Rumor: LG's has a second Nuclun chip; it's faster than the Exynos 7420 SoC, specs and benchmarks show

Rumor: LG's has a second Nuclun chip; it's faster than the Exynos 7420 SoC, specs and benchmarks show
Aiming to get to the level of Samsung, Apple, and Huawei, LG has also been making its baby steps on the chipset scene, aiming to design its own smartphone chipset. Its NUCLUN chip barely made it outside South Korea as it was allegedly overheating; subsequently, rumors about another LG-made chipset surfaced, claiming that LG is aiming at Qualcomm's Snapdragon 810. 

A new rumor just hit us, claiming that LG is preparing a second generation of the NUCLUN chipset. This time around, the rumor mill has it that the NUCLUN 2 will be gunning for Samsung's top-tier Exynos 7420 chipset, which can be found on the Galaxy S6, S6 edge, S6 edge+, and Note5 (it's also rumored that the high-end Meizu MX5 Pro might score it). 

Some specs of the second-gen NUCLUN were reportedly leaked, reportedly revealing that the chipset will be an octa-core one, with four Cortex-A72 ones running at 2.1GHz and another four humming at 1.5GHz all working in concert under the big.LITTLE architecture. It's also claimed that LG will cooperate with TSMC on the development of the 2nd NUCLUN, which will reportedly be based on the chipset maker's 16nm manufacturing technology.  

Apart from some of the alleged specs, certain rumored Geekbench benchmark scores are also tied with the NUCLUN. According to them, the chipset has scored a Geekbench score of 5392 points in multi-threaded mode and 1796 points in single-threaded mode. This puts it ahead of the Exynos 7420 SoC on the Galaxy S6, which has scored 4970 and 1486 points in multi- and single-threaded modes, respectively. Wow.

As usual, such rumors can be easily fabricated, so take this with a certain amount of salt. Until we got hold on more credible leaks and information, we won't hold our breath for this one.


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40 Comments

1. Nathan_ingx

Posts: 4769; Member since: Mar 07, 2012

Well, Qualcomm won't certainly be happy knowing most manufacturers are making their own chips now and will soon be taking care of their own devices. Do I smell 810 burning??

3. King_bilo

Posts: 115; Member since: May 20, 2015

Eggs for breakfast on my htc

23. spin9

Posts: 310; Member since: May 31, 2014

no bacon?

38. cheetah2k

Posts: 2271; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

Hmmmmmmmmmmm bacon!

6. dimas

Posts: 3382; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

I want to see qualcomm make their own phone series that listen to what the consumers want just like what motorola do. If people complain about lost of sd card and bigger battery in samsung, they jot it down then create their own identity in the market.

13. vincelongman

Posts: 5724; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

This is great More competition is always welcome IMO Especially after the 810 failure Qualcomm's two largest SoC buyers are now making their own This is going to force Qualcomm to really try their hardest to innovate again (finally since the Snapdragon S3 and S4 days) Hopefully soon LG start making their own custom cores like Qualcomm and Samsung

32. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Samsung are not custom cores they use Arm stock core btw.. Same for LG and most others. Sure its a custom built SOC but with non custom part. Qualcomm failed because they used non custom part ( stock arm core ) on the SD810 and also used a bad build in 20 nm and the crappy big little architecture thats has a big issue with voltage and overheat.. Samsung S6 edge overheat too just less thanks to 14 nm build.. SD820 come

37. vincelongman

Posts: 5724; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

I was referring to Samsung's M1 custom cores (aka Mongoose) Also Qualcomm failed due to their inexperience with big.LITTLE Samsung made a 5433 with 20nm and 4x A57s + 4x A53s, which didn't overheat

43. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Sounds like you try to justify Qcom's failure. The 20 Nm Exynos 5433 wasn't such a failure, its biglittle arch is good compared to "crappy" biglittle inside Snapdragon 810. Also no issues with voltages and stock A57 cores for E5433. The SD820 again seems to be slower than stock A72 SoC, I don't even mention Samsung's Mongoose.

