them screw Apple over or something. It does make sense though. I don't think Samsung is allowed to just change Windows 8

27. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

Having Android apps deeply integrated in the Windows 8 UI is probably breaking some of Microsoft's licensing rules.

28. LM711

Posts: 1; Member since: Aug 29, 2013

Yea I think the 2 operating systems is cool .... but not really needed. Id rather it just be a windows 8 and have them up the RAM to 8GB and a 256 SSD then it would really be high end and a lot more useful

29. Bariq0

Posts: 1; Member since: Sep 06, 2013

I don't give a slight S**t about patents. I will say this as a consumer who wants this tablet really bad: "Shut up and take my money!"

30. aicragleon

Posts: 4; Member since: Dec 30, 2013

I am not sure what the author is talking about. This product is on the Samsung website here: http: / / w w w . samsung . com/ph/ativ2013/ativq . html Of course URL links are not allowed so just remove the spaces from the URL above.

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