Rumor says Google might help Samsung in optimizing TouchWiz

Rumor says Google might help Samsung in optimizing TouchWiz
For the most part, the newest iteration of TouchWiz is snappier, more streamlined, and way more intuitive than its predecessors. Its gracing the company's 2015 high-end portfolio and we liked that it is Samsung's best effort in the UI department yet. In the performance department, the latest iteration of the UI has also scored numerous improvements and it's rather hard to deny these. It still has some issues though, mainly in the memory management.

There is room for further improvement, and if the hottest new rumor is to be believed, Samsung could be aided by no other than Google itself in the task of optimizing TouchWiz even more. The rumor mill has it that Google will help Samsung on a under-the-hood level, which will be beneficial not only to Sammy's userbase, but to Android's public image as well. A "win-win" situation for both tech giants.

The reason behind this alleged collaboration seems to be rather clear: TouchWiz UI is by far the most popular variation of Android worldwide and can be found on many an Android device worldwide, which means that the Average Joe and Plain Jane associate Android with Samsung's TouchWiz skin. Thus, having a better-performing and optimized TouchWiz will help Android in getting an even better image, in theory at least.

As a reminder, in early 2014, both reached an agreement that would "lead to deeper collaboration on research and development of current and future projects" and the demise of Samsung's Magazine UX in order to promote Google's Play services. 

In an ideal world, we will be treated to a TouchWiz firmware that combines the snappy performance of stock Android and the signature bells and whistles of TouchWiz itself. Only time will tell if the latter would become reality.


source: Samsung Viet via SamMobile

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67 Comments

60. Nabil111

Posts: 105; Member since: Apr 14, 2014

My last phone was a Galaxy S4, and before that a Moto Electrify, so I'm used to the bloated skins, but it felt reasonable to call it a skin as I moved back and forth to my Nexus 7. I got a OnePlus One a year ago and my dad got a Galaxy S6 a few months later and moving between the two was like night and day. They managed to make the settings menu nearly unusable for me compared to how it was on the GS4. While clever, I never really found any use to a large majority of the Samsung Touchwiz apps or features. The eye tracking thing never worked for me, S-voice was a joke, PageBuddy was a pain....all except Multiwindow. That was the sole reason to run Touchwiz for me on my GS4(other than the locked bootloader) but on newer Galaxies, I can't imagine rooting them and making all apps able to use Multiwindow is as easy as it once was. I just think for the value added, it would behoove Samsung to just run stock Android with a special launcher and do all the apps from the Samsung App store or Play Store. Special camera apk that uses some hooks into the camera drivers to do special tricks? Cool, added value. Terrible note taking app that can't be removed cause its a "system app"? No thanks.

59. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

The only thing this probably does is give the Samsung haters less ammo. Because we all know no matter how fast and smooth touch wiz is, idiots like techandbeers will say it lags.

58. Awalker

Posts: 1988; Member since: Aug 15, 2013

Why don't they do what Motorola has done, stock with added features? They could also make Touchwiz a removable custom launcher. I don't want a phone that comes with the kitchen sink. I want a clean slate that I can customize myself. That's why I buy stock Android devices.

64. iushnt

Posts: 3191; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

If Samsung went like Motorola, they may win you but would probably lose many others. Are you even familiar regarding POD and brand conditioning? When Horlicks changed their fonts in its package, the sales dropped.

53. TechieXP1969

Posts: 14967; Member since: Sep 25, 2013

TouchWiz is never going to look boring and stale like Vanilla Android. But having a snappier more pleasing experience with some of the benefits of vanilla Android, are certainly welcomed. Samsung = Android. Samsung is the largest producer of Android devices both phone and tablet, and it is in Google's best interest to help not only Samsung; but really every OEM. But yes, Samsung first being the sales king. This will also put a pacifier in the mouth of all the TouchWiz haters who can't admit that even though TouchWiz isn't perfect, it brings revolutionary features to Android, that otherwise would not be possible, do to the lack of support API. Splitscreen, smart stay, smart pause, and more are all linked to TouchWiz which allowed their devices to support such capabilities when no one else could. No one can deny TW sets Samsung phones part from others and have contributed to his popularity.

49. bubbadoes

Posts: 1225; Member since: May 03, 2012

what an insult!

47. Vanliewn

Posts: 65; Member since: Oct 03, 2015

I really hope this is a thing

25. Odeira

Posts: 300; Member since: Jun 29, 2012

Probably Google will "nudge" Samsung to remove Multi Window. I mean, devices withOUT it have better significantly better RAM management, so to improve it it has to be completely axed, right?

24. RandyPhill

Posts: 2; Member since: Nov 25, 2015

Don't remove the multi user mode this time Samsung.

20. Taters

Posts: 6474; Member since: Jan 28, 2013

Meddling bosses and owners, in this case partner, never works. Touch wiz runs fantastic as is. Don't need any intrusions from Google. Seems like the GS7 is hitting all the wrong notes like the GS5 did.

17. FluffyBled unregistered

I am still expecting a Samsung made Nexus 6 (Dreaming :S)!

19. combatmedic870

Posts: 987; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

I'd rather a Samsung made Nexus 5P. Imagine an S6 with no hardware buttons with front facing speakers, a SD 820, 4gb ram, USB-C, wireless charging, IR. I'd pay 6-700 for it. Yes

21. Ronnnie

Posts: 18; Member since: Nov 25, 2015

That's probably be more like what the 2016 nexus will be like. :)

22. FluffyBled unregistered

Rather the Exynos IMHO ... but well ... let's see what the future holds! And also google is very happy with LG making their Nexus 5, I doubt they would switch to another OEM for it!

27. combatmedic870

Posts: 987; Member since: Sep 02, 2015

I doubt you'll ever see a Exynos in a dev device. The SD's are ALOT more dev friendly. I really wish they would use someone else besides LG. Either Sony, or Samsung IMO.

35. cncrim

Posts: 1590; Member since: Aug 15, 2011

Then you will kiss good buy 500 price tag nor 600.

16. jellmoo

Posts: 2714; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

This is a great move by both parties. If they can manage to marry the feature set of TW with some of the smoothness of stock Android, it would be a serious win-win for consumers.

12. Plume-Veil

Posts: 174; Member since: Nov 19, 2015

Samsung you need to add more Ram for it to function smoothly. The more apps and features you activate, the more it will take up Ram, leaving no Ram for the phone function properly. The Touchwiz and Android are a heavy platform for the Cpu to push. Android was made for desktop, not for a phone. How stupid a mobile Cpu running on a desktop. Stupid.

14. jellmoo

Posts: 2714; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

No. No they don't. 3-4GB of RAM is plenty, even on TW devices. Adding more RAM wouldn't do much if anything when it comes to making the device "smoother".

37. Plume-Veil

Posts: 174; Member since: Nov 19, 2015

e an untouched (not de-bloated and not after you kill a bunch of background processes) S5 and look at the amount of available memory at any given time, its typically less than 500MB, likely it is closer to 300MB...Thats out of 2GB!! Thats insane. Then look at the amount of installed system apps (not user apps), there is roughly 300+ apps installed on a S5 or N4 out of the box with the vast majority of them being touchwiz apps and also being redundant. For example, a touchwiz keyboard and an AOSP keyboard, a touchwiz calendar and an AOSP calendar etc...There is a duplicate of every AOSP app and function on Galaxy devices. Then we have the Samsung cloud services constantly running in the background, checking your location, syncing your data, scanning for nearby devices, looking for updates etc...All the while there is also the AOSP account apps doing the same thing. Finally the logging, Samsung logs everything and sends that data back to Samsung constantly, where you are, your app usage, your online usage, error reports, crash reports etc.... No its not just "popular" to say touchwiz is bloated, its absolutely true. Touchwiz is unbelievably bloated to the point it cripples performance. --- I went outside once...the UI was horrible

45. jellmoo

Posts: 2714; Member since: Oct 31, 2011

Touchwiz *is* bloated, no disagreement there, I'm merely saying that more RAM isn't the solution. It's a band aid that treats the symptoms, not the problem, and doesn't treat it effectively.

63. iushnt

Posts: 3191; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

Do you know how RAM works? Unused RAM is wasted RAM. It's better the more it gets used. The less it's empty the faster the OS works. I disagree to many of your posts. HOWEVER, u r not the target market of Note or S series anymore

8. Ronnnie

Posts: 18; Member since: Nov 25, 2015

Samsung makes nice phones and have slowly been improving their software. Still Touchwiz is why I won't buy another Samsung phone. I had the Note 4 and the amount of lag present on that phone should never exist on a flagship device. Hopefully this means Samsung will finally get their act together and produce quality version of Android to go with their awesome hardware.

10. Hallyu

Posts: 790; Member since: Jul 21, 2015

Touchwiz is the better and more stable UI among non-stocked devices. It might not be pretty smooth like vanila from Google, but it's definitely better overall.

11. Wiencon

Posts: 2278; Member since: Aug 06, 2014

I dunno, you can get really every Touchwiz feature on rooted AOSP. I know some people aren't convinced towards rooting but it's a win win beetween smoothness and richness

26. tokuzumi

Posts: 2036; Member since: Aug 27, 2009

Rooted roms almost always have way more bugs and stability issues than stock roms. They run smoother overall, but there are always more force closes, memory leaks, and features that just don't work together with other features. Only rarely will a group put thought into their roms (such as CM, ParanoidAndroid, and AOKP). Plus, most devs just throw features in to have features. Certain features are great such as enabling tethering, and separating notification and ringtone volumes. But stock roms are usually much more stable, due to more extensive testing. We can thank the carriers for that.

62. iushnt

Posts: 3191; Member since: Feb 06, 2013

I have rooted. But the TouchWiz quality features aren't there. Also, when many features r added the battery gets worse than TouchWiz.

5. MichiGo

Posts: 173; Member since: Sep 09, 2014

StockWhiz?

4. Feanor

Posts: 1452; Member since: Jun 20, 2012

Uh? Wouldn't there be a competition law to prohibit this? It's like Google releasing a free operating system and then favourizes only one partner?

6. vincelongman

Posts: 5843; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

Nope Android is still going to be free for all other OEMs Google and Samsung probably just made a deal where they will help each other out e.g. Google helps Samsung optimize TouchWiz Samsung helps Google implement some TouchWiz features into AOSP Other OEMs could probably make similar deals if they wanted

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