39. cheetah2k

Posts: 2271; Member since: Jan 16, 2011

Not surprising to see LG focusing on CPU tech now. Having to settle for the 808 was a major disappointment for everyone wanting the LG G4. Sub-par performance and massive spikes of lag due to throttling make the G4 a POS.... Qualcomm screwed so many OEM's this year. So its time the OEM's screwed Qualcomm too.

14. rd_nest

Posts: 1656; Member since: Jun 06, 2010

18. vincelongman

Posts: 5724; Member since: Feb 10, 2013

The iPhone 6S Plushttp://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/2036715 The iPhone 6Shttp://browser.primatelabs.com/geekbench3/3202808 JK it was a modified iPad Air 2 and a modified iPhone 4S

19. FoneAddict

Posts: 263; Member since: Jul 05, 2011

Qualcomm deserve everything they get for releasing a CPU that simply wasn't fit for purpose. If the 820 experiences similar problems then it's RIP Qualcomm.

31. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

All i smell is more propaganda. Qualcomm fail 1 time on a SOC and they are doomed. But other SOC maker failled time and time again and they are the best? Morons.

2. TheGunnyPT

Posts: 252; Member since: Feb 12, 2015

Oh look, another OEM manages to beat Qualcomm at it's own game... This are great news thou! Always good to see some competition flowing on the SoC market that was dominated by some many years by the same company. Hoping for a Exynos/Nuclun/Snapdragon/Mediatek competition. Also, kudos to LG for coming back with Nuclun ;)

11. Kruze

Posts: 1285; Member since: Dec 30, 2014

Don't forget Kirin/Tegra/Intel too.

15. vuyonc

Posts: 1091; Member since: Feb 24, 2014

Except the SD820/Mongoose/Helio X30 will stomp on this chipset in 2016. Nuclun will make a decent midranger though. As nice as it would be, I doubt LG can go FinFET, use many Mali GPU cores or implement any in-house components at the moment.

16. Ordinary

Posts: 2454; Member since: Apr 23, 2015

I highly doubt that sd820 will stomp this if we use leaks from a month ago.

34. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Leak did not include any benchmark or precision on the CPU side. As for GPU yeah the SD 820 will stomp this.

44. alex3run

Posts: 715; Member since: May 18, 2014

Highly doubt that crappy Qcom GPU which was always beaten by Mali and PowerVR will stomp them.

4. dimas

Posts: 3382; Member since: Jul 22, 2014

Rumor is so salty qualcomm is feeling the itch on their throat. They better make future snapdragons better and efficient or they will become the next htc.

5. iWin_Droid

Posts: 76; Member since: Jan 22, 2015

I'm getting a hard on by the thought of 8 Cortex A72 churning out powah!

7. Zomer

Posts: 361; Member since: May 31, 2013

This chip is planned for late "16, it will be mid-range by then.

8. phonehome

Posts: 812; Member since: Dec 19, 2014

LG really stood out with higher-end feature phones such as the VX8300 and EnV, then later with (not-so)smartphones like the Voyager. Was certainly impressed with those. Still waiting for then to break out with that 'must have' smartphone. Maybe this Nuclun chip will make that happen. And if they are smart, they will further try to capitalize on what current 'Android King' Samsung has gotten rid of (removable batteries).

9. FluffyBled unregistered

Ofc it's faster ... it uses A72 cores! I am really hoping samsung comes up with the galaxy S7 in december or so! That way we'll see the new beast exynos with A72 cores aswell! Even though, if everyone would use custom cores instead of basic ARM ones, there would be some competition!

12. TylerGrunter

Posts: 1544; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

It may be case that the next generation of SoC for Samsung would use a custom core instead of A72. The leaked benchmarks are really impressive if they come to be real: Single-core test: 2,136 points Multi-core test: 7,497 pointshttp://wccftech.com/mongoose-soc-from-samsung-shows-dominating-benchmark-results/#ixzz3j4Pqs4dH

17. FluffyBled unregistered

Seen these speculations ... if they turn out to be true, other chip makers will step up their game as well till we reach a point where we can literally not use our full processing power!

35. marorun

Posts: 5029; Member since: Mar 30, 2015

Agreed and Qualcomm is getting back with it.

10. Shocky unregistered

Scores seem right for Cortex A72, more vaporware ftw. Of course SoC's currently in development and testing should be faster than current hardware.

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