Report: Apple pulls the plug on Samsung as battery provider for the Apple iPad
posted by Alan F. / Nov 23, 2012, 12:55 PM
The obviously strained relationship between the two tech titans is making it harder for Samsung to remain an important supplier to Apple. Despite having been denied by Samsung, recently there was speculation that the Korean firm raised its prices for chips it supplies to Apple by 20%. In addition, there have been various rumors about Apple turning to TSMC for its chips instead of Samsung. Apple also has been rumored to be replacing Samsung for displays.
gearing up for their second patent suit in U.S. District Court, not scheduled to start until March 2014, and there is a hearing set for December 6th that covers motions relating to the first trial which resulted in a $1.05 billion jury verdict in favor of Apple. Recently, the chief of Samsung's mobile division, J.K. Shin, told reporters in Korea that without Samsung's wireless patents, there is no Apple iPhone. And while Apple CEO Tim Cook continues to praise Samsung as being an important partner, there is no love lost between the two firms.
By no longer providing Apple with the "power" needed to run its tablet and laptops, we wonder if this is more than a symbolic gesture on Sammy's part and if it will hasten the end of the strange relationship between the two firms. Doesn't it seem strange to anyone that Apple relies on Samsung to produce some of the very products that Apple accuses Samsung of copying?
source: ChinaBusinessNews via TechCrunch
Posts: 484; Member since: Jan 15, 2012
It seems strange, but as CEOs have a better view on the commercial situation so there is gonna be a bunchload of good reasons why these two are working together. In the recent months trough it seems the two giants are serious about competing with each other with all those Apple lawsuits and aggressive Samsung marketing. Personally, i support neither Apple nor Samsung here. The best position is that Google takes: less focus on marketing, more on technology itself.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 12:59 PM 2
Posts: 1236; Member since: Sep 26, 2012
Yeah but what this 'estranged relationship' has done is that consmers are suffering because of it....Sammy supplies awesome parts to Apple so if Sammy stops will Apple products be as good as they're now? secondly Apple shares tech plans to produce parts for themselves which often inspire manufacturers to make something of their own by tweaking the original....so without Apple pushing for better tech stuff will Sammy put that much of an effort to make innovative stuff? The way I see it...this ends good for nobody Apple, Sammy and WE!
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 3:24 PM 2
Posts: 5993; Member since: Dec 22, 2010
Other than parts where Sammy is the exclusive supplier, Apple has 2 or more suppliers in any iToy. There is no way to know who is supplying the internals before purchase. If you choose to buy an iToy, you are buying the iToy, not the display by X company. X company may supply the display in the iToy you purchase, but that is Apple's call. Ultimately, the market will drive innovation. Do you think Apple added a Notification function in iOS because it would be nice to have? No, the Notification function was added because the market demanded it. Markets and competition drive innovation. At least in capitalist economies.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 4:22 PM 6
Couldn't agree more Droid_X_Doug... Apple cannot be in bed with its competitors. If Apple and Samsung are now the biggest markers of smartphones, it's stupid for Apple to be going to their competitor and paying them money to make parts for Apple. It would be like Ford going to GM to make engines. It's the same reason Apple had to get out of bed with Google. Apple won't switch companies lightly either. They wouldn't go with a new battery maker without being sure they can get the same life out of their products or more. Apple Maps was a huge flop and I doubt they want a repeat. But just like Droid_X_Doug, you don't really know the inner workings of your iDevice. Some folks who post on this site didn't know that LG and Sharp have taken over the screens on the iPad from earlier this year.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 7:02 PM 3
Posts: 1412; Member since: Sep 29, 2012
When Sammy stop supplying the parts for what you call the itoy, Then you will know who is NOT supplying those "internals"... The itoy will NOT be that, what it is TODAY!!! Samsung TOLD them to find another battery supplier, not the other way around!!! Samsung supplies the important parts of the itoys "internals", without Sammy it wont be the same itoy. Get out of bed with her Sammy!
posted on Nov 24, 2012, 5:04 PM 1
Posts: 598; Member since: May 02, 2012
Phenom, I must ask, and I'm being serious, not trying to start any flame wars or anything: What tech has Apple produced lately that has pushed the market? They do make a good product for some people, and their marketing is second to none, but honestly, what tech have they truly produced that pushes the boundaries of technology? The way I see it, Android evolves much faster than iOS. The iPad continues to be tops in tablets, but Android tablets are catching up quickly, and Windows 8 tablets appear to be poised to take some high end marketshare as well. Google continues to push Android forward quickly, and with things as innovative as Project Glass, Google seems to me to be pushing innovation among OEMs much faster these days than Apple. Also, Apple designs the shape, look, and functionality of their products, but over 90% of their products are made with other companies' technology. LG and Sharp displays come to mind, Samsung processors and batteries as well. From my point of view, Apple hasn't seriously dropped anything that changed the game on technology since the iPhone 3G or the iPad. Since then, we've only seen incremental upgrades to those items. Again I ask that this be read as a legit discussion starter, not an attempt to start a fanboy flame war. I'd personally just like to see all these companies gtfo of the courtrooms and focus on making the awesome stuff they are capable of.
