Apple and Samsung submit their final post-trial motions to Judge Koh before the December 6th hearing

Apple and Samsung submit their final post-trial motions to Judge Koh before the December 6th hearing
If you have been following the latest in the Samsung-Apple patent battle as closely as you watch the latest LiLo mishap on TMZ, you know that on December 6th, Judge Lucy Koh will be entertaining post-trial motions from both tech giants. Both firms submitted the final versions of their pleadings to the court on Friday with a 12 midnight deadline staring them both in the face. We already know that Samsung is asking Judge Koh to toss the original verdict and order a new trial based on the peculiar actions of one Velvin Hogan.

Hogan ended up as jury foreman, a position he no doubt cherished and strove for, if you believe Samsung's turn of events. The Korean manufacturer is trying to convince the judge that Hogan had a vendetta against the company based on its relation to Hogan's former employer, Seagate Technology. The burden of proof is on Samsung to convince the judge that not only did the elderly inventor lie to the court through some omissions, but that his misconduct led to the verdict in favor of Apple. Considering that Hogan did put himself in the role of foreman and also taught the jury how the patent process works (albeit using incorrect legal theory), it would seem that he did have a big hand in determining the verdict although we will leave it to Judge Koh to make that determination.

Apple seeks to have a portion of the $1.05 billion awarded to the company tripled, which can be done when a defendant is deemed to have wilfully infringed on a patent. More importantly to Samsung, Apple seeks permanent injunctions on the devices that infringed on Apple patents according to the jury. Samsung's response that Apple had allegedly licensed its multitouch OS to the competition led to a response from Apple that such licenses were rarely given and should not stand in the way of a permanent injunction.

The recent move by the patent office to declare Apple's '381 rubber-banding patent invalid has led Samsung to note that its actions to use '381 should no longer be considered a willful infringement since it was reasonable to expect the patent to be declared. According to FOSS Patents, this was the only patent that "Apple asserted" during the trial. A ruling by the judge in Sammy's favor would mean that the damage award would not be subject to being tripled.

We're sure the legal team for both sides are polishing up their legal knowledge, washing their legal briefs, and will be ready for whatever Judge Koh throws at them on December 6th.

source: FOSSPatents

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1. nwright94 unregistered

Lets just hope this all ends. It's gone on long enough.

12. AnTuTu

Posts: 1620; Member since: Oct 14, 2012

Lets hope Sammy wins this case like I said couple of weeks back "Truth always wins"...!!

2. blingblingthing

Posts: 978; Member since: Oct 23, 2012

Go Sammy Sammy go.

3. BadAssAbe

Posts: 508; Member since: Apr 22, 2011

What kind jurors made up the jury? Blackberry, winPhone and dumb phone users Too dumb to try an android phone or Too poor to afford a iPhone or worse, both

4. nwright94 unregistered

I'm sorry but intelligence doesn't determine which phone you should use. It's personal preference. My grandmother uses an android phone but has no clue about anything tech. Most of my professors use iPhones, and they're hopefully not dumb. You shouldn't stereotype like that. Yes, people who aren't tech savvy would usually gravitate towards the iPhone as those who are well versed in tech would be drawn toward android but not every person who uses android is smart and not every person who uses an iPhone is rich.

5. BadAssAbe

Posts: 508; Member since: Apr 22, 2011

HAHA You call iPhone owners dumb, troll success! :-) ;-) =-O I never said iPhone owners were dumb, i gave them a praise

6. sarb009

Posts: 322; Member since: Jun 15, 2011

Shooo troll

7. nwright94 unregistered

I never called them dumb too. I said they weren't tech savvy. That doesn't determine intelligence.

15. Hemlocke unregistered

That stereotype is just moronic. Go to XDA and ask some of the top devs what their daily driver phone is...more than you would like to hear will tell you "iPhone."

10. pkiran1996

Posts: 166; Member since: Oct 22, 2011

@BadAssAbe you're the troll. He never said iPhone users are dumb. Either you misunderstood it or you can't read. You're also narrow-minded and ignorant for calling BlackBerry and Windows Phone users dumb.

8. ramonleonjr62

Posts: 48; Member since: Oct 17, 2012


13. wizzardtech

Posts: 59; Member since: Mar 12, 2012

maybe the Jurors are smokin crack too or maybe dont know what patent is all about. Hope this time truth will prevail and put a stop on this greedy and evil cra**le

16. ronjr123

Posts: 88; Member since: Feb 16, 2012

Regardless of the outcome in December, they party that feels they have lost will appeal. This is not over by any means. Each side has too much invested. Both monetary and emotionally. You just get the feeling that it is personal now.

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