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Qualcomm exec: Nokia Lumia 2520 performance better than Surface 2 “in every area”

Qualcomm exec: Nokia Lumia 2520 performance better than Surface 2 “in every area”
The Nokia Lumia 2520 and the Microsoft Surface 2 have both been fresh off the conveyor belt for less than a month, but a sort of a battle has already taken place, in at least one Qualcomm exec's head anyway. That's despite the fact that this is somewhat of an awkward situation for both Nokia and Microsoft, seeing as the latter is about to gulp up the former in order to become one.

Consumer electronics, and tablets in particular, however, are complex products to build, meaning that manufacturers such as Nokia have to rely on a number of partners. One such partner is Raj Talluri, SVP of product management for Qualcomm's application processors, and he appears intent on pointing out the mistake Microsoft made by going with NVIDIA's Tegra 4 chipset, instead of a mighty Snapdragon 800, for example. Commenting for CNET, Talluri says:

The performance on [the Lumia 2520] is brilliant. It's really at the next level. It's not even really a contest [compared to Surface 2]... In every area, it's much bigger, faster, and lower power.”

Qualcomm product manager for tablets, Stephen Horton, explains that the reason Microsoft went with NVIDA for the Surface 2 has got to do with timing:

"Let's put it this way, they're buying the company that did [the Lumia 2520] device. They clearly are very excited about it."

While execs sticking up for their own products sure isn't a newsworthy matter, one could get the idea that Qualcomm are a little ticked off with Microsoft. One could definitely imagine that the silicon slinger is a little worried of perhaps losing Nokia as a client to NVDIA, once the merger between the two companies is complete, though this is purely speculation. 

Qualcomm has definitely gotten a fair bit more vocal lately, which is not necessarily a bad thing. That being said, let's just hope that the two execs aren't talking out of turn, and we won't have a rerun of the Apple 64-bit processors fiasco.

source: CNET

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posted on 28 Oct 2013, 10:23 10

1. Miracles (Posts: 560; Member since: 31 Aug 2013)

Great another Qualcomm exec looking for a demotion. But still Nokia rocks!

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 10:27

3. PhoneCritic (Posts: 965; Member since: 05 Oct 2011)

Funny, Here he is actually standing up for the company and not bad mouthing a tech that Qualcomm would also do (32 bit to 64bit). If he gets reassign for this then somebody at the top level of management is a bit schizophrenic.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 20:07 2

11. akki20892 (Posts: 3902; Member since: 04 Feb 2013)

That's why i'm fan of Nokia. They makes brilliant and stunning hardwares.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 10:25 1

2. cezarepc (Posts: 718; Member since: 23 Nov 2012)

Well this time the exec is correct, surely at least performance-wise.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 10:32 1

4. TheLolGuy (Posts: 483; Member since: 05 Mar 2013)

Thems fightin' words!

But really, I hope for the sake of the industry that nVidia can do something great with the Tegra 6 (when their actual custom cores make their debut, like the Krait core by Qualcomm and the Swift core by Apple) because honestly, benchmarks and all sorts of tests seem to indicate that this is more or less the truth.

As long as they're using stock core designs provided by ARM, they won't really be beating others by more than a few percent by certain tiny optimizations they can tweak without breaking agreements made with ARM to use their designs. As it is, the Tegra 4 and probably the Tegra 5 will be using the same exact cores as the Exynos chips, only except Samsung is working on improving their big.LITTLE configuration while nVIdia is opting for a single tiny core. Only their mobile GPU work is their premier, differentiating feature that will help them sell their chips.

2015 is the year to look out for, at least for the ones who prefer nVidia products. It'll also bring their own implementation of unified memory like AMD is doing with it's HSA foundation initiative. AMD doesn't seem to want to go into smartphone SoCs, but are pushing for tablet/convertibles, it's going to be hectic to see yet another player stepping into the fray.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 11:15 5

5. GrapeEyes (Posts: 248; Member since: 01 Sep 2013)

Nokia should have put the windows 8.1 version on the 2520 and installed a better camera i.e. 20mp +

I am so getting the Lumia 1520!!!!

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 11:35 4

6. Napalm_3nema (Posts: 2236; Member since: 14 Jun 2013)

Win 8.1, yes, but the camera is fine, since it's a tablet. If your tablet is used to shoot more than a few pics a year, you're doing it wrong.

I was in Seattle, last week, and I can't tell you how many times I saw tourists, most with smartphones in holsters (Ugh!), leaving said smartphone holstered to take pics with iPads (That was the only tablet I saw, both Mini and full-sized). It made me want to slap them.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 12:03 1

9. GrapeEyes (Posts: 248; Member since: 01 Sep 2013)

Do remember when Samsung introduced the Note and everyone laughed. Nokia can put a brillant camera on a tablet just because they can.

It will be the only tablet with an awesome camera and watch everyone try and follow.


posted on 28 Oct 2013, 11:48 1

7. mottykels (Posts: 387; Member since: 15 May 2013)

i hope nokia will do a full windows 8.1

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 11:59

8. speckledapple (Posts: 892; Member since: 29 Sep 2011)

trash talking eh.

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 15:36 1

10. Credo (Posts: 749; Member since: 19 Apr 2012)

Love the perfomance of the Surface 2, is MUCH faster then the Surface 1 and i just love it :)

posted on 28 Oct 2013, 20:30

12. renz4 (Posts: 319; Member since: 10 Aug 2013)

Qualcomm simply butthurt because their much better soc are not being used in microsoft flagship device and it happen not once but twice. Being accepted as the soc of choice by microsoft flagship product give the impression your soc are the best choice for similar product (in this case windows RT product). Not that i'm bias towards one or another to be fair nvidia also like to hype their product like they did with tegra 3.

Nvidia might not have the best soc but software side they were quite formidable. I still remember on computex 2012 nvidia were the only company have device running windows RT on the show. Performance wise tegra 4 are not much slower than snapdragon 800 but their experience on the software side could be the reason why microsoft were choosing nvidia tegra4 instead of much faster snapdragon 800.

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