posted on Nov 24, 2012, 8:53 AM 2
Posts: 510; Member since: Mar 16, 2011
I applaud Samsung for this move. Apple has financially benefitted from Samsung for years and it's pretty shameful that apple forgot what side it's bread is bittered on. Differeance is Samsung does it's own thing processor, battery, camera's and on and on. Apple needs other companies to exist in this space. Piss on apple
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 6:43 PM 7
Other way around sir...Samsung has profited from Apple because Apple is Samsung's largest client (or was before Apple started changing providers). This isn't Apple stabbing Samsung in the back. These are two competitors who shouldn't be relying on each other.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 7:04 PM 6
Posts: 510; Member since: Mar 16, 2011
Exactly they shouldn't be relying on eachother. It was apple that needed Samsung in the first place. Every iphone made in the last three years has Samsung processor, Samsung camera optics, and Samsung batteries. None of Samsung products have anything apple in them what so ever never has and never will. Apple and it's socalled iconic iphone really should be a Samsung device.
posted on Nov 25, 2012, 8:10 AM 1
Posts: 598; Member since: May 02, 2012
Apple and Samsung currently share the most dysfunctional symbiotic relationship I've ever seen lol. One hand of each company is shaking a hand of the other, while each has their free hand pointing a loaded gun at each other's head...... As hard as these companies compete with each other, I think the split between the two was inevitable.
posted on Nov 24, 2012, 8:55 AM 1
Posts: 94; Member since: Nov 21, 2012
My take on all of this, if Apple was truly as innovative as it goes on to be by the jacked up prices on everything it pushes out on the market, they wouldn't be wasting time throwing lawsuits left and right. Apple has displayed arrogance not only in American soil, but in foreign land as well, most noticeable one as of late, the court ruling in the u.k. I have yet to see an Apple product that is made or composed by all Apple parts and technology. The hers of isheep should get their facts straight before pointing a finger, ifnot they'll come off as ignorant people. Also, Samsung is number one in seeks in the states, numbers don't lie unless your head is up your ass and you can't see it :p
posted on Nov 24, 2012, 8:47 PM 2
Yes I personally find it ridiculous how apple accuses Samsung for copying their devices when Samsung is the one providing a lot of the pieces. Personally I'm glad Samsung is providing less for Apple. They should learn to rely on themselves for once and stop accusing all these other companies that are supplying them. Many people look down on Samsung for the plastic, but can't deny that their technology is no doubt high-end.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 1:01 PM 20
Posts: 2610; Member since: Jan 25, 2009
It's really not strange at all. I'm not saying I support all the lawsuits, but I don't think any of them relate to batteries, processors, or displays. Completely unrelated
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 3:47 PM 3
Posts: 298; Member since: Mar 17, 2012
Here the end. So don't get surprised if you get a cheap chinese iPhone next time in your hand!
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 1:20 PM 4
Posts: 581; Member since: Jul 07, 2012
Actually, a lot of Chinese OEMs are making decent quality handsets which aren't KIRF's for a change.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 1:39 PM 3
Posts: 6794; Member since: Mar 29, 2012
I have a lot of bad experience with cheaply made china battery, good luck to apple. I think apple wants to stick with Sammy on this one because apple themselve know that battery is crucial and they don't want to screw with that.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 6:15 PM 2
Posts: 2828; Member since: Aug 11, 2012
Apple should setup a battery manufacturing plant in China :)
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 1:30 PM 0
Be smarter to just buy an established company.
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 2:16 PM 1
Posts: 30879; Member since: Feb 05, 2011
Apple should sever ties, if this partnership is no longer amicable. All this bad blood between them, which personally I think could be worked out is now at a boiling point. This is gonna have a negative effect on the tech world, not just apple, and sammys users. I wish all this could b resolved in a friendly way, but sadly as huge fan of both of these companies I don't think it can
posted on Nov 23, 2012, 2:34 PM 1
Send a warning to post author
Send a warning to Selected user.
The user has 0 warnings currently.
Next warning will result in ban!
Ban user and delete all posts
Message to PhoneArena moderator (optional):