Samsung may kill the Magazine UX and promote Play services as part of a deal with Google
posted by Michael H. / Jan 29, 2014, 3:08 PM
Re/code, and says that the talks between Samsung and Google may have led to "a huge change, a sea change" in the relationship between the two companies. There have been constant rumors of friction between the two, and rumors that Samsung has been planning to break away from Android completely with Tizen. But, the new deal seems to have brought the sides much closer together and not just in patent licensing.The report comes from
Supposedly, the patent deal is just the first part of a wide range of agreements between Samsung and Google; and, one such agreement may be for Samsung to not only kill off the Magazine UX, which effectively hid Android and looked like something more at home on a Windows machine, but Samsung may also have agreed to promote Google's Play content stores rather than Samsung's own Apps store and Media Hub app. It does seem like Samsung will still be using the TouchWiz UI, but the Magazine UX will need to be modified or removed completely.
Those close to the situation say Google is exerting more control over how Samsung is presenting its Android handsets, although it is currently unclear what Google has promised to Samsung as part of this trade-off. The theory is that Google is trying to gain more control in order to fight back against the wave of non-Google Android devices coming from regions like China, Russia, and India. According to ABI, 25% of Android devices shipped in Q4 of 2013 didn't include Google Play services.
Of course, although we usually credit Google's plans to push the majority of changes through Google Apps and Play services rather than the Android system, this last bit of information is likely also a big reason why Google has put more effort into the closed source Play layer rather than the open source Android system.
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Let's see what Samsung can do With the S5 definitely my next phone or the Z2.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 3:19 PM 4
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Ominous portents indeed... The Samsung-Google dynamic is probably the most interesting story in tech right now, to me anyway.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 3:21 PM 4
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I have a Theory about this. Lets suppose Google is working on 64-bit android (5.0) while on the same time Samsung is working on a 64-bit processor (Exynos 6), then Motorola and Tizen where standing in the way. So my guess the Galaxy S5 will be some kind of Galaxy Nexus 2 and they have to work together for the sake of Android domination + Mobile World domination. It would be a perfect plan! While on the same time i think that Samsung wouldn't throw the magazine interface away. I think it will distinguish the next Galaxy from the next Nexus (which will be essentially the same) think of the next nexus as a Galaxy S5 Google Edition.
posted on Jan 30, 2014, 6:23 AM 0
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Smart move Google knowing Samsung can be a major threat to Android and its services
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 3:30 PM 10
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Samsung is not a threat to Android or its services. Samsung needs Google more than Google needs Samsung.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 3:51 PM 2
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While you have some point, the moment the Samsung moves from android a lot of users that still don't have a clue about googles services will realize that the amount of apps have severly decreased.Only then understanding what Google services means to Android and Galaxy phones!
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 4:40 PM 0
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Before Samsung how was droid fairing? Samsung outsells all droids by no small margin. It is because of this that people have made apps for it. As to the other who posted that people leaving google would feel the app crunch. Perhaps, though only in crappy games or crap apps. Search battery in google play store, or task manager, or anti virus, let me know how many 'must need' apps soak up the list. Or how many photo sharing apps, or messaging apps... Most users have a handful of apps with power users counting past 50-100+. Out of the majority the apps that matter most is, does their emails work, can they play music and does it just work. Some have apps like bible, magazine. And while the choice is vast the idea that they would 'be hurt' is simply not true. Bank apps? Meh my ie10 on a phone handles all my banking websites without the need of an app. Though an app may 'help' I am not crying for one. Many users do fine without google, just ask apple, or wp. What Samsung has done for google is huge. The Magazine UX keeps them away from a tiled win os look, one that will become more and more popular as pc's come with the look. It will happen. Google just wants it on their terms and not Samsung's.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 7:35 PM 2
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Samsung ain't threat for Android, it's actually one of the reasons why Android is popular.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 4:16 PM 1
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Man I had to laugh at your comment. What you just said is exactly why Samsung is a treat to android. Dude, Samsung is damn near a monopoly when it comes to android. If they were to walk away and start doing tizen phones, android would crash on their @$$. Who would pick up the slack for Android?
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 6:42 PM 2
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if Samsung leaves android now it will be over for them... htc,Sony,Lenovo,LG will happily come and take Samsung share.. even nokia could not survive that which had a much stronger and supportive fan base than Samsung..
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 7:34 PM 1
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Samsung needs Google more than Google needs Samsung. Tizen is not samsung's first attempt to try without Android, Bada was a big flop. Whatever samsung achieved in Smartphone market is with Android only. Today, Samsung is having Android only for its success but Google is having full army
posted on Jan 30, 2014, 4:20 AM 0
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Samsung should buy the group behind Nova Launcher and have them revamp Touchwiz.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 3:35 PM 1
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here are a few apps copied by Samsung cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/lolsamsung.jpg
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 3:55 PM 0
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Well thank you Google for killing just about the best idea Samsung ever had for a tablet.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 3:56 PM 4
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Well it appears the Magazine UX is the victim of colossal corporational battles. Google just sold Motorola's HW division to Lenovo for $3Bil and signed a massive multi-year licencing deal with Samsung. So it appears Googy had to let Motorola go for Sammy to let Tizen go, and so must the Magazine UI which looks pretty darn good, damn it!
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 4:35 PM 5
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Google lose a lot of money on Motorola. They can't be all in when it comes to handset business. By selling Motorola, Samsung and the rest of the OEM will fall in line and acknowledge their Handset Alliance Leadership as Google. By minimizing internal Android Alliance conflict, Google will have more resources to treat with the upcoming threat from Apple.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 6:04 PM 0
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Thank You VERY MUCH Google! I know for some the Magazine UI may be a great thing, but Samsung isn't very good with updates. TouchWhiz is bad enough, but adding yet another element for their phones and tables would be horrible for those wanting Android 4.5 or 5. I really wish every OEM would just follow Motorola's lead and put all their crap in Google Play so I can pick and chose wha I want on my phone.
posted on Jan 29, 2014, 4:41 PM 0